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QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 01:32 PM) I think we might see an Anderson/MacDougal trade for Ellis or Anderson for J. Barfield. My goodness, those deals would be so bad I'd have to Barfield.

Thome with a dinger also. Hitting Jiminez pretty hard early. Thome getting locked in.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 01:25 PM) What about Ozuna to leadoff and Alexi to fill the Ozuna role? Ozuna is a bad option as a leadoff hitter because he's so impatient. He's too aggressive and doesn't take pitches. He's also pretty one-sided, although his numbers in 06 didn't show it for the last 3 years against right handed pitching he's hit .268 with a .315 OBP. Overall for the last 3 years his OBP is .329, and that's way too low for a solid leadoff hitter on a power team.

I'm starting to wonder if Ramirez isn't being penciled in for the leadoff spot.

QUOTE(JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 01:19 PM) I was thinking somewhere along the lines of.... Anderson/Owens/Quentin (one of them) along with Richar, Masset, and Broadway. I think the only way to construct a deal that might draw legit interest from them out of those people is to use Quentin + more, and I think that Quentin is talented enough that he's way too much to give up for Roberts. It's worth remembering that the Orioles really have no need for a CF. Between Nick Markakis and Adam Jones, they have a solid young OF core, but still have one slot on the side. Anderson's value to a team is in no small part due to his CF defense, and the Orioles don't need that. And Owens won't have value for a team until he can show that he can put up a .350+ OBP and pull together 60-70 steals in a season.

Masset on the mound, already given up 1 run in the first, somehow relating to a walk and a passed ball by Hall. Ramirez, CF OC, SS Thome, DH Konerko, 1B Swisher, LF Fields, 3b Anderson, RF Ozuna, 2b Hall, C. Can read a lot of interesting stuff into that lineup if you want.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 01:07 PM) Offering Quentin as the centerpiece for a Roberts deal would be the opposite of idiotic. That'd be a perfect fit for this team. It won't happen, but Balta, damn sometimes you confuse me. Dropping a guy when his value is low because of injury who has put up great numbers throughout the minors and is under our control for little salary for the next 5 years in exchange for a more expensive guy named in the Mitchell report who is under our control for less time and who blocks 2 more of our young guys who could very easily handle that position today at a vastly lower cost...that's not the kind of move this franchise needs to be making.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 01:05 PM) That's true, but I agree it would be an idiotic move by us so I'm hoping that's not on the table. Hopefully the message from this move is..."Danny, Alexei, it's your shot, you've earned it". I think they made this move because of Ramirez's performance this spring. Hopefully we don't lock him in at 2nd base long term and block Richar while leaving us searching for the SS that he could be, but based on their recent statements that seems like a logical conclusion

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 01:03 PM) If the Cubs don't have the horses to trade for Roberts, we sure as hell don't. And I wasn't aware that the claimer would have to pay Uribe's salary. In that case, I would think he will clear unless there is one team out there dumber than I'd expect (I can't even imagine Baltimore is that dumb). If we offered up Quentin, he might well be more valuable than anything the Cubs have remaining that they could offer. And it would be an idiotic move on the Sox part.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 12:56 PM) As long as there are members of the 2005 team remaining, this problem will exist. Sox fans simple overrate anybody in connection with that team, from KW to Ozzie to the players, and nobody is more overrated perhaps from that squad that Joe Crede. Do you consider Mark Buehrle, Bobby Jenks, and Paul Konerko to be overrated?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 01:00 PM) Maybe. The only bullets we have to trade is Josh Fields and Carlos Quentin IMO. Im really hoping we dont see a Roberts+Sherrill for whats left of our young talent. With they way they've been talking about Ramirez, I have a lot of difficulty thinking that they'd be willing to block him.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 12:58 PM) In the end, I guess I am happy. Hopefully someone picks him up and pays his contract. Is that how it works? Are we off the hook if he is claimed? The team has 10 days to trade him or for another team to claim him off of the waiver wire and agree to pick up his contract as written. If that doesn't happen, the Sox are on the hook for the full price for this year. You can guess how many GM's would be happy to pick up that contract right now if they expect they can sign Uribe for a lot less 10 days from now. Probably the only shot is to trade Uribe for a fringe minor leaguer somewhere and hope that we can talk a team into paying 1/2 of his salary in exchange for first dibs at him.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 12:54 PM) so... including last year we dumped Mackowiak, Iguchi and Uribe all for absolutely nothing in return. cool. At least with Mack and Iguchi we saved a bit on salary and at least picked up a couple fringe minor leaguers for them. Unless we've got something lined up, DFAing Uribe doesn't save us a penny and gets us nothing in return other than a roster spot and playing time for the youngin's.

Well...I wasn't willing to say that renegotiating Uribe's contract before trading for Cabrera was a mistake a few months ago when that all went down. But today, this officially moves me into the camp of saying it was a mistake to re-up with Uribe. How can you re-up with a guy and then 4 months later cut him before he's played a game of baseball?

QUOTE(SoxWS05 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 09:41 AM) Fields and his 125 K's in 400AB's helped the Sox win a lot of games in '07. According to Harball Times's win shares calculation, he accounted for 12 WS's last year. Crede was at 20 in 2006 and 14 in 2005 (playing full seasons).

Normally I'd have stuck this in the catch all thread but I figured someone would fail to notice it there and create a thread for it anyway. The Red Sox actually just made the breaking news on CNN.com.

Somewhere between first and fifth. And until I see how the players they have, many of whom are young, do in their tests this year, I'm not willing to be any more specific than that. This team could win anywhere between 70 and 100 games. And frankly, a lot of the difference will fall on the coaching staff in how they use players and how well they teach them.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 09:26 AM) Who is Adam Dunne? He's not showing up on baseball reference. Did you see Spiderman 3, and the scene where the sandman is born by falling in to a radioactive experiment? Well, Adam Dunn was walking along one day, fell into a gigantic hole, and had his body somehow merged with a bunch of sand. He became our nations newest member of the super powers club...Adam "Dunne", as in a Sand Dune. The only question is whether or not he'll use his powers for good or ill. Basically it depends on whether or not he winds up with the Yankees.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 09:18 AM) Well this thread is just ugly as hell. I don't even feel the urge to bother replying with anything substantive.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 08:20 PM) Slavery was also started before the US existed. Slavery has nothing to do with anyone alive and and is used as a cop out. Obama is pimping a great idea hypothetically but its not gonna change in the near future. If he wants to get rid of the racial divide its going to take more than a speech. Things like affirmative action and the Rooney rule should be immediately terminated because that isnt equality. Maybe Obama can sit down with the individual who didnt get into Princeton because of the spot that was reserved for affirmative action and then he can explain ending the racial divide and equality to that person. To know what route his wife had to go to get into school BECAUSE of the color of her skin instead of qualification and then to see her senior thesis and to hear her say this is the first time shes been proud of the US shows a great deal of lack of appreciation for the system that got her into college. Even the thought of a 1% possibility that he may deep down harness similar thoughts to the people close to him in terms of race terrifies me that he might get into office. Thankfully, I can use Obama's own words to respond to you on this issue, because he dealt with exactly that issue today.

QUOTE(max power @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 06:27 PM) I think it is. He has had one minor league stint that impressed me in his whole career. If he has no value, why not just let him leave? If he doesn't have enough value that there isn't another team that wants him, why do we? I guarantee you someone would happily grab him and try to develop him in to something useful if we didn't.

QUOTE(max power @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 06:25 PM) Good to know. I am just repeating what hawk or kenny or someone else said about who was competing for the long relief job on saturday. So if it isn't Masset, who is it? I really hate masset. Why not broadway or haegar? Anyone but massett, seriously, anyone. On that issue, it gets back to the lack of options. Whether you like him or not, it's not worth giving him up for nothing.

QUOTE(max power @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 06:18 PM) I am not sure what is confusing about that statement. The way they talk its seems like its Masset's job to lose, and imo, he lost it last year. Wasserman, from what they were saying saturday would be the guy to step up and take the long relief role. I am tired of seeing masset out there. He sucks. He sucked at every level in his career. I don't understand the attraction to him. I fully realize he is out of options, but who cares? He sucks. Wasserman seems like he'd be a terrible long relief guy. He's a sidearmer, I doubt he can take a lot of innings for that reason first, but second, his numbers were terrible against lefties...they hit like .500 against him. His job is a ROOGY. He hasn't started games since 2001 in the college, and he has basically averaged 1 inning per appearance since then. Last year in the big leagues he averaged 2/3 of an inning per appearance.

QUOTE(max power @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 06:13 PM) I wish they'd just pull the plug on Masset and give the long relief job to wasserman. ?????

The problem with Lexi is that while he may be hitting well, he's universally being described as very aggressive, going after the first pitch or so, etc. Probably not very patient. Not exactly the kind of thing you want from a leadoff hitter in that quality. Even when he was struggling, one good thing about Podsednik was that you could always count on him to take a few pitches to give the other guy sa chance to see the pitcher early and to work the count a bit.