Steff

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 05:10 PM) I really believe that having kids changes opinions on this. Steff, Wino, ChiSoxy, and Queen are all kidless. Trust me things change when you have kids. Emotions and attachments are different. I know I would have argued to let the husband make the decision 18 years ago. I respect the point you are making, and I'm sure it's valid for some.. but I don't agree with it one bit and I don't think it's fair to generalize the responses of those that do not have children.

No. Doesn't matter to me. It's my opinion that he's doing what she asked. That's all it boils down to.. her request and who I believe when that request is stated. I don't believe her parents or her sister. And no I don't believe the comment about him calling her a b****.

Good grief.. I'm done. Enough child's play for one day.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 05:02 PM) You did! A free lunch at the Westchester IHOP!!!! Hmmm... how about a beer at Broadview Bowl on Monday night instead... ??

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 05:02 PM) Why not?? Guys bring flowers in for girls all the time at my school. Really.. wow. Showing my age I guess. Remember guys.. I'm an old hag.

QUOTE(T R U @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 04:58 PM) I put a rose in a girls locker with a note that said "Will you go to Prom with me" and that was money I didn't get from his posts that this was a female he might have locker access to..

He's gotta ask her out somewhere to ask her to go... right? I would not recommend bringing flowers to school..

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 04:52 PM) I do not recall the original post but I will concede this point: I think I just won a prize...

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) Here's a question, do you think she would rather have her ex-husband making a life or death decision, or her parents? Can anyone really claim he is married to her in anyway but in a legal sense? All I can say is that at the time that was who she wanted making her decisions.. for 7 years he did everything he could for her until he was told that she would never get better.. with that in mind (that she was never going to get better) he continued to fight for what (he claims) she wanted (not to be on LS). At any time, it's my opinion, he could have walked away from this and went on to live life with his girlfriend (btw... his lawyer claims they are not engaged) and children. He hasn't done that choosing to continue to deal with this.. For me, that speaks volumes. But maybe I'm just stupid to think that there are people out there who love unconditionally and will do things out of the goodness of their heart no matter how much pain it causes them in their own lives. Keeping promises is important to me.. guess I expect that is so for others as well.

QUOTE(T R U @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 04:38 PM) Well all I can really tell you is to get some flowers or some bulls*** girls like.. that will be a plus.. LMAO... Dr. Love..

QUOTE(T R U @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 04:34 PM) Also, in that picture you have.... come on man, get a haircut.. you need to look clean Ditto on this point.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) She moves her eyes and body and can make noise. My understanding from listening to Doctors is that requires brain activity. Low level, but brain activity. And I read that they are just involuntary reflexes.. everyone has an opinion I guess.

Speaking of Mississippi.... Grounds for Divorce in Mississippi Part of "Grounds for Divorce in the United States" Family Law research by Anke Tiedt of Crouch & Crouch, Arlington, Virginia - irreconcilable differences only on joint complaint or uncontested petition after process service (parties must make adequate provision for custody and maintenance of children and for settlement of property rights or if unable to agree must consent in writing to allow court to decide issues) - natural impotency - adultery (unless there was collusion or condonation) - sentence to penitentiary (unless pardoned before being sent there) - desertion for one year - habitual drunkenness - habitual excessive use of drugs - habitual cruel and inhuman treatment - insanity or idiocy at time of marriage (unknown to complaining party) - prior marriage undissolved - pregnancy by person other than husband at time of marriage (unknown to husband) - consanguinity within prohibited degrees - incurable insanity, if insane party has been under regular treatment and confined in an institution for proceeding three years Code: 93-5-1 et seq.

Ugh.. Winn doubles scores Santiago.. 6-4..

Bla.. 5-4 M's..

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) Who's paid for Shiavo's care for the last 15 years? If they didn't have the money, wouldn't they have pulled the plug years ago? Who's funding all of these legal proceedings? FWIU she is covered by Medicade. Expenses not covered by that have been paid for out of the $700K she got from a lawsuit in the early 90's. IIRC.. there's about $300K remaining of that $$.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 03:59 PM) QUOTE: Steff Sorry but I'm not a mind reader and I can only comment on the bs you post that I can see with my eyes and not assume that you mean something else other than what you actually posted. Adultry as a grounds for divorce is NOT on the books in 22 states. As I can only comment on the non-sensical & utterly inconsequential bs & drivel that you post. I stil fail to see where you have proven any where at all where adultery is not sufficient grounds to sue for divorce in all 50 states. That's all I said in my original post & you don't have to be a mind reader to understand that. But you do have to possess a fairly reasonable understanding of the english language & logic in the use of words :rolly Sorry Jugger.. I can't help you comprehend the words of the laws any more than posting them for you. It's your choice to read them and interprete them for what they are... you obviously choose not to do that. You said it was a law.. I said it was not.. I posted factual evidence to show you that "adultry" is NOT grounds for divorce in 22 states. You either accept it.. or argue about it.. You do the same thing with every issue, with every person, who questions you and your posts. It's a shame because sometimes you actually have good points.. but those get lost when you choose to act like a 2 year old.

LOL.. ^ AJ 2 out double..

Holy crap... http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art.../503220347/1134 Governor Tries Different Angle on Schiavo Jeb Bush would have her husband ousted as guardian; experts say that may do little. By Joe Follick Ledger Tallahassee Bureau TALLAHASSEE -- Gov. Jeb Bush is pushing state lawmakers toward a new scheme to intervene in the Terri Schiavo dilemma, touting a plan to oust her husband from the role as her guardian. Bush's new effort echoes a long-aired lament from fervent advocates for Schiavo to be kept alive. The argument: Michael Schiavo's new life with a girlfriend and two small children leaves him unqualified to oversee what he and numerous courts have ruled was her wish to not be kept alive in her current state. "If someone is living with their loved one and has two children and their spouse is in this situation they have a serious conflict of interest," Bush told reporters Monday morning. "I think our state ought to change our laws to say that in those circumstances, that the guardian needs to be changed." But state lawmakers, both for and against intervening again in the controversy, said it appeared there was not a will to do so right now. Bush said the change would relate to the Schiavo situation. But many legal experts and lawmakers have said that because Michael Schiavo allowed the court to make the final decision to remove his wife's feeding tube, changing the guardian might have little or no impact on the current situation. Despite the extraordinary intervention of Congress and President Bush this weekend that led to a law requiring a federal court review of the Schiavo case, Gov. Jeb Bush insisted the state must still address the matter after abandoning the effort last week. "I'm deeply disappointed in the actions taken by the Senate last week," Gov. Bush said. "That doesn't mean that there's a finality to this." It would be the third time lawmakers have made a run at intervening. In 2003, the state rushed "Terri's Law" through, allowing Bush to order the restart of her feeding. The state's Supreme Court tossed the law as unconstitutional last year. Last week, House lawmakers approved a bill that would have required feeding of people in vegetative states unless there had been explicit directions left to the contrary. But the Senate rejected a narrower measure 16-21 that would have required a court to decide whether a person had expressed a clear refusal of "sustenance and hydration" if they entered a vegetative state. Sen. Dan Webster, R-Winter Garden, was the sponsor of the Senate bill. He said Monday that he doubts the Senate would support any Schiavo-related legislation. "I would suspect it would be the same," he said when asked how a vote on interceding on the behalf of Schiavo's parents would fare in the Senate. Webster also said that while Michael Schiavo should abandon his role as his wife's guardian, he wasn't sure it would have any effect on the maintenance of her feeding since the courts have found she would not want it. Bush spoke Monday with Webster and the sponsor of the House measure, Rep. Dennis Baxley, R-Ocala. Baxley said the House was at the mercy of the Senate in moving forward. Opposition to the plan last week in the Senate centered on a group of nine Republicans who voted against Webster's plan. The leader was former Senate President Jim King, R-Jacksonville, who said he'd not heard of any new effort. "If there's a plan, I haven't talked to anyone who has one," said King, who added that he thinks the Senate is finished with the topic. "I think Terri is better off in heaven than in that bed," King said. "It's going to be the will of God." The fallout from last week's vote kept coming this weekend and on Monday, with protesters filling the Capitol, pleading with senators to intervene. Capitol security evicted several protesters who posed as speakers on unrelated bills in various committees before veering into a speech about maintaining Schiavo's feeding. Ugly messages were left with lawmakers. Sen. Nancy Argenziano, R-Dunnellon, said one letter came from a self-identified Christian who "prayed" for Argenziano to die a painful death with stomach cancer. Sen. Rod Smith, D-Alachua, said one caller to his office said, "I'm a Christian, and I hope you will die in your own vomit." Smith, a former state lawyer who has sentenced men to death, said he's been called a killer before from death row opponents, adding that the threats and rallies haven't affected him or his fellow senators. "I don't want to revisit it, the people around me don't want to revisit it," Smith said, calling last week's vote "a plain statement that the Florida Senate does not belong" in the issue. Sen. Ron Klein (D-Boca Raton) grimaced when he was told that Christian groups compared the nine GOP senators who opposed last week's bill to Pontius Pilate. "That is extremely offensive," he said. "This has become a political issue as opposed to a spiritual issue. The radical wing of the Republican Party has taken control of the issue, and those are the people who are whipping up the masses. It's tragic. It turns your stomach." King said the Schiavo matter shouldn't be a GOP litmus test. "We're being painted as some sort of counter-productive (group)," he said of the nine Republicans who voted against the bill last week. "All we're doing is what we think is our right, our duty, not necessarily as Republicans but as human beings." Those Bush's have balls...

Wow.. he's got 6 K's...

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 03:35 PM) Would there be any pending financial claim that Michael would have to forfeit if he divorced her? Supposedly there are no more pending suits.. and they did not have LI at the time of the incident. They also did not own a home. The guy was offered $10 million to sign her over to her folks.. that's a lot of scratch... and, IMO, something someone who was only out for $$ would find very hard to resist. Maybe, just maybe, this is what she really wanted and he wants to be sure she gets her final wish..

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 02:55 PM) I'm just saying that his ego drives him and if he thinks he can no longer perform up to "Bonds" standards, he may choose to never play again rather than go out struggling. I never said he wouldn't be a hall of famer. Ahh.. sorry.

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 03:25 PM) If this was about a marriage ending, why would he fight for her right to die for seven years? He could have just walked away. Period. B-I-N-G-O.... and Bingo was his name-o....

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 03:25 PM) Go ahead and wait for it. Yeah, there is a lot of secrecy. I even read a ledgend involving ashes and smoke or something, anyone? Hmmmm... ashes & smoke.. wonder if there's any swinging going on at that meeting. Off to hell with me... :rolly