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QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 02:30 PM) I think I'd bat Dye in the #3 spot , Thome 4th, Konerko 5...(R-L-R) I want Konerko's OBP before Thome comes up, and I want 1 of them coming up in the first inning, such that even if there's 2 outs, we can still pull off the "Walk, boom, 2 run lead".

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:21 PM) I agree... I think we're closer to 90.5 - 92 when all is said and done. All these luxury seats we're selling out certainly doesn't hurt our chances of getting there iether.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 12:30 PM) I know both are important but I really hope they get Garlands done as the priority of the two. I read someplace a week or so ago that it's been about 10 years since the White Sox have gone to arbitration with anyone.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:16 PM) It's pretty close. It depends on where Ramirez ends up. If he stays in Boston, then you have to go with him and Ortiz. If he goes to the Angels, i'd probably go with he and Vlad, barely. Don't forget that we spent last year watching PK crush the ball withotu good protection in the order and with a nasty slump in May. You put Thome behind PK and PK may challenge for the MVP next year. Ditto if you reverse the names.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:09 PM) until ramirez is traded, i'd go with ramirez and ortiz. not that it matters. And given that the Angels still need a bat, I'd say "Until" is actually the correct word now. They'll find a way to get that done. And then Thome/Konerko will have to compete with Vlad the Impaler/Manny.

THANK YOU KW! I must go to a talk, but I'll be back later to purchase my new #14 Jersey.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 10:49 PM) George Bush is set to give an important speech tomorrow. A couple things are probably going to happen. He's going to declare mission basically accomplished and he's going to announce plans for a drawdown of forces in Iraq. Both are good for one reason. As much as he says he's doing what's right, he's finally listening to people that are offering a dissenting point of view. That's encouraging. What worries me is that this is purely a political solution. One that "gets us out" without actually fixing the problem. And that will lead to a bigger problem down the road. I believe he did neither of those. Furthermore, I believe that the resolution passed by the Senate 2 weeks ago or so calls on the President to provide: President Bush and the document released this morning simply refuse to follow that resolution passed overwhelmingly by the Senate. You'll note that the Senate resolution left an out - they could give reasons why they would be unable to meet whatever schedule they gave, but the WH refused the demand entirely.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 07:04 AM) Imagine that...some good news from the front! Our Troops Must Stay By JOE LIEBERMAN Time magazine Baghdad bureau chief Michael Ware on Morning Sedition yesterday morning:

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 09:11 AM) I seriously doubt that the Sox could have worked out something for Abreu if that's the going rate. It's pretty obvious that Pavano is the most important part of the deal, and he represents something the Sox aren't going to give up: a major league starting pitcher. I think another key part of this sort of a deal, if it happens, would be the Yankees eating a large portion of the Pavano and Posada deals. Based on his health problems last year and the size of his contract, I can't imagine the Phils would want him as the key part of a deal for one of their biggest bats IF the Yankees weren't going to make it so that Pavano was an even bigger bargain for the Phils than Thome was for us.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 09:02 AM) I'm getting nervous. I bet you he stays if the Sox show him our facilities! We should put in an air hockey table. That'd keep him!

Cal Eldred, who went 10-2 in 20 starts for the White Sox in 2000 (and who followed that up with a series of injury plagued seasons before landing a relief pitching role with the Cardinals) has retired. Thanks for your help with the division in 2000 Cal!

Seats are sold out. Send money to Konerko.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 07:38 AM) Nuke, I'm just guessing here, but I think that anyone who has a different opinion than you regarding the current administration and its effects would point to those links and say, "well, it's Fox News, of course it will say things like that." I dislike Fox News as much as anyone, but dude, seriously, go look at the pages Nuke referenced...4 out of the 5 are direct newswire stories from Reuters, and the 5th says at the bottom "Reuters contributed to this report". That stuff is actually hard news - it's a wire service story reporting actual numbers. Doesn't matter if it comes from Fox or the World Socialist Web Site....if it's a wire service story then it's a wire service story. If you have a problem with Reuters for some reason let me know.

QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 09:12 PM) Sonofa... so we couldn't swing a little extra to get Abreu instead of Thome? If this goes through, I'll be irate. Abreu has a strict no-trade clause as did Thome...which would mean that Abreu would have had to be willing to waive that clause for him to come to us. No guarantee he'd be willing to do that.

All I can add to this is that my personal economy has improved dramatically of late...fiance finally got a job 2 months ago that pays well, and finally got her health insurance card 2 days ago, so she can finally afford to make that doctor's appointment she's desperately needed for like a year now but couldn't afford.

QUOTE(Confederate_48 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 08:46 AM) Isnt this just him going through the free agent process like he said he was gonna do or does it mean something else ? It's him doing exactly what he said he'd do...but it does mean that we better get our asses together and make him a quality offer if we want to keep him.

QUOTE(bschmaranz @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 10:16 PM) Ricciardi = Drunkin Sailor In the division they're in, can you honestly blame them?

Man, I'm sad we didn't learn about This in advance...we could have gotten 5-10 of us together, put on Sox Jerseys, slapped a few "Please don't leave PK" signs together and sat outside of the Big A chanting "Paulie Paulie Paulie" yesterday.

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) Extremely hypothetical, I know, but I wouldn't put anything past Pete. I recall reading somewhere that the Mariners (way back) were looking at a travelling exhibit of old bats put on by Hillerich and Bradsby and Dave Henderson was examining a bat used by Babe Ruth, and came to the conclusion that it was corked. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. I don't believe corked bats were actually banned until something like the 70's...Craig Nettles was the guy in 74 who was caught when his bat exploded and superballs started bouncing everywhere...he wasn't suspended, because it wasn't really a rule he could be suspended under.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 05:33 PM) You just described Scott Podsednik....look what he did. So you're telling me Juan Pierre will hit a walk off dinger in game 2 of the W.S. against the Mets or the Cardinals closers next year?

QUOTE(hi8is @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 05:24 PM) so should we all buy champagne and pour it all over our selves again if paulie signs.. not that it makes us a lock for a repeat but it makes it a lock that we get to see our coveted 3/4 combo =D Nothing makes us a lock and you know that, especially given injuries...but if PK resigns, the world champs will have done more to improve themselves than any other team in baseball this year. BMac into the 5th starter spot Jenks starting the season as closer Hermanson hopefully as a setup man if healthy enough Long relief - El Duque Bench - hopefully rid ourselves of Timo DH - swap Everett for Thome CF - Anderson in for Rowand The only one which doesn't look like a significant upgrade over last year on paper is Anderson in for Rowand, but that's only because Anderson's younger...he's almost certainly got a bigger upside - faster, more power, could hit for same average as ARow, better throwing arm. If you put Thome in that lineup for Everett...you've basically fixed some of the biggest problems we had all last year - no big left handed bat, no bat to support Konerko, nobody drawing walks, nobody who can play 1b and give PK a break. Without PK signing, we're in probably worse shape than last year - we have Thome, but it's not a great idea for him to play the field every day, we don't have a good bat to put next to him, and we're still missing a lot of OBP.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 05:19 PM) One bad season doesn't make a player suck. Go check out Konerko's 2003 numbers. Agreed...but that still doesnt' mean Pierre's going to suddenly slap up a .400 OBP next year. (His career # is .355)

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 05:15 PM) If you want to see a really crappy season, don't look at 2005 Marte, look at 2005 Pierre. Pierre's would be a weak hitting, bad fielding, waste of $3 mil. Or $4 mil, $5 mil, whatever he's getting paid. 2005 Salary: $3,700,000

QUOTE(CrimsonWeltall @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 05:11 PM) an authentic jersey i haven't decided who yet Hopefully after this week you can go ahead and order that #14.

I still don't want Pierre. I don't like the idea of trading to get an outfielder when we have plenty of outfielders coming up, I want Anderson's defense out there, and I think it's time to develop Anderson in CF too.