mr_genius

dumb, dumb dumb dumb...... duummmmb

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 9, 2007 -> 02:07 PM) Bottom line, nice arguments, I hope you find a nice smoke filled environment, too bad it won't be in Illinois public places. looks like they won't be able to in a public or private place. a pub is not a public place.

BOOO!!!

here we go

Crede deserves a gold glove

k this guy

fairly soft throw to fist by Iguchi

hahah, Ozuna is the DH

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 8, 2007 -> 06:24 PM) Being a bartender shows a highly elevated death rate over what one would have expected, largely due to a highly elevated rate of deaths by lung cancer compared with other jobs. a lot of bartenders drink and smoke. i would be willing to bet that the percentage of bartenders that smoke would be much higher than the percentage of other professions that smoke. the high lung cancer rate for bartenders may not be largely due to second hand smoke, but first hand smoke. but, i will concede that second hand smoke is bad for you.

i predict a sox victory

QUOTE(Y2HH @ May 8, 2007 -> 01:17 PM) For the final final time...I do not, nor have I EVER smoked. Now to russle me up some cattle. you might as well just leave the thread. it's just a long list of bad analogies. i've tried to explain how a owner of a private business should be able to allow legal and reasonable activity in their establishment and i got a bunch of "well, you can't dump toxic waste in an oprhanage!" or "go kill yourself with smoke, not me!" i don't smoke, but i would totally use an orphanage as a commercial toxic waste dump. so i guess their analogies were 50% accurate.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 7, 2007 -> 02:49 PM) What if you live in a state of despair? *groan*

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2007 -> 07:22 AM) So I take it you'd have no problem having something like a Waste Transfer station located next to your home? If he bought the home knowing it was there, would he have anyone to blame but himself? If you go to a cigar bar, and hate cigar smoke, who should you blame for your situation? meh, doesn't matter. It passed and it will be nice for me because I don't like cigarette smoke but I do enjoy a few beers and the bar. Now they need to ban cell phones on public transportation, restaurants and baseball games. offenders served with jail time.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ May 7, 2007 -> 12:26 PM) If those are the facts, I think he has a great chance. he should win if they put this in his contract they owe him the rest of the money on his contract.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 6, 2007 -> 11:43 PM) He probably tried to defend him with a baseball bat, but obviously that isn't the right weapon for Brian.

YES!!!!

FINALLY!

QUOTE(Balance @ May 4, 2007 -> 12:32 PM) (waiting for the obligatory, "well, don't go to a bar, then" response.....) well, don't go to that bar.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 4, 2007 -> 09:55 AM) Anyone have thoughts on the debate last night? I only caught a few snippets. Romney seemed very presidential. The debate was horribly moderated in both style and the questions asked. possibly the worst run debate i've ever seen. MSNBC and Politico.com were running it, so I should have expected as much. Romney won, IMO. No one really screwed up, it was fairly even.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 3, 2007 -> 05:15 PM) I thought those tax cuts went to everyone! well, i will concede that even the democrats don't want to raise taxes on the $0- $8,000 tax bracket.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ May 3, 2007 -> 12:38 PM) or you can take your ass outside to get your sweet breath of toxic air, and come back in and breathe normally and happily... we can go outside and get a breath of fresh air... but doesnt the other way around make a whole hell of a lot more sense? your post makes absolutely no sense. so i am supposed 'take my ass' outside to breathe toxic air, but the air inside is clean? but when you go outside the air is clean? i think you were trying to think of tell me in a clever and insulting way to go outside and smoke. i don't smoke, steve. and for your analogy of "peeing down someones throat..." all anologies break down and fail at some point. yours does instantly.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 3, 2007 -> 09:18 AM) You have a source for that fact? The Bush tax cuts (which are supposedly only for the wealthy) cut taxes on a salary of 40,000. If the tax cuts are rolled-back to the Clinton rates (which the dems like) , everyones taxes will increase. Of course, they will raise the highest tax brackets first, but everyone elses taxes will eventually be raised. But it won't won't be a tax increase, it's just a rate adjustment!

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 2, 2007 -> 07:20 PM) Smokers are fouling the air, why should their rights trump the non polluter? You are saying that because smoking is legal in some places, it should be legal everywhere. Alcohol is legal, but we regulate where it can be served, how it can be served, etc. Spitting is legal, but we regulate where you can spit. Cell phones are legal, but we restrict where you can use them. I don't see a difference in these laws. outdoor smoking does basically nothing to cause air pollution. it's so minimal. you are missing my entire point, texsox. it's a question of whether the owner of a private institution may allow smoking. not that you have the right to smoke wherever you want. i have stated this repeatedly but you seem to keep coming back tooo "why do you think people should be able to smoke wherever they want?"

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 2, 2007 -> 07:03 PM) Of course this becomes a "your right to swing your arm ends at my nose" situation. yes, we have been smoking for centuries. We are also just beginning, on that time line, to understand the health ramifications of smoking and second hand smoke. So here is the "my nose" part of the debate. A smoker takes clean air and turns it potentially into a health risk for everyone. Should anyone have the right to alter a basic necessity of life? Whose rights trump the other? The polluters right to smoke, or the non polluters right to keep the air clean? I'm also for personal responsibility. I don't wish to breath polluted air. Why should the polluter be protected? do i have the right to swing my arms at your nose? i guess if you came over to my house knowing i like to do that, than yea you should expect it (assuming i do not hit you, which would be illegal, than you would have no one to blame but yourself). no one forces people to go to a bar. if you don't want to breathe smoke, don't go. it's a simple solution. there is a big difference to polluting the air outside which everyone is forced to breathe or you DECIDING YOU WANT TO go into a bar and it is a smoking bar.