Balta1701

Well more ABs than that are available when Eloy, Engel, Leury, or Abreu get hurt too. While I see your point, that depth would likely still be used heavily.

Some 2020 alt site rule?

It will be interesting to see. One thing pointed out in the thread where we acquired him was that all his peripherals were worse in 2021 except his HR rate was through the roof. So, you could make a case that he looked like a guy at risk of decline in the near future, possibly immediately if the HR rate dropped. That makes it harder to say his time with the White Sox was bad luck.

It would have cost you…Carlos Rodon. His agent is not a guy willing to give up free agent years without a big return. He would not have given up 2 years of FA for $1 million more.

The one thing this roster has room for is lefties. Frankly at this point you make the room for them.

Presumably that means he’s retiring and is trying to see if he can get by without a surgery if he’s not throwing? But doesn’t want to give up the health coverage if he does have to do it?

Did Mendick burn an option in 2019?

If the DH position was a true platoon then Sheets would get more time there while Vaughn would play OF as needed, but work it however you prefer their names interchange.

For here I didn’t want to offer a guess, just see how things shaped up. I did find it interesting that the bench seems to shape up better if they bring in an infielder rather than an outfielder. Standing pat though is almost intolerably bad, that roster wouldn’t survive spring training.

I think this is a useful exercise. The White Sox acquire a RF and a 2B. The bench is Vaughn, Leury, Engel. Romy is in the minors but comes up any time there is an IL trip, and breaks camp with the team because of Anderson’s suspension. The White Sox acquire a RF but no 2b. The bench is Vaughn, Engel, Romy. Is is unclear what happens if they need another IF - Burger probably breaks camp with the team, but maybe Yolbert is the primary guy if there is a long term infield injury? The White Sox acquire a 2b but no RF. The bench is Leury, Romy, Engel. Generally this is tolerable, Burger probably breaks camp with the team due to Anderson’s suspension. Bench is pretty flexible but not clear who comes up if there is a long term injury other than Burger. The White Sox acquire neither. The bench is Romy, Engel, and Burger I guess? Not clear who the backup SS is for the first games during Anderson’s suspension. Moncada to 2b, Burger in at 3b probably, with the survivor of Romy/Leury to SS. Anyone gets hurt and team will immediately be looking to sign someone off the scrap heap. All of these assume 1 bench spot goes to a catcher not discussed here. Anything I missed?

Happy deadline day!

Leury I’m assuming?

You are simply fooling yourself about Craig Kimbrel’s present value. The league has already told you this, that’s why he is still on the white Sox. If you want a Phillies IF straight up for him, I would bet they would do Gregorius. Changing that requires changing the market, either by a team missing all the other options or by the CBA.

Literally no one cares about this. I care about the fact that the White Sox currently don't have a 2b candidate on their roster and the fact that they acquired an expensive 8th inning guy who was utterly terrible and then guaranteed him $16 million they can't spend elsewhere, including on that 2b hole. I don't care one iota that they don't have their 1st round pick any more and it isn't a psychological defeat to not have him because he's a first round pick.

If the White Sox were truly getting bunches of offers for him, even bad ones that still moved his salary, they would have done it. That's just unavoidable at this point, too much has happened around the league. The White Sox are hoping that the CBA changes things and creates offers - which it might. If a minimum payroll existed, then I'd totally take his entire salary if I was Pittsburgh. If a DH appeared in the NL, you might be able to pull off Kimbrel + Burger for Segura.

But...the White Sox aren't getting back a "valuable starting piece for him".

Let's just face it, the Phillies aren't doing any version of that deal that the White Sox are ok with. Either the White Sox need to add in extra players or pay an awful lot of the salary.

Technically, the only guy they could sign which would make me think "Ok they probably won't go for Leury" is Chris Taylor.

Dee-licious.

Historically he's unlikely to keep up that performance - not because he's not good enough to, but because he also hits the IL a lot. So maybe you're paying $4.25/WAR, which still isnt' bad.

Lol that will do it.

Yeah I'd agree with this. Even if the White Sox sign a 2b and an RF, Leury has a good chance of starting opening day because what are the odds that 8 positions stay healthy throughout the spring?

He appears to have 2 full years of control remaining, which means for a decent player he won't come as cheap as you want. It doesn't involve Vaughn or Crochet, but it would likely involve a package of players going back since our system doesn't have that many strong players available. That said...good fit if they could make it work.

Which is exactly why having Leury, Romy, and even more available is important. Because the odds of this team having a good number of injuries next year remain high.

Honestly, if they strike out on everything, Leury and Romy both on the roster is still better than only Romy.