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QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) here's a very candid look into how a JR FO works, from the statement on Thibs: It's a joke, you can't run franchises like this. GarPax is a laughingstock around the NBA despite many good draft picks, because of how obviously strained the relationship between Gar and Paxson is. Powerful men don't like to form consensus with "interdepartmental input". This isn't Google or Facebook, it's a sports franchise. One guy should be making the final call, yes he can take input from those below him but it's a tyranny of one, not a "consensus of information" or whatever mumble jumble JR uses. Dude, you even bolded this sentence

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) So you're saying that the Ricketts family is substantially outperforming Reinsdorf's group in their management of that franchise? And there is the extreme hyperbole, what took so long?

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) Why do you keep bringing up how the Cubs do things? We're talking about the White Sox and how whatever the hell they are doing on the South Side has led to one of the worst 30 year stretches in club history outside of 2005 when almost everything broke their way. Whatever they are doing isn't working. Try something new. You are the one telling me that no one else is doing things this way. You only have to look 8.1 miles north to find someone that is doing things exactly this way.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:12 PM) And that's a problem. It's reality, but it's a problem. The owner should hire his people at let them work without interference. The idea that Hahn has to sit down with JR and KW before signing someone strikes me as absurd. Just give him a budget and get out of the way. You think the Epstein operates without going to the Ricketts family? No way.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:00 PM) As long as KW is over Hahn how can you really know If Hahn made all these decisions? I would like to see Hahn on his own 100% and judge him without KW around on his own merits. Again, no GM is "100% on his own". Hell even Jerry himself has to answer to the Board of Directors.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 29, 2015 -> 12:58 PM) The question isn't that at all. The question is "who has final say"? I guarantee you that it's not Jed Hoyer. Hoyer works the phones I'm sure and does other duties but the executive at the top is Epstein. It's a traditional org chart. The Sox have more of a triangle it seems at the top with JR, Hahn and KW all making inputs. That isn't going to work. And JR has final say.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 29, 2015 -> 12:53 PM) I'm trying to think of a single successful MLB franchise that has such decision making process. I agree that most likely it is a "group decision" and that is not how to do things IMO. You need one guy and everyone else lines up behind him. Do you honestly think Theo Epstein has no input on the Cubs decision making process?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 29, 2015 -> 12:32 PM) That is the popular opinion. The problem is we will never hear the cross examination. I think the slant towards Thibs deserved what he got, including the unnecessary jabs from JR, would be at least more neutral. I am honestly surprised we didn't see more than we did down the stretch. It didn't come out until the day that Thibs was canned that he lost the locker room down the stretch, even though people like us were talking about it at various points during the season, with the way that the team would just seem to not care against bad teams they should have been blowing out but were losing to. They could have made things look much worse of Thibs if they wanted. Pretty much the only thing the team was was in answer to Van Gundy.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 29, 2015 -> 11:50 AM) I doubt there are many coaches or managers that appreciate meddling from the GM and president of the team. If Hoiberg is going to be a yes man, I hope the Bulls higher ups have GarPax on notice that if the results are the same, it isn't the coach. Pretty much everyone has a boss. When your boss asks you to do something you either acknowledge it or start looking for a new job. You definitely don't go try to publicly embarrass your bosses in as public of a matter as possible. Even taking into account the disaster that the front office of the Bulls has been at times, Thibs got what he earned.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 29, 2015 -> 10:51 AM) I get that Caroll is both funny and seemingly a great human being, but some people here have the most inflated view of him. When this team gets real depth next year Scott Caroll will never be considered as a bullpen option. His future isn't as a long man, his future is most likely bouncing around AAA teams until he calls it quits. Of course I could see a scenario where the Sox release him and no one picks him up and he just stays in Charlotte until he quits. I know Carroll doesn't have any ceiling to speak of, but he has done great work in his time as a middle and long reliever. I wouldn't have thought it before, but I am willing to keep running him out there until he proves otherwise.

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QUOTE (bmags @ May 29, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) People view Reinsdorf's refusal to pay the tax through the lens of "cheap", but it makes more sense for sox fans who saw him refuse to go over slot in the draft. He's a man who sticks to the spirit of the CBA rules, which I think is a strategy to be more influential in the drafting of those rules. The current draft rules with hard slotting, and the international draft rules have Jerry's fingerprints all over them.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 29, 2015 -> 09:14 AM) bulls fans hot take that JR takes money from the bulls to pay for the sox is quite strong. It is also quite stupid, and impossible.

Honestly that is embarrassing. I am not sure why you even wasted E-space posting that garbage.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 29, 2015 -> 09:09 AM) My gut says that he's not going to touch Robin at all anyway. If there was a 2% chance before, with the way the Thibs stuff went down, it is probably now a negative chance.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2015 -> 08:54 AM) The opposite. The White Sox are all good "company men" who don't ever rock the boat...or question the longstanding way of doing things. I'd take a dysfunctional frontt office of ten overachievers/tireless workers who don't always get along with co-workers and push their players to their limits than...well, whatever we have now. Sort of like a country club atmosphere. If the Bulls made the same mistakes the White Sox make on a constant basis...would Thibs passively sit there and let it go? Yeah boy, that Ozzie Guillen played it by the book. Luckily we never had any problems with fundamentals while he was here.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 28, 2015 -> 06:20 PM) It's their jobs to determine which "projects" will reach their potential. Realistically, management has also generated guys like Jimmy Butler and company. They seem to be doing something right.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2015 -> 07:41 AM) What, for example, has Buddy Bell done exceptionally well or even decently? Is there anything he could do to get fired? What does that have to do with bringing in a manager who won't listen to authority?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2015 -> 05:31 AM) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...528-column.html Why doesn't Reinsdorf find the baseball equivalent of Thibs? Reading the last couple of paragraphs, you could exchange Ventura's name with Hoiberg's. It's almost like Jekyll and Hyde. On the baseball side, loyalty and sentimentality reign supreme. Harrelson. Melton. Trying to keep Ozzie and KW both together for far too long. Baines. Cooper. Herm Schneider. Greg Walker Gordon Beckham. Mark Buehrle. Bossard. Nancy Faust. Farmer and DJ. Paul Konerko last year. Brooks Boyer. Hahn as apprentice in waiting. You would think the results on the baseball side would match the five consecutive playoff appearances on the bb side but it's actually the opposite. The White are a loyal and insulted family populated by the likes of Pierce, Skowron and Minoso. The Bulls are a cutthroat business where employees are whisked out the door with a Top Ten all-time winning percentage. Coaches are constantly hired and fired with an eye towards getting to the next level when White Sox fans would be simply elated with one playoff appearance. Has loyalty led to malaise and apathy? Are the White Sox like a 1980's Japanese style "work team" where a guaranteed lifetime employment contract eventually leads to a lack of productivity because there's little or no fear of losing your position? Or Reinsdorf simply can't stand disloyalty.....Ozzie talking to the Marlins while under contract and inseason....or Thibs using Van Gundy to trash the front office publicly? Shouldn't the White Sox be run less as a hobby and more like the Bulls? Because he doesn't want to.

QUOTE (kapzk @ May 28, 2015 -> 04:55 PM) No way is Melky appropriate for DH, his roids have clearly worn off and has abysmal power now. Apparently they have a much longer life cycle then they used ot.

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