Steve9347

Just an update... they were so impressed they called me hours later and notified me that they'd be extending an offer. THIS ROCKS.

QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 07:59 AM) And a very funny joke at that. Thanks for the good laugh. You are most welcome.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) Last night had nothing to do with Khabi. Well, it had something to do with him, but he did make 33 saves or so on 37 shots. The whole team took a collective stinky dumb on the cold ice last night and it steamed.

QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 10:45 AM) I'll admit I was to NorthSider's comment, but I won't to yours. Your comment was the one that really pisses me off. No, I don't live in a trailer, but I also don't go around making rude, sterotypical comments about people that live in them either. I don't apologize because it was such an obvious joke. When did Soxtalk become the no-fun zone? And to think I was such a fan of Monsters, Inc!

Since it's kind of on topic, I've been in my current position for two years, but tomorrow morning will be interviewing for the "next step" which will be a much more lucrative option and also 5 minutes away from home vs. the 45 I drive each way now. Some one, for the love of God, wish me a bunch of luck!

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 05:51 PM) Honestly, not your best thread Steve. That's just like.... yer opinion... man.

QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 11:27 AM) Maybe I'm over-reacting a bit, I'll admit, but I still think it's a valid point and falls under the rules of Soxtalk: I'd say you are over-reacting more than just a bit there.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 03:47 PM) Wow, that makess Garland their #1. cough, Jered Weaver, cough.

QUOTE(max power @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 01:56 PM) Uribe may have increased his value, decreased it, or it might be the same. I'd put my house on him not having increased value.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 02:01 PM) Edited for accuracy. The Sox didn't exactly look like world-beaters going into 2005, either. Be fair and wait until June or so before declaring the Sox a "joke." Actually, I was quite high on the White Sox going into 2005 because of their pitching staff and the addition of a true leadoff hitter and a catcher who could actually hit. Do you remember before 05 when we had 5th starter woes? What do you think of 3rd, 4th, AND 5th starter woes?

QUOTE(max power @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 01:45 PM) No, I was happy they put him on waivers and supposedly someone picked him up. Then richar broke his rib and I was happy when they took him off waivers. Richar will heal, and uribe will be gone. Kenny made the right moves. I don't see how you can blame him for richar breaking a rib. Seriously, its obvious you skimmed to the paragraph headers and then went on super defend the White Sox mode. How does this statement in my original post say I blame Kenny for Richar's injury? Just show me that one spot and I'll care what you have to say. Right now, however, you're on my ignore list.

QUOTE(max power @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 01:45 PM) No, I was happy they put him on waivers and supposedly someone picked him up. Then richar broke his rib and I was happy when they took him off waivers. Richar will heal, and uribe will be gone. Kenny made the right moves. I don't see how you can blame him for richar breaking a rib. I don't blame him for Richar breaking a rib. I blame him for not taking a golden opportunity to move Juan Uribe. He could have just as easily signed Marcus Giles whose production would be downright identical at 1/5 of Uribe's salary. Uribe knows he's unwanted, and now he's still here. They are throwing away money, but like I said that's not my problem. I actually watch these games though, and watching Uribe for ONE MORE AT BAT will be one too many. Interesting tidbit from Jason Grey today.

QUOTE(max power @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 01:38 PM) Blah blah blah. Overreaction blame-game bulls*** with simple minded answers for complex situations. You may be Steve #9347, & you'll never be Steve Number One to me. You're a real man of long winded complaints based on false pretenses. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, dude. If you're ecstatic the Sox didn't cut ties with Uribe, good for you... me? I'm a realist.

Personally, I think if A-Rod had actually done what Canseco says, it would have been in his first book. Canseco just wants another payday.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 11:46 AM) Unlike previous years there are players that can replace him if he fails which he might. There are at least two other guys that can step right in. For the 2008 season the higher ceilings guys are Crede and Uribe. They will both be on short leashes and will be DFA'd should they suck. They are getting the first shot. What is the big f***ing deal with everyone. It is not like Fields, Ramirez and Richar even that Bourgoise fellow are being released. I like that there are options over Erstad and Andy Gonzalez this year. That fact that people are complaining that Phillips was sent down over releasing Hall is absolutely laughable and borders are insanity. Those people will bith to b****. If Hall sucks he can be DFA'd and Phillips can be recalled. Again what is the big f***ing deal. None of Crede, Uribe, Hall, Fields, Phillips, and whoever the golden child to play second over Uribe will be the reason this team loses as they guys are not expected to carry the team. It will come down to Konerko, Thome, Dye, Swisher, the bullpen, Contreras and one of Danks or Floyd to live up to expectations. You make a valid argument at top. I care much less about the Crede situation than Uribe, as we know his ceiling is a .250 average with a ton of strikeouts and a .290 OBP. I feel he should be backing up if we have to have him on the roster. He'd be an incredibly useful guy to backup at 2B/SS, and I'd rather see him in that role than starting. Ramirez has impressed, and should get regular at bats, not be a backup. As for Crede, whatever, I think stunting Fields' growth hurts the franchise more than letting Crede go for a bag of peanuts. As for Phillips, I don't care in the least that he was sent down. If Hall is actually healthy, which we'll find out soon enough, he can be incredibly valuable to this team. If he's hurting like he was last year, Phillips will be up soon enough.

Frank Thomas

This is hilarious. Now the "depth" we have in having Uribe starting and fFelds in AAA is a good thing i guess. Seriously, Juan Uribe is an awful player, and now he's, YET AGAIN, in line for many at bats, just at a new position. This is a goddamn joke.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 11:11 AM) And do the Sox really want to start the service time clock on players when you have another one under contract for a year? If you agree with the Fields move, then you probably agree the Longoria move. Both are bad baseball moves.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 10:27 PM) He's been doing it for like 10 years now, you may as well get used to it. All the pitchers around the league generally are, and they should be seeing as how he's lit them up for 490 homers. That's what i was thinking. As long as I can remember Manny's been Manny and I don't think anything is going to change anytime soon. Seems he's in for quite the bounce back season already.

Williams has been really good, I don't see Savvy's purpose here one bit. As for tonight's game, Leclaire is still injured, so the Hawks should win handily.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 10:55 AM) No you don't have to decorate your house to be a fan. Just as you don't have to have 4 FULL season tickets to be a fan. In fact, I would say all you really need to do is be interested in the team...Which you made a post saying you're not. +1 I may gripe, but I'll be pissing myself on March 31 awaiting first pitch.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 10:02 AM) Seriously. Not that there aren't problems, but, the way some people post, you'd think the 2008 Sox were a wreck. The lineup is far better, the bullpen is far better, the bench overall (except Hall) will be better, and the team has a depth of young talent it didn't have before. That is balanced against a starting rotation that might have gotten worse, though we don't know that yet... and some concerns over guys like Fields and Quentin having their development slowed a bit. Overall, this is a much improved team. Are they better this year than last? Yes. Are they good enough to seriously be considered for a championship? Definitely not. My post was more complaining about the fact that this organization has no direction and no plan and is just piling up the players before thinking if it will actually work. It's the EXACT OPPOSITE of how they approached the offseason before 2005. I love Nick Swisher, I'm glad we have him, but the rest of the moves seemingly have no purpose behind them other than to ensure we finish around .500.

QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 09:18 AM) Looks like a house to me. Where does the story say it's a trailer? Or are you implying that someone this dumb has to live in a trailer? It's a good implication. In this case, incorrect, but 9/10 the guy using the gun to punch a hole in his wall lives in a trailer.

If Masset could record some outs this spring I'd say keep him. As it is, he's never shown much value since being a White Sox, and I don't really care if some other team pounces on him, because that would just make their Major League team that much worse.

Summarizing the many gaffes of the Chicago White Sox in just one offseason. Juan Uribe To no one's surprise, less than a week after placing Juan Uribe on waivers, the White Sox seem to now be planning to start him at second base. Certainly, he was placed on waivers because everyone assumed the team was finally ready to move on from his horrible .234 AVG/.284 OBP last season. Luckily, for Kenny Williams and the franchise, some team actually wanted Uribe enough to claim him AND the 4.5 million salary that comes along with him. All of Soxdom cheers as Juan Uribe, the most unwatchable hitter in the Major Leagues, he of the expanding ass, is gone! Hallelujah! Party in the streets! So what does KW do? He PULLS URIBE BACK, thinking he can squeeze a low A-ball reliever out of what I presume to be the Baltimore Orioles (but possibly SF/LAD). Guess what? Claiming team tells him to screw off, and now we're stuck with Uribe. OK, that's fine, whatever, it's not my money. We've got Sexy 'Lexi looking good, and Richar's only out a few weeks (news that broke the same day Uribe was placed on waivers, surely making this somewhat difficult for Kenny, but not really). I mean, seriously, if you're worried about that, let Juan go and sign Marcus Giles for something like 700k and save yourself a lot of money while getting roughly the same production. ANYWAY, We've got Alexei Ramirez, we've got Richar coming back, it just made sense to be rid of Uribe... finally and forever. Now, we're stuck with him, and of course he's going to start at 2B on Opening Day. Heaven forbid we not have to watch that fool hack at balls in the dirt for one more season. This is quite possibly the oddest turnaround for a player I've ever seen, to go from waived for the purposes of being rid of him to starting for the same team that waived him less than two weeks later. Josh Fields As if one goofup wasn't enough, we now have the Great 3B Question of 2008. For any other franchise (save maybe the almost as moronic Tampa Bay Rays), this one is simple. Move Crede, regardless of return, and continue the development of the only prospect worth a s*** in your organization. Josh Fields burst onto the scene in 2007, through 100 games blasting 23 homers and 67 RBI (albeit with only a .308 OBP). A work in progress, but the progress is obviously ready to continue in the Majors. The fact that Josh Fields, after the production he had last year, is being sent down is an utter catastrophe. Another case of Kenny overvaluing what he has in Joe Crede (see Juan Uribe and pulling him back). Seriously, Joe Crede is what he is... a Scott Boras client, coming off major back surgery in the final year of his contract who had one of the worst Spring Trainings in baseball. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO GET FOR HIM? Yes, 2005 was great, but it was time for Crede to move on. One player with a forced foot out the door is enough, but this team has two. That's not how you create a championship ballclub. Centerfield, Leftfield, where's Swish going to play, who the hell's in our outfield? Yet another screwup by management by over-crowding our outfield. With Jerry Owens in-house and being given every chance to start for this team, it's obvious that management thinks incredibly highly of him and had no intention on anyone else starting in CF. So why was Nick Swisher fielding there in Spring Training? Now, Brian Anderson has had his ups and downs. However, KW has managed to not move him regardless of what he's said about him to the press and how he's handled Anderson. So here's BA, to no one's surprise a talented player having been a first round draft pick, raking in Spring Training, yet Jerry Owens gets all of 36 at bats in Spring Training and it's obvious management was going to hand him the starting job. However, it seems he's being DL'd right before the season starts. We're 5 days away from Opening Day, and the outfield is filled with questions. Now, with "Black Prancer" DL'd, Anderson's the obvious choice to start, and I hope he continues to rake as I've always been a fan regardless of what this franchise has tried to do to him. Now, here's Carlos Quentin, a guy KW got for Chris Carter, one of many of our top prospects who would be moved this offseason, and Quentin might start the season in AAA or a backup role (correct me if something's been announced already). The perception when he was acquired is that he's a high-upside, power bat (with good OBP), and the trade was a steal. Even I thought so. Then, not long after that, KW trades 3 more of our top prospects for Nick Swisher, whom he forces to play some games in CF in Spring Training, and never gives a defined role to... CF, LF, lead off, 3-hole, 6-spot, where's he going to play? The guy who everyone considers this franchise's cornerstone is not being given a defined role. He's being juggled around. Luckily for the White Sox he's a class act and hasn't complained. Summary My main argument here is that management has no gameplan. Now, I understand Kenny holds onto the weird notion that the White Sox are going to compete this year. That's fine, delusional GMs eventually get fired. However, have you ever seen a true title contender have so many question marks heading into a season? Absolutely not. Yeah, I jumped around a lot, but this is a lot of stupidity for one offseason. If the White Sox do what we think they will (hover around .500 or worse) with their 3-5 starters all being huge question marks and a lineup that still tries to only hit homeruns aside from its 33 year old shortstop, what will we have to show for it? I believe another relatively high draft pick that we can combine with this year's high pick to trade for another guy who will help Mr. AARP Jim Thome and co. flounder toward a .500 finish. Maybe we'll throw Poreda into that trade as well. /rant