BigSqwert

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 03:33 PM) Because of pitch counts. So you're a mind reader? How do you know Ozzie would have pulled him? Why didn't Ozzie pull Vazquez against Oakland? He pitched all 9 innings and threw 121 pitches.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 03:28 PM) I don't know about his blunder costing us the sweep. If Ozzie let Mark finish the game I'd agree with you. Pitch counts indicated Mark was done and the Royals were not going lightly. If Paulie makes that play it would be 2 outs and nobody on base in the 8th for KC. (EDIT: And we would still be winning) Why would Mark have been done?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 03:23 PM) Might have cost the sweep. The offense could only muster 1 run. But we still had the lead until he botched that play. We would have been 4 outs away from a win.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 03:21 PM) Yet the Sox have won 2 of the 3 games since Konerko has been back from the DL. His lack of speed has cost nothing. His defense cost us the sweep. That's what touched off this entire tirade by everyone.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 02:25 PM) okay, so Hagel agrees with Obama on one thing, the war, and is adverse to him on everything else. Find someone else please. No doubt.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 01:16 PM) walk #12 - walked and scored walk #13 - walked, was pinch run for, pinch runner scored walk #14 - stranded at third after leadoff walk, flyout, subsequent walk, a throwing error moving him to third, and then two popouts. Not sure if speed impacted this one but given the description I doubt it. walk #15 - walked, was stranded at third after a couple of fcs (bases were constantly loaded with speedy Thome ahead of him) walk #16 - walked with 2 outs, JD strikes out. walk #17 - walked, was pinch run for (anderson), two more walks, ozuna GIDPs with the bases loaded to end the game (this was that toronto game) walk #18 - two out walk, JD makes third out (AGAIN) should I keep going or are we getting the picture this "clogging up the basepaths" argument is sort of bulls*** in my opinion Since you're having so much fun pulling up his stats how about LOB? Or GIDP

Hopefully Paulie starts a nice hitting streak today and makes all of this moot.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 01:00 PM) Swisher looked like an ant in center field last night. That's why he should be playing first.

BTW, this thread is way too similar to the "favorite 25 Sox players of all time" thread in SLaM.

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 10:29 AM) Sosa is not a White Sox star. He was a raw talent who did not "realize" his potential until well after he left the Sox. He also never learned how to hit the cutoff man. And was chemically enhanced.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 10:12 AM) Btw - Konerko's OBP - .319 A. Ramirez's OBP - .326 think about it. Doesn't that just mean he walks a lot? For that salary I want him to be an RBI machine.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 11, 2008 -> 01:38 AM) If we actually win the series, for me it's much easier to take a loss even when there are obvious goats. I'm sick of the "at least we won the series" mentality. We should have swept this lousy team plain and simple. If we would have went for the jugular in 2005 and tried sweeping teams instead of tinkering with Sunday lineups all the time we wouldn't have had that near collapse in September. Try to win every damn game. We might not be as lucky this year.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 08:38 PM) Maybe throwing that 121 pitch CG previous start had something to do with it. No doubt. I was scratching my head wondering why he was still pitching the 9th in that one.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 08:27 PM) did you guys honestly think we were gonna beat them 1-0? i mean, seriously Why do you find it unimaginable for a team with the 2nd best ERA in baseball to beat a terrible team in a 1-0 game? Was there something that occurred before Paulie's crappy play that made you think Mark was going to s*** his pants? We needed 5 more outs to win 1-0 and Mark was cruising.

What an awful season Paulie is having.

Wow. Mark kicking it into another gear tonight.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 06:58 PM) Dang storms. No DirecTv signal. I'll start yelling at the clouds like my avatar.

Dang storms. No DirecTv signal.

And I couldn't help but to think about this after hearing that story...

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 12:09 PM) True story about Greinke from a friend who doesn't just make up stuff. He told me a friend of his was at a Barnes and Noble (or Borders, one of them) and then he saw Greinke there just alone and minding his own business. This guy is a college aged kid so right around Greinke. Apparently, Greinke out of the blue came up to the guy and just starting talking with him and saying the two should hang out after a bit of conversation. I don't know why, but I find it hilarious. Greinke seems like a bit of a loner and guy who can be rattled easily. Heh. Poor Greinke has no friends.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 03:55 PM) IMO, the "nation of whiners" comment was pretty elitist (god I hate that word). It's easy to trivialize and mock other people when you're not one of them and you don't identify with their problems. The guy flies around in his wife's private jet. Not sure how the average American can relate.

Hopefully they get the run back and go another 7.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 03:53 PM) Who said anything about McCain? My bad. I thought this was the Democratic thread. I didn't realize we can only bash Obama here.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 03:43 PM) The label's stupid if you don't have anything to substantiate it with. However, IMO, I think the way I described it, he is an eliteist. At least I have a definition. And how is McCain not an Elitist? Does he have to work 2 jobs to make ends meet and clip coupons? Does he carpool to work?

I'd like to see the series split this weekend with each game going 17 innings or more.