Steff

LMAO... Wind must have changed directions.. :rolly

QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 01:12 PM) I guess not. Of course not.. blame others and not the mf'er responsible. For some reason I imagine "not me" being a staple in that household...

So if he didn't work at the school, and likely never even laid eyes on her there, she would be alive..? No chance that maybe it had something to do with the fact that he was a CHILD MOLESTOR... Good grief...

I concern myself with posting facts and proof to back those facts up. You continue - as evident in the Terry thread - to s*** on those that don't share your opinion. That's evident in the majority of your posts. Stalking you.. naa.. but I do enjoy pointing out your bulls*** just like I would do with anyone else who posted lies and s*** on others and acted like a self serving hypocrite, which I have done in the past. Call me names then try to be considerate.. more hypocritical behavior.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) You need professional help. The only part my post got wrong was the capacity he worked at in the school. That's not bs. That's a mistake. A counselor can help you with your need to be they way you are. That's a pretty big mistake to s*** on the school board and their proceedures when you fail to do what you attempted to s*** on them for. That he was a teacher was not reported... not anywhere but in your mind. And you go on an keep trying to s*** on and shooting the personal attacks at me... proves what ss2k5 and kap said about you yesterday to be true.

I went there for a football game years ago... don't really recall it being any worse than some other places I've been. I tend to go places for specific reasons, so I wasn't expecting anything other than seeing the game. I know people who go on vacation to places with no real idea of what they are going to see or do. I never really understood that concept..

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) Regardless I am curious as to the source so I am looking for it. Don't bother, there isn't one. I looked BEFORE I called your bs out.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 09:12 PM) Can you believe that during the process of his being hired as a contract teacher no one at FL board of education did a background check? No one in the teacher's union bothered to check him out either? Spiff.. this is what pissed me off... the nerve to say they didn't check their facts.. then not check facts and s*** on the school board. It's stupid, irresponsible, and hypocritical.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 12:12 PM) If any one has a link supporting the belief that parents & family are allowed bedside during this ordeal please post it. I've not been able to find it. The parents continue to report on her state of decline so one can infer they are allowed into her room. But whether they allowed bedside to where Terri can see or hear them is something entirely different. Intelligence would tell you Terri has limited sense recognition if any at all. That means unless you are allowed close enough to where she can feel your presence it's as if your not there at all. Her sister out of her own mouth with her husband standibng by her side via satellite on GMA said it. That's better than a misreported bulls*** link, IMO.

Alright.. supply the link and I'll stop calling you a liar.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) Sheesh, calm down. It was an honest mistake. Spiff... for someone who claimed to follow this there is no way it was an honest mistake. That he was a teacher was simply not reported.. not possible.

Yea.. I'm a nightmare because I don't tolerate bulls*** and lies. You don't have s*** to back up your bulls***.. it was reported the FIRST DAY that he was a "person of interest" that he had a criminal record, had violated probation, held odd temp jobs because he did NOT have a HS DIPLOMA... You claimed to have followed that story, but you don't know that..? That was all they kept saying as they played the video footage of him in the bar in Georgia.. Yet you want to claim that a week after they knew he didn't have a HS diploma that they would report he was a teacher.. GMAFB.

Bulls***.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 11:25 AM) No one is allowed near the bedside. Go look it up. Yea.. ok. I'll believe her sister over you and your lies.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 11:22 AM) I'll have to go look at your BULLs*** in that thread & dissprove it like I do every other thread because you F'g can't read! But you're action of posting a comment in this thread pertaining to your opinion in that thread is one of I would associate with a person I would consider an obnoxious piece of garbage in my opinion with a vindictive & mallicious nature. There's no f***ing logical reason one would do it outside of spite. Now I'll go look at the BULLs*** you wrote there & go find evidence to prove you wrong again. Do yourself a favor & save my time. Put me on your ignore list. He isn't a f***ing teacher... he doesn't even have a HS diploma!!!

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) And her husband. And her parents. Who have unlimited access. And her sister and her husband.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 11:15 AM) A person who is shut out from her family & friends & can only see guards around her is feeling abandonment. Not humiliation. Her sister was on GMA this morning saying that they (her, and her parents) had just spent most of the overnight with her.

Bumping this so Jug can read the correction to the BULLs*** LIES he posted.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 11:09 AM) Typical bulls*** by the typical people who feel a need to post it :rolly I said both FOX & MSNBC. Perhaps MSNBC is not a reputable source either for you. FOX - is covering this from the FL perpsective MSNBC - is focusing much more on the Vatican perspective I'm specifically referring to the Jessica Lundstrom thread in which you post total BULLs*** about Couhey being a teacher and having contact with Jessica. You do this over and over again.. posting BULLs*** WITHOUT checking facts or altering them to fit your BULLs*** beliefs. You're credibility is BULLs***.

QUOTE(sec159row2 @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 09:20 AM) JUG... fox news..??? fair and balanced :puke Jug apparently has a problem finding reputable accurate information..

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 11:34 PM) Basically if I was in Terri's case I would want to die. That's exactly, and all, I have been saying.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 08:29 PM) I don't think Steff was saying we should have all people on feeding tubes pulled, but she can correct me if I'm wrong on that... You're correct.. I don't think that.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 07:33 PM) Steff said that because Terri needs a feeding tube Terri is on life support... No Tex.. I said that I would not want to be on LS, and to ME a feeing tube in her, as opposed to Chris Reeves, condition is LS.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 09:12 PM) It's worth updating this thread. Get ready for a shocker. Couhey (arrested 26 times) actually held a teaching role in that county & had come in contact with Jessica as a 3rd grader. My God... No.. he was not a teacher. http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/22/Citrus/S...ed_at_Jes.shtml Suspect worked at Jessica's school His job at Homosassa Elementary gave him access to students. It is unknown whether he had contact with Jessica. By COLLINS CONNER and BARBARA BEHRENDT, Times Staff Writers Published March 22, 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOMOSASSA - For five months, convicted sex offender John Evander Couey worked as a mason's helper at Homosassa Elementary School, where 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford attended class. A mason on the job said Couey had direct contact with students and teachers during the project, though it was unknown whether he had contact with Jessica. Before that, Couey, who was formally arrested Monday in connection with Jessica's death, worked on the Crystal River Middle School remodeling project. "Oh, my God," said School Board member Ginger Bryant. "I can't believe he ever set foot on any of our school sites. I feel yucky. I'm ready to throw up." Jessica's family could not be reached for comment. But the news of Couey's employment came as a shock to Homosassa residents. "How can they allow a pedophile to work on two schools?" said Diane Toto, president of the Homosassa Civic Club. "There is something seriously wrong with the law." There is no law that bars laborers with criminal histories from school construction sites. And there is no state or district requirement that contractors screen laborers before hiring them for school construction projects. The only thing the state checks is whether an employee owes back child support, said the two contractors who hired Couey for the campus work. Builder R.E. Graham, the contractor at Homosassa Elementary, said Couey listed on his employment application that he had been arrested in the past for writing bad checks. Couey worked in Homosassa Elementary's cafeteria building from January to April 2004, Graham said. "He never worked in the remodeling of the school, so he shouldn't have been around any of the children," Graham said. "He worked on my side of the fence." But mason Giles Cannon, who worked with Couey at both schools, said Graham was mistaken. Couey did work in areas where students were present, Cannon said. Graham "wasn't there," he said. "He wouldn't have known." At Crystal River Middle, Couey worked for Pyramid Masonry Contractors from August 2003 to January 2004, when he walked off the job, said Keith Sommer, regional vice president of Pyramid. "I never actually met the guy," Sommer said. "Until right now, I didn't know he worked for us." Pyramid's project superintendent, Steve Kinzie, said Couey and all other workers on the school site were separated from students by a fence. "We were told - and we told them (the workers) - not to speak to students or faculty," Kinzie said. "Nobody was near the fence. The construction company was real stern about that. They strongly enforced that. They enforced it with us, and we, in turn, enforced it on our employees." School superintendent Sandra "Sam" Himmel said she didn't know of any government agency that screens all construction workers on a school job site. She said she would ask School Board attorney Richard "Spike" Fitzpatrick to look into the issue. In the Pasco school district, the bid documents include a statement to be signed by contractors that "they have verified that no one who will be on our school property has been convicted of" sex offenses or myriad other crimes, said Kendra Goodman, the district's purchasing agent. At Homosassa, Cannon said, Couey and he worked in the new media center. "Off and on, we would go to the library, and every time we were there we were mixed with students and teachers," Cannon said. The faculty and students were carrying supplies into the media center while the final construction continued, Cannon said. "And then, when we went into the (old buildings being renovated), Couey was there in the beginning of that. And we mixed with students and teachers," Cannon said. "We were through the whole building" when students were present. Couey "said he was in jail, but he said it was all from drinking and driving and stuff like that," Cannon said. But even that record would have barred him from working on a Pennsylvania school construction site, said Cannon, a Pennsylvania native. "Up North, if you have anything (on your record), you can't work at a school," Cannon said. "They do FBI checks and the regular (local) checks. "That's why they have the prevailing wage up North - to get the right people to do everything." According to the Pennsylvania Department of Education, only construction workers who have "direct contact with students" must have a criminal background check and a child abuse history clearance. But, Cannon said, contractors "don't want to take the chance," so they screen every worker. "They do it at every job I've been at," Cannon said, "whether the workers are going to be with kids or not." Cannon said many of the workers he met on the school job sites talked about having criminal records. "You hear it here, there and everywhere," Cannon said. Cannon said he laid Couey off because he was "giving us a hard time with everything he did." "He wasn't all there, mentally," Cannon said. "He was kind of going off the wall." Its really worth checking the facts... :headshake

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 06:21 PM) I lost a brother to drunk driving, don't you think that has an effect on my opinions on drunk driving? The father who lost a son to steroids, don't you think that has an effect on his opinion of steroids? Don't you think having a child effects your opinion on a parents role? I don't believe you are saying she should die because she requires a feeding tube. Well.. I don't have any tolerance for drunk drivers and people who use illegal dugs... yet I have no kids. And no.. I'm not saying that. I have not made a conclusion one way or the other. I am stuck on her right.. not her life. I have no interest in playing God.