Steff

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) Everytime there is a situation like this, it seems like Kenny is the one who gets proven right. I don't recall Frank confirming that he didn't call Kenny and Ozzie back.. as a matter of fact I specifically recall Ozzie saying he had talked to Frank several times when Kenny claimed Frank wasn't returning calls..

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 11:10 AM) WOW! OK. I see Frank's attitude with him saying that Carl can play leftfield as selfish and pontentially disruptive to the clubhouse and team chemistry. By saying that it reminds Ozzie of years past of a team attitude Frank was a part of. I think it is very relevant to bring up. He should not have said it to the public, but Frank shouldn't have either. Both were wrong and that is how we get this situation. LMAO.. Reporter: "Hey Frank.. think you'll DH full time when you come back?" Frank: "Sure" Reporter: "What should Carl do?" Frank: "Play the outfield...." Guess he could have said "send his ass packing". Selfish, IMO, is the last thing it was. It was a matter of fact opinion..

QUOTE(hi8is @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) id rather just us kick their asses score 7 runs off loushe and shut em out Ditto. A good old fashioned ass whoopin... shut them down and score a dozen

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) Steff, I am sure Ozzie is not told exactly everything that happened. I am sure the reporter was trying to start s*** and he said something that ticked Ozzie off. Being selfish will always tick Ozzie off. If the reporter explained to Ozzie the way it was written and explained to us, then I can see why Ozzie would get upset. I also can't see why Frank can't just say it is not his decision to make. That he will play when and wherever he is asked to. I know you love Frank. I love Frank too. I jst think they are both wrong for what they said and I think both situations are being blown out of proportion bythe press. I understand your point of view, but I think both are at fault here. No one is more at fault than the other. Wouldn't you agree? No.. I don't think last year has anything to do with this year.. and I don't think the public needs to know the details of things that go on in the clubhouse.. and I don't think we need to know who's an ass and who isn't. If this was just about Frank's comment/suggestion on where to play Carl when he returns I have no issue. My issue is not with Ozzie saying "I make the line-up" and thumping his chest.. I have a problem with him offering information about crap that was last year. JMO...

QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:56 AM) Haha, I was just wondering the same thing... Intros?? I dont even know why they even have intros, this isnt professional wrestling.. Don't get me wrong.. I like the "Sox fans.. on your feet...." stuff.. but it doesn't consume me and I forget about it the minute the first pitch is thrown. I didn't even remember that Thurderstruck was missing from opening day... I missed Dave's "neeexxxtttttt" more.

Jim and watched this over the weekend.. hated, hated, hated it. Hated the violence, hated BBT's bosses and the shady s*** behind the scenes. Hated the ending.. ugh.. I just hated it. For those of you that play(ed) HS football.. is it really that rough? I was a cheerleader at Richards when we went to state back in the '90's and I don't remember it being like that and we were pretty close with the team.

QUOTE(mreye @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:50 AM) Nobody has brought this up yet, so I will. What started this was Frank saying he expects to play every day. On it's face, that sounds like he wants to make the lineup card. I think he just means that he'll be in such great shape that Ozzie won't have any choice than to play him everyday. The reporter followed up with: "What will Everett do?" Then Ozzie should have just addressed that and not brought up year old crap.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:41 AM) Wow, everyone has told me their Zoo is overrated. I heard they have just as much as Brookfield......and don't have dolphin shows. I was there in 2000 and while they didn't have dolphin shows they had a cool interactive thing where you could pet them. The one thing I liked was that the exhibits were all wide open and close. They timed animal feedings so that the animals were out when people were there. And it's just visually more pretty, IMO. A ton of landscaping. They really took care of the place.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:41 AM) tonight contreras is in simi-high pressure big game... this year jose has 1 dominant start and 1 simi-dominant start....will the trend continue?? will he mow em down and eat some twinkies for dinner? or will he throw up the game? LMAO.. Jim and I both said on the way in this morning.. "hope Jose doesn't pee himself tonight.. " I think he'll be fine. It's going to be a great crowd and he'll get support.

Pffftt.. position round at bowling tonight. If we weren't in a 3 way tie I would blow it off.

QUOTE(Nokona @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) In all reality, i think that the phrase was taken out of context. Ozzie was just saying that everything's been bad lately and Frank was seen as the leader of said team. He's saying that Frank did little to change that. I'm sure it was... what is sticking with me is mentioning last year at all. It's the past.. let it go. I hate when crap comes up from the past. It has no purpose in the media. JMO..

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 07:19 PM) California Question, Part Deux... Has anyone ever been to San Diego, because im tentatively planning a trip to check out the Sox while they are down there...1. Does this sound like a good idea? 2. Should I plan on my entire week there or should I take a drive out someplace else while im down there? Thanks and Chisoxfn I'm expecting a response from you!! I've been twice and I loved it. Loved, loved, LOVED the zoo... You should try to get to LA also. Catch an Angels game. The stadium is really nice.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:15 AM) Not to split hairs, but we all know that Frank likes to ignore his phone, and not return calls. Says Kenny...

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:14 AM) Look at it like this. If I was spending 200 million dollars on a team that was 4-8 I'd be a little pissed too. Me too.. but I'd call them in and take care of business in private. I just don't see where any of those comments or meeting do anything for the game or the fans relationship with the players by being made public. Just something that's always gotten under my skin.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:07 AM) Even though he's right? That's opinion.. but IMO, I don't ever think that whining to the media does any good. Makes him look like a baby, IMO. Like Steinbrenner issuing that statement this weekend about the Yankees sucking.. Umm.. hello.. maybe call your manager and players and tell them they are sucking to their face..?

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:08 AM) If Ozzie thinks he was a problem last year, he might think that unless he says something Frank will be a problem this year. Ozzie says weird s***, and that's all I can think of. IF.. and IMO that's a big "if", that's the deal.. maybe he should talk to Frank about it and not the media.. I'm sure he's got his phone #...

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 10:03 AM) 'more attendance = more money = better team = more exposure = sox fans can quit b****ing Don't forget the manager.. so the manager can stop b****ing .. LOL

Duly noted.. Me.. I just don't see the point in b****ing and whining about not getting media coverage.. Boo hoo... manage the team and stop crying about the unfair media treatment. JMO..

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 09:59 AM) I'm not in the clubhouse so I have no idea what Ozzie considered bad. The team is doing well now without Frank. When Frank gets back, 2 people are going to be out of a job. Someone is off the 25 man roster and Carl or Dye or whomever become part time players. So much of what they've done has been everyone playing together, and winning together. Frank wants to win, he wants that ring, but in my opinion what's being said here is Frank is gonna have to be a team player and maybe be the one who rides the pine from time to time. I think the general opinion is that when Frank gets back he's the everyday starter at DH, looks to me like Ozzie whether he is right or wrong has a different idea. OK.. so what does all that have to do with last year and why would Ozzie feel the need to tell the media that Frank was a part of the attitude problem last year..??

Mike... What happens at SF stays at SF...

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 09:47 AM) I don't view it as an attack myself, maybe that's where I'm wrong. If Frank comments on this situation, I think we both know what the result is going to be. I don't think this is going to be an issue amongst the players at this point. If he was rejoining the team, then I could see everyone asking how is he going to fit back in. Did you miss the part of the article where Ozzie said "Frank was a big part of the bad attitude last year".. what exactly does that have to do with where he fits in when he comes back THIS YEAR..??

QUOTE(mreye @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 09:43 AM) That may be the root of the problem right there. I think we have a winner..

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Apr 18, 2005 -> 09:18 AM) I don't have a problem with what he said. An unsolicited attack of a player who's not even in the area to defend himself...? So you'd be ok with being called names without the means to defend yourself..? It's almost like Ozzie can't deal with no drama around him. Winning isn't enough for him.. he's got to rock the boat. Now tonight all the guys are going to be asked about is this bulls***. Not "Hey.. you're in a tie with Minnesota for the division lead" which is what should be the topic..

Win and you'll get all the press you what.. even you, Ozzie, you media whore.

So glad I only care about the wins and losses.. I would go absolutely batty if I worried about half the stupid crap complained about...