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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 11:52 AM) Sure I did. And what you all tell me is it didn't happen... right? As I said, the next major one state delegate count is Texas, IIRC. Mar 4. I'll be voting Democrat that day. On that note, for you Texans on the board... how do you think Obama and Clinton will play there? My wild guess is that Obama would do well in north and central texas, and the major cities, while Clinton will do better in the border areas south and west, and in eastern Texas. Does that sound about right?

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 11:26 PM) Because he is. So is the entire Democratic Party. Now, let me be clear. It's not "socialist" like "communist", but it certainly is socialist when you: want government health care continue to grow government control on damn near everything that breathes let's expand government entitilements on everything we can (sense a theme yet?) Again, why does the government have to take care of us? It should be us taking care of ourselves. Oh wait, I forgot, no one wants personal responsibility anymore, that's Uncle Sam's job. Hyperbole much? Seriously Kap, the Dems are not SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO far to the left of the GOP that you can call them socialist. In fact, looking at the way independent voters have moved towards the Dems in recent year, I tend to agree with them that it is the Republicans that have moved further from center. As I said in here a couple years ago, I think the rise of the neo-con, Christian Coalition drivers of the GOP has peaked, and is now receding. The party has come to realize they abandoned a significant part of their previous base - fiscal conservatives - in favor of their social agenda. And that hasn't worked well for them at all. So, we now see McCain likely to win the nomination. And I say... good! He's a heck of a lot better than any of the other goons the GOP ran out there in this race. I liked three people in this thing: Richardson, Obama and McCain (all for different reasons, though). If I get two of those three to choose from in November, I'll be pretty happy. That will be the best choice set I've seen in my lifetime.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 11:36 AM) As an Obama supporter, I would declare this a tie. there are positives on both sides. Hillary needed a knockout blow to slow him down and this isnt it. He won CT and was competitive in AZ, NM, and CA. Remember, MOST of these states had Hillary +20 or 30 2 weeks ago. In the most narrow literal sense (pledged delegates), it was a Clinton victory, just barely. But overall, looking at how things are lined up this month, I think this plays as an Obama victory. By the time we get through the next few rounds, I think Obama will be back on top again in delegates, and Clinton will be on her heels. Next few races (pledged delegates at stake)... February 9th: Washington (78) Louisiana (56) Nebraska (24) February 10th: Maine (24) February 12th: Virginia (83) Maryland (70) D.C. (15) February 19th: Wisconsin (74) Hawaii (20) That's it for Feb - but that is another 450-ish delegates. Looking at the DEMOCRAT voters in those states, I think Obama has a slight overall edge. But then again, demographics keep shifting with these two. And in open primaries, independents will lean towards Obama, from what the polls indicate.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 11:33 AM) Was Kennedy really a great president? With all the comparisons, I keep thinking that he wasn't that awesome. But the myth we've built up around Kennedy has overtaken his actual presidential legacy. Or am I off base here? I've heard a wiiiiiiiide variety of opinions on that. On balance, I think he was a pretty good President. But he certainly wasn't the mythical beast that he sometimes cast as. At least, not from the current view, looking at what he did and did not do. Of course, he also didn't have as much chance to do what he could, as others, because of his short time in office. Maybe someone like Tex who voted for him could tell you more.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 11:26 AM) He hates Obama. So you all think Obama "won" last night? I've read most of what you've said in this thread. I can't see it, with Hillarity winning all the big states. It depends on your definition of "win", which is why I earlier put that word in quotes... --If by "win" you mean number of pledged delegates won today... well, Obama is ahead, but Clinton will likely just pass him when all the dust settles - so that's her win. --If by "win" you mean staying in the overall pledged delegate lead, then Obama won. --If by "win" you mean number of states, Obama won. --If by "win" you mean who did best against expectaions, then Obama won. Its all perspective. But I think even you, Kap, have to say, Obama is doing better than most anyone expected at this point. Didn't you say he'd get rocked on SDOGPEIT?

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 10:39 AM) you guys can steal the pic from my sig if you want... could be fun to keep organized so we can all track with each other. (great thread btw, Tex) Done. I just noticed, some of you folks already started things. I guess I have some catching up to do. Should I put a sub-title on this thread - Soxtalk Biggest Loser?

He's really not very good, most of the time... he's the biggest homer I've heard in that role... he's getting senile... and some of those character-calls he does are like nails on a chalkboard (the home run call, and all those folksy southern affectations that have no place in Chicago). And yet, I just can't bring myself to really dislike the guy. As others here have said, he really is a big part of the modern era of White Sox baseball.

According to RealPolitics, Obama has a slight lead at this point in pledged delegates - 696-688. But that is with only PART of California in there (about half), with a 50 delegate lead for Clinton. If things continue as is, she will probably just sneak past Obama in pledged delegates. Looking at the next few rounds, Obama has a pretty big advantage. Plus he doesn't have money issues, and he's perceived in the press as having "won" last night.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 12:09 AM) really? Note that he was replying to the post about the storms. I think he was making a bad joke.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 11:59 PM) Yeah, but look at the sheer numbers that are turning out. Anyone voting DEM right now will likely vote DEM come the actual election. I think we will have a more unified party than most and anyone backing Obama or Hillary will vote for the other one when all is said and done. Not necessarily. Head-to-head polls suggest that McCain is currently looking better than Clinton in that matchup. Indepedents like McCain, and Clinton will galvanize the right.

OK, of the states reporting 60% plus, I read the current delegate count for the Dems being: Obama: 692 Clinton: 595 That's the delegate count WITHOUT California and New Mexico. Clinton will do well in CA, but, can she make up 100 points between those 2 states? By the way, early numbers in, Edwards may actually grab some delegates in NM.

Finally got to my hotel room here. Very tired. But, looks like either a good night for Obama. Was a great night, until California. But, with only 16% reporting, I wouldn't put a ton of stock in that one yet. Where the vote actually ends up will determine a lot. By my read, Obama won the night outside Cali. So he needs to hope to stay close there - so that he can make the day near even.

I'll be getting on a plane in about 15 minutes. I won't be able to check on this again until about 10:30pm Eastern (9:30 chicago). On the one hand, I wish I could keep tabs from the plane. On the other hand, I'll probably just miss the B.S. exit polls and tune in just in time for the first actual results.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 02:22 PM) Romney camp issues a bitter response regarding West Virginia. No links yet. Heard it live on MSNBC. QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 02:26 PM) Romney on Dole: Romney on Dole (a little later): Mitt Romney, the most consistent man in politics. The phrase "death spiral" comes to mind. I think the GOP race may be virtually over after today. McCain looks like he will be winning pretty big, and Huckabee seems to be more in McCain's camp as well.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 01:28 PM) This has to be my favorite political commercial of all time. I voted for him, but had never seen that add. Awesome.

Huckabee wins West Virginia, and all 18 delegates with it. He won 52% of the delegates in the convention-style event, Romney 47%, and McCain 1%.

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 12:15 PM) If you aren't registered with a specific political party in Illinois, can you still participate in the primaries? Illinois is an open primary, so, yes. Also, I am not even sure you CAN register a party in Illinois.

I think Obama pulls an upset in CA (if its even an upset at this point), and wins by 4. My predictions, just for fun... CA: Obama +4 (192-178) NY: Clinton +18 (137-95) IL: Obama +30 (99-54) NJ: Clinton +6 (57-50) MA: Obama +2 (47-46) GA: Obama +20 (52-35) MN: Clinton +10 (40-32) MO: Clinton +8 (39-33) TN: Clinton +12 (38-30) AZ: Clinton +4 (29-27) CO: Obama +4 (29-26) AL: Obama +10 (29-23) CT: Clinton +2 (25-23) OK: Clinton +18 (22-16) AR: Clinton +28 (22-13) KS: Obama +4 (17-15) NM: Clinton +8 (15-13) UT: Obama +18 (14-9) ID: Obama +20 (11-7) DE: Clinton +6 (8-7) ND: Clinton +20 (8-5) AK: Clinton +8 (7-6) Samoa, Guam, Overseas: Obama +40 (7-3) By my math, assuming that Edwards cannot get 15% anywhere now that he dropped out, that would make the pledged/voted delegate counts for the day: Obama: 845 Clinton: 843 Add that to the already-pledged delegates from previous states, and the standings become: Obama: 908 Clinton: 891 It doesn't get much closer than this!!!

Something to keep an eye on today... So far, the three states that have been contested in the Dem race are Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. What do they have in common? Geographically homogenous populations. No huge cities, no great divides between regions of the state. What that meant was, early returns were fairly indicative of the state as a whole. Today? Won't be true. California is so huge and so diverse that you won't have a great feel for it until most of the results are in. States like IL, CO, NM and NY have populations that have heavily liberal urban centers and more conservative areas outside of them. So, when you see a state reporting 10% or 20%, check the areas counted, and take it with a grain of salt.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 09:06 AM) A.S. only has 3 pledged delegates... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Pa...primaries,_2008 Its American Samoa PLUS other dems abroad - which is 10 pledged according to Wiki, and 11 pledged according to the source I cited. Plus the supers from the pacific rim to make it 22 or 23.

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First results are in, for American Samoa and other pacific-area Americans abroad... Obama: 75% Clinton: 25% So, of the 22 delegates, that will split roughly to 16 for Obama and 6 for Clinton. Results are still be validated. No big surprise here.

OK everyone there is a specific thread for the Super Tuesday (SDOGPEIT) discussions - lets use that today and tomorrow for that purpose. This thread is getting absurdly large.

OK, I've got my numbers in my sig now. I need to lose 48 pounds this year - and since there are about 47 weeks left in the year, that's almost exactly a pound a week. Or alternately, its a 3000 calorie deficit each week. If I do this by diet change AND working out, it should be healthy weight loss.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 4, 2008 -> 07:04 PM) I would disagree (though I've not seen No Country), mostly because HW chooses to reject his father, and I think that is affirmative. I do see your point though, in many ways, I think the journey that HW makes should mirror the journey of the viewer (or at least that's how I felt). You know, that's very interesting. As I mentioned earlier, those two characters are like observers/journalists in the literary sense. So they do work as a lens for the viewer - and that makes sense with their roles being that of the viewer's perspective. Nice connection you made there.