IlliniKrush

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 10:13 PM) Not if Duke chokes this away. Wowza.

Yup, that non rebound ended the game.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 08:06 PM) Duke at BC, with Mike Patrick watching his Blue Devil's play. I wonder how many times we will hear Patrick spew the erroneous fact of Redick being the All-time FT leader. He's actually 3rd among active players, behind Blake Ahearn and Steve Novak and is about to fall to 4th behind Derek Ravio of the Zags who is behind Redick .02 at the moment. Why do I care? I have no idea. Just heard one...then JJ only made 1/2

Do girls think traditional things such as flowers, cards, and candy are dull gifts, or do they still love them on valentine's day even though everyone seems to receive these things?

Sweet first half by Iowa. Purdue has led the whole half, and Iowa looks brutal. At the break, they trail Purdue 33-25. I'd LOVE for this upset to happen

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 01:31 PM) So, FSU is the only school you can come up with that hasnt changed their mascot yet? I would like to know how its a load of crap in your eyes? You say I cant understnad the chief because I dont go there, maybe you dont understand their views of the racism because you arent in their minority having your culture distorted? I only need one example to show an inconsistency. Christ he throws a flaming spear into the 50 yard line, yet that's ok. If you want me to name another school, with a different style, similar category...Notre Dame. My opinions are different than theirs because i think the Chief represents such things as loyalty, spirt, courage, etc and embodies the whole university. Honestly, i think if there were a $$ deal in place with them like FSU has, they wouldn't be saying such things, IMO. The Chief doesn't "mock" anything. The dance is taken very seriously and the Chief has a lot of tradition behind it. Just because it's not 100% authentic doesn't make it a mockery, in my eyes. I also don't know exactly what it "distorts," i don't have negative views about Native Americans due to my experiences here.

That's pretty much a load of crap in my eyes, but i realize people have that opinion. I'm not going to get into it. However, if they are going to do this to the majority of schools, do it to all of them. That FSU seminole is offensive. Certainly more offensive in his actions than the Chief's dance. But he will probably stay due ot $$$? That's very inconsistent.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 01:17 PM) And I believe the debate is over the chief illiniwek. Brief yourself of the actual premise of the argument. But it's not just the technical naming of Illiniwek and Illini. If it were, they'd both be gone. It's about the actual symbol, dance, et al.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 01:17 PM) Ok, name all of these schools that are exceptions to this rule, and I will beat that list with a number of schools who have already been forced to change their mascot. Is there an actual argument in this post? Explain to me why FSU hasn't been touched. Exactly.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 01:14 PM) Oh, I didnt know that it was called Univeristy of Illinois Illiniwek. Oh and PS, im sure there are ALOT of people who DO go to your school who think it is racist. Here is the short list: UIUC Chancellor's Committee on Diversity, UIUC Student Government, ISU Student Government, NAACP-CU Chapter, Nat'l Organization for Women-CU Chapter, UIUC's College of Medicine, School of Life Sciences, Counseling Center Staff, and Departments of Anthropology, English, History, Psychology, Sociology My argument wasn't that no one here thinks it's racist. So don't put words in my mouth. There are many here (and $$$$$ alumni) who think that the Chief is very important to this school. It's not just some 'gymnastics' dance, like ignorant people think. Without going to the school, your opinion really holds no weight.

Illini, smartass. Illinois, Illini. Get it? Brilliant!

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 11:50 AM) I love their stuff, and their ad here, but as I was getting ready to order I read Tom Seaver! Yes he spent some time on the Southside, but I never considered him anything other than a Met. Hell he was with the Reds for like 5 or 6 seasons. Jackson? Again, more a sideshow than a mainline player. Great guy, but certainly we could do better. He was also one of the sox players shown during the 2004 into video. Pretty pathetic.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 09:27 AM) Who could be upset over losing a white guy dressed as a native american doing a gymnastics routine? More than you think. You don't go here, so your opinion means nothing.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 11:27 AM) This has nothing to do with Illinois, it has to do with the fact that the NCAA gets rid of all the Indian Mascots, yet lets certain schools win appeals. Either keep them all or dump them all is all I'm saying. Ding ding ding we have a winner

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 10:38 AM) Well, illiniwek is also considered "racist" False. Nor is this the issue at hand. If it were, we'd have to change our name to the Illinois Orange or some s***.

IA and WI enjoy a huge scheduling advantage by playing all four BT bottom feeders on the road. IL and MSU play only two of them on the road. In sum, IL and MSU started the season with a two game deficit on IA and WI. Big win tonight, as IL picks up two clicks on Wisky. That said, here is an updated look at the projected order of finish should the top seven teams win out on respective home courts and on the road against the bottom four. Team Wins Losses Remaining Road Games IA 12 4 PU, NW, IN, MN, IL IL 11 5 OSU, MI, MN, MSU MI 11 5 PSU, IA, PU, MSU, OSU MSU 11 5 NW, MN, IA, IN WI 11 5 PU, PSU, NW, MSU, IA IN 10 6 WI, PSU, IL, PU, MI OSU 10 6 IA, MN, WI, MSU, NW

That's how we roll. 1st place in the Big Ten. Great game boys.

Great half, really. Randle has been all over the glass, having him on the floor the whole time has been great. These guys can defend, plain and simple. Sure you can say Wisky is missing shots, but look at some of the shots we've forced them to take. This defense with our starters in is superb. Let's play another 20 solid minutes of ball and take hold of 1st outright.

Let's do this

Yeah, and turning the heat to the NCAA, not the university. They can just say "it's the ncaa, we had no choice" even though i think they all want to get rid of the Chief anyway.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) Just a few years is so far away.... Let's go Badgers, its time for a nice board meltdown. There's no way you'd see a meltdown for losing at Wisky. You want a melt down, head over to Phog every other week, meltdown city Kansas fans have no room to talk around here

Illinois @ Wisconsin tonight at 6:00 on ESPN. If there's one game that Randle has to stay out of foul trouble in it's this one. He needs to stay on the floor to guard Tucker. All Wisconsin really has on offense is Tucker and Taylor, so if Randle is out there most of the game it will help a ton. Wisconsin also doesn't shoot too many threes, so we should be able to focus on our defense inside. Dee has to have a good shooting game on the road for once (i don't count NW, not a good team/hostile environment). I expect this to be a low scoring game for sure. If we can pull out this win, we probably have a good a shot as anyone to win the Big Ten. I think we have to win one of at Wisky, at OSU, and at MSU to really have a chance to win it, and i think this is the best opportunity. A win would just be so huge. Should be a gritty game. Also, think Wilkinson's girlfriend will be constantly shown tonight even though he graduated?

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 12:04 PM) Coach Self is really showing his true colors now. Best recruiter in nation has the best field goal percentage on defense, and has installed a running system, similiar to Roy Boy's. Self's true colors were shown last year when you lost to Bucknell in the first round.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 12:06 AM) After he leads us to a national championship he can go...Maybe he will take Kareem's advice, and not Jaron's. Damn, when did Bill Self get fired?

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Jan 30, 2006 -> 11:18 PM) I don't know about that. Something tells me he stays 2. Don't be bitter now Cyclone. He's as good as gone, easy. "Something" tells you he stays? Sweet