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I didn't realize i made a faux pas. As I was typing I thought it would be rude to refer to her as Hillary so I went with Mrs Clinton. I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks.

QUOTE (Soxy @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 11:04 AM) Was Bill's mom there? Oh, you mean Senator Clinton. Right. Yes. She and her campaign did a lot of complaining about the media coverage during the primaries. I guess it worked for about a week or so because the MSM completely focused on Obama for a few days.

QUOTE (mreye @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 10:59 AM) It's not apathy. It's the truth. Daniels will win again and McCain will win solidly. As Athomeboy stated elsewhere, the Obama campaign has the resources to force McCain to spend money there and focus less on other swing states. They bled Hillary's campaign in a similar fashion.

Even though McCain adviser Rick Davis called Americans a bunch of whiners I'm a bit baffled that the GOP spent an inordinate amount of time at the convention whining about the media. How exactly is that going to help them? Didn't work too well for Mrs Clinton.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:45 AM) Belittling smaller states and cities? Sounds just like Rove (pre-Palin, of course!)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1lCMH8rlHE PWNED

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:44 AM) Everyone who can't bear to actually Gov Palin by her title. That's the big difference though. The actual VP nominee was doing the belittling in front of an audience of millions. How can you compare that to what liberal bloggers are saying?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) Its the same flyover mentality that the Dems have had for a long time. For good GOP flyover mentality see Mr Eye's last post in the Palin thread.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) They totally demeaned and put down the entire state of Alaska and all civic and elected officials in small towns across the USA. They basically said if you aren't in a big office, or in a big state, you aren't important. Having run for an small elected office, and being from a small state, it was pretty insulting to me. Its the same flyover mentality that the Dems have had for a long time. Who is "they"? Liberal bloggers?

QUOTE (mreye @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:41 AM) Save your time. Indiana is not going to Obama. That's the spirit! Why bother? Apathy in 2008!!!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:34 AM) How you can't see the similarities is perplexing. 9ui11ani and Palin openly mocked community organizing in front of an audience of millions. What exactly did Obama or Biden say or do that was comparable in your eyes?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:31 AM) I forgot, she was the only mayor in the entire country... Seriously. They are both insults. They are both meant to belittle each other. How you can compare the 2 is perplexing to say the least.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:24 AM) And what ever you do, don't run for mayor, or live in a small state. Most people aren't running for President or Vice President in this country. The belittling of community organizing was a slap in the face to thousands of people across the country. The questioning of Palin's experience was directly a reference to her as an individual.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 08:08 AM) Getting back to the attendence game, apparently Palin out rated Biden 37 million to 24 million. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080904/D93079DG4.html Maybe McCain should run negative attack ads calling her a "celebrity"?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 08:01 AM) Its funny but after McCains speech last night, and watching AHB post, I am ready to give to the McCain camp. It would be my first donation ever. That's good. More peopel should get involved in the process. I must admit the $10M to $1M rate of donations favoring the Obama campaign since Palin's speech gives me a smile.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 07:58 AM) CNN had a pundit refer to her last night as the ideological heir to George Bush without the baggage of actually being tied to him. Palin's speech got me excited too. So excited that I did something I swore I wasn't going to do this campaign. I donated to Obama's election warchest. It also revved me up to do more volunteer work. I'm going to Indiana tomorrow to do some canvassing and whatever else they ask me to do. A lot of my friends and family are equally as excited to help out and donate to the Obama campaign.

Also, is there any reason why the McCain camp will not let Palin do any interviews or go on any talk shows? How long can they hide her from the American people. We know nothing about her positions.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 08:22 AM) It was a little too obvious. I could see comparing her to the effect Obama's had on the Dems (although it's just one speech and Obama's been around for a while now), but Reagan? Wow. She honestly reminds me of George W Bush. Someone with zero foreign policy knowledge that seems like a cool person to have a beer with.

She did have one very big impact that got me excited. Per NBC last night Obama raked in $10M in donations since her speech. She's doing a great job of riling up the democratic base and I'm pretty sure Hillary supporters as well.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:32 AM) I will probably be alone when I say this, but I thought John McCain made the speech of a lifetime last night. He did exactly what he had to do last night. It was a very positive speech, unlike Obama's who spent most of the night attacking Bush and McCain, and unlike Palin, who spent most of her speech taking pot-shots at Obama. McCain actually sounded like the guy I wanted to vote for in 2000, by moving back to the middle of the road, instead of the right wing conservative crap he has spewed to try to lock down the right wing. I also really liked that unlike Obama, he was willing to stand up and critisize his own party, and their failures economically and in Washington. He also did a very good job of leaving all of the religious overtones to a very small minimum, and largely out of the speech. He actually won my vote yesterday instead of being the guy who was the guy I could hold my nose for. The stand up and fight charge at the end was the best inspiration since Bush on the rubble pile. Bravo. Apparently you did not watch that speech.

And where was McCain's flag pin!?!? He hates our troops!!!

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 07:29 AM) She wasn't up there to gain the votes of the educated, she was up there to get the votes of the emotional, non educated people, and her speech was taylored and literally dumbed down to that. And, again, I think it was written in a way to mock RSO's speech from last week, on purpose. You do know that a majority of the speech was written before she was selected the VP, right?

And it seemed like she was reading a wikipedia page about Iran and other countries. The Daily Show ripped her on that one last night.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:20 AM) OK so, I recorded Palin's speech (I hope). Haven't seen it yet. ANy impressions, thoughts? The MSM and their left-wing bias is doing nothing but slobbering all over her speech. I can't recall any VP candidate ever getting such positive coverage. She did a fine job of reading what was mostly written before she was even selected as VP. Granted she was a television anchor so she has experience reading from a teleprompter. It was purely a red meat speech. I'm not sure it really convinced people as to why McCain and Palin will be good for the country or better than Obama/Biden. It was a lot of one liners and snark with a condescending tone. But hey I'm a liberal so what did you expect to hear from me?

First the $500 shoes and then the 7, or is it 8, homes. Now this... I can see why they are labeling Obama the elitist. Most people can relate to the lifestyle of the McCains and their private fleet of jets.

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