Felix

HE GAWN!

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) Actually...I wasn't quoting the game broadcast. Family guy

juan uribe

He really needs to be benched.

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOARD!!!!1

AARON f***ING ROWAND

ROYALS!!!111 I LOVE YOU ROYALS!!1

RALLY CREDE!!!!1

Rally Crede time!

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 01:08 PM) Pods, LF ... Iguchi, 2B ... Rowand, CF ... Konerko, 1B ... Dye, RF ... Everett, DH ... AJ, C ... Crede, 3B ... Uribe, SS ... Buehrle, LHP. Bears Fan Aaron Rowand was decked out in Bears apparel before the game. With batting practice cancelled because of the rain (players hit under the stands in our cages), guys sat and watched the Bears/Bengals game. Rowand lives and dies with the Bears. I like this lineup. Alot.

@ CWSGuy406 So is A-Rod not in his prime? Or how about Vlad, since he'll be 30 next year too? Or how about Ortiz, who'll be 30 next year?

Lets go boys, take home this series

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 08:32 AM) And I think you worry too much about HR's but thats your opinion and neither of us are going to switch sides. I normally wouldnt worry about HR's, but removing 3 of our top 6 HR hitters and replacing them with people with much less power worries me. If this idea was brought up earlier this year, I would probably agree with you in replacing Crede and Uribe, but now that they are heating up, their previous months are being covered up in my mind. We'll see how they do in the postseason though. For now, I agree to disagree

QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 08:19 AM) It doesn't matter where he hit in the line up, even if he hit 9th, he should of knocked in the winning run in the 9th inning against the Twins the first game, he choked, but has picked it up the last 2 games. Lets hope he continues to do it the rest of the year. And he won the game the other day with his 3-run HR..

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 08:17 AM) Well the only problem with that is Konerko is making almost 9 million this off-season and with the weak class of f/a coming up he is going to make a lot of money. Im thinking at least 12 million and I dont know about you but to me Konerko isnt worth that. Meanwhile go look at Overbay and Tracy's contracts they are making hardly anything. He's worth that and then some to me, but hey, I'm foolish at times. The major problem I have with Furcal batting 2nd is ego. I dont really know if he has a huge ego or anything, but if he does, it won't work out. In Ozzie's lineup, the #2 hitter has to give up alot of AB's, something Iguchi has been willing to do so far this year. In the past 3 years, Mueller's OPS has dropped. Granted, some of his other numbers havent really dropped, but OPS dropping is a bit worrisome. (even though its just a slight difference in the last 2 years)

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 12:20 AM) Since the inception of the Rally Crede, Rally Crede has put up some impressive numbers. .390 BA 4 HR 5 R 7 RBI Since the beginning of September, Rally Crede has put up some impressive numbers .415 BA .467 OBP .805 SLG 9 R 4 HR 9 RBI

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 07:52 AM) That's way too small of a sample size to get a read on someone. If Denny Green started Marcel Shipp over him, you know Arrington's not ready. If he actually got touches, we would see how good he is.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 07:38 AM) I think its pretty clear that the Cardinals werent ready to make their run this year but everyone just overhyped them including myself. Although I do like Dennis Green and what he is doing to that team and they will make an impact in that division soon. JJ Arrington hasnt been what they were hoping for in a RB it seems though. I agree with you about them being overhyped, and I overhype them (I continue to be stubborn and pick them each week to win), but Arrington has only run the ball 4 times, and has 22 yards, which is 5.5 yards per carry. If he actually got touches, we would see how good he is.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 07:31 AM) Well yes but Furcal is there for batting in the top of the order too. Something Uribe cant do because he is inconsistent his cold stretches are 2 bad for him to be batting that high in the lineup. So Furcal is a defense and offensive upgrade. Again, from what I know, Furcal isnt that big a defensive upgrade, and his offense isnt anything to excited about either. Then consider the millions of dollars that differ the two player's salary, and I personally dont think its worth it. I'm not pointing out his age because of the long term answer reason, I'm pointing it out because at one point, he will stop performing the way he has been, and it could be next year. And I dont think spending 5 million on him is smart there's the risk he will stop performing. I was looking at ZR too, I pointed it out in my post that Overbay's was better than Paulies. I'm all for acquiring Overbay/Tracy as a DH and keeping Paulie at 1b, or vice-versa, but to replace Paulie with Overbay/Tracy doesnt click in my head.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 24, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) You'd pay Paul Konerko $18 million, but wouldn't pay Bill Mueller $2.5 million -- for one year? Are you kidding? :banghead Konerko is, what, 29? Bill Mueller is 34. Konerko is in his prime. Mueller is leaving his prime. And again, I said I would pay Konerko that if LAAAAA offered $15/5, not right away. I would originally offer Paulie something like $12/4 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 12:06 AM) And why on earth would you bat Furcal 9th, who would end up being your biggest FA signing(and probably one of the most expensive signings period, which he will not be worth BTW, thank you Philadelphia and Jimmy Rollins), yet your 1-3 hitters will probably make half of that, possibly? Your 9th hitter is a second leadoff hitter. He's not your worst hitter. Pods has a higher OBP and is far more consistant than Furcal.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 07:13 AM) Felix I dont know if you watch national league baseball or hell any baseball outside of the whitesox but part of the defense would be adding Furcal at SS who is widely thought of a better defender than Uribe and he is one of the few guys who has a better arm than Uribe. I dont watch the NL, but for the prices that Uribe and Furcal cost, I would rather Uribe. I'm not saying Furcal is a bad player. Mueller is old.. how long can he keep it up? Strictly by the numbers, Konerko has the highest range factor out of any 1b in the AL, and 3rd in the MLB. On the other hand, Lyle Overbay has the worst range factor in the MLB. Paulie has a lower zone rating than Overbay does, but Overbay has committed more errors this year than Paulie has. Downgrading both defensively and offensively doesnt make sense to me.

Yea, I realize it, but when comparing Konerko and Overbay, I would rather Konerko's 40 HR and 25 2b than Overbay's 20 HR and 35 2b. Then again, adding Tracy would even it out. Another problem I have with this deal is the defense. This deal takes alot away from our defense, and this team is built around pitching and defense. Without Crede and Uribe at SS and 3b, we would probably allowed alot more runs/hits this year (depending on who is in their place), and Konerko is great at picking balls out of the dirt. From what I know, which isnt much, Overbay and Tracy are DH's if they were in the AL. Also, if they do add Furcal, he should hit 9th, not 2nd. Iguchi is perfect for the #2 spot, rather than the #3 spot.

go rally crede!

QUOTE(JediMaster @ Sep 24, 2005 -> 10:12 PM) Do you always triple post the same thing??? Sorry i dont like you for being a jackass and disrespectful in the thread about August 1st and the Boy scout picture! I dont care what you say to me but dont say or posting anything bout family dude that is low and rude! er.. he only posted it once. I posted it twice (not sure how, I must have refreshed or something), and just deleted one of them.

Crede knocks in more runs, but I do agree with you that he has been getting "one more year" too much, but this latest month has really gotten me thinking about Crede's true skill. I would think about Mueller, but if I would have to pay him $2.5 million in free agency, I wouldnt do it. If it was a much lower salary, I would probably end up doing it and using both Crede and him over at 3rd.