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Now see, why wasn't the media talking about this before? Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 34m34 minutes ago We knew there was tension between Thibodeau and the front office, but when he lost the locker room, the writing was on the wall.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 28, 2015 -> 11:11 AM) Thibs is gone. https://twitter.com/ChrisDeLuca/status/603957187203969024

Worst kept secret ever. http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/spo...iberg/27849419/

Adam Proteau ‏@Proteautype 11h11 hours ago Frederik Andersen's save percentages: .964 in Game 3; .875 in Game 4; .857 in Game 5; and .818 in Game 6.

QUOTE (chw42 @ May 28, 2015 -> 10:45 AM) You can ask the same thing about Derrick Rose. Why the hell is he settling for 30% 3 pointers when he can drive and shoot 55%? Because he is scared...

Paul Sullivan ‏@PWSullivan 27m27 minutes ago Ventura says Avi wont start either game and Robertson probably wont be used.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 28, 2015 -> 10:22 AM) My guess is that they will be short-handed in game 1. Start Beck in game 2. Then send Beck and Webb to Charlotte and call up a position player to replace whichever guy goes on the DL. This makes a lot of sense. Speculation then turns to a bench specialist in Garcia, the temporary return of Micah Johnson, or a short stint for Davidson or Trayce Thompson, depending on who goes to DL... if that is what happens.

Big Ten Talk ‏@CSNBigTen 7m7 minutes ago Report: Investigations costing #Illini up to $425 an hour -- http://bit.ly/1GGBXNf #B1G #B1GTalk

QUOTE (robinventura23 @ May 28, 2015 -> 10:07 AM) I'm not sure of the rules for this, but is it possible Webb is up for first game, Beck in the second game? No. One player for the second game.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 4h4 hours ago The #Marlins talked about bringing back Ozzie Guillen to manage team, Ron Washington and Dusty too, before Jennings. http://usat.ly/1HMniS0

Doug Collins personally offered to become Thibs O coach. Thibs turned him down. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baske...0527-story.html

K.C. Johnson @KCJHoop Resolution to Thibodeau situation expected no later than Friday, sources said. All signs still point to his exit. http://fw.to/4GrrzRO

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 28, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) As I said some weeks ago, this was the perfect scenario for him. He had nowhere to go, he's just reaching what would be his peak years as a pro, and he's proven he can hit at this level quite effectively. He's got a big personality, and the patience at the plate to handle junk-ballers. This way he gets to go make some money playing, and maybe he even gets a shot at sliding back over to the states in a year or two or three and help someone if he tears up KBO. Yes, outside of having the Sox call him up, this is the next best case scenario from him. If nothing else, his paycheck probably just jumped by a factor of 10 or so.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 28, 2015 -> 09:35 AM) Rodon is starting tomorrow. I don't think that's allowed, unless somebody gets "injured" between then and now Yes if sent down, you have to spend 10 days unless there is an injury. Thank the old Steinbrenner Yankees for that one.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 28, 2015 -> 09:05 AM) Pretty big loss to come out of nowhere. The fact that the White Sox granted the release for him to go in the middle of the season pretty well tells you they don't see a clear scenario where he helps the team.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 28, 2015 -> 12:22 AM) Hell, this is the most convincing part of the Hoiberg rumor. http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23798...-In-Royce-White A coach and a free first round pick? Now I am interested.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 28, 2015 -> 09:16 AM) yes he would, just like anything else, he will have parameters to live by, if not, he would still be looking for a job. remember he tried for several yrs to hook up with another team, and didn't get the job. btw ....... how would you know the inner makings of the politics of the sox FO?? Actually he didn't. He turned down multiple interviews. Houston comes to mind as one for some reason.

That means a roster move is needed to make room for Chris Beck starting game 2. Avi to DL? Conor to DL? Carroll to AAA?

QUOTE (LDF @ May 27, 2015 -> 04:01 PM) more likely, KW has the final input on decisions. No GM operates with complete autonomy.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 27, 2015 -> 09:18 PM) Let me ask this question. If negative (realistic/pragmatic) or pessimistic/dark cloud fans bother people so much. why not support a team that historically is loyal/optimistic and whose fans you don't have to argue with about their respective versions of fandom? (Like the Cardinals, for example). I'm assuming there have been thousands of Doubting Thomas White Sox fans since the Black Sox Scandal...or after 1994 and the White Flag Trade. Is it worth the time, effort and energy of convincing all of them to be hopeful and optimistic in the face of all evidence to the contrary? Do you believe that Fathom, who might be one of the most loyal White Sox fans there is here....is less of a fan because he's often pessimistic or mentions the Cubs? Doesn't he represent the quintessential White Sox fan of the last 50-60 years....? If not, who does? (Maybe Billy Pierce, Moose Skowron or Minnie Minoso.) And, besides the "b****ing about everyone b****ing/moaning/whining/complaining," what constructive answers have been provided to improve matters....that will turn the dark clouds into silver linings? That's the thing that people are getting wrong. It doesn't bother me. It isn't going to change who I root for. People are going to do what people are going to do, and there really isn't much you can change about that. But, that doesn't mean you can ignore reality if you are looking at ways to make things better. Because of the sort of fan base we have, our options for rebuilding are limited. That isn't the "company line" or any other thing that is being said by people who can't actually refute any of what I am saying so they have resorted to name calling. That is reality. It is also worth mentioning that the sense of worth right here is over inflated. Constructive answers? Does anyone really think what they say here actually makes a difference to the franchise as a whole? I mean I love this place and all, but if Rick and Kenny are reading Soxtalk for answers, we are all screwed.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 27, 2015 -> 06:13 PM) why are you brow beating the subject. you ended it, and then stated back up back accusing someone of whining, and now you came back to this nonsense. loosing makes everyone have a short temper. It is the schtick. Then there is reality. Reality dictates that a team understands the nature of its fanbase and try to cater to them to some extent. It is the entire reason we have never seen a completely sell of like the Cubs can do because of their fan loyalty. It is why the team was looking for near major league ready talent in most of its deals a few years back, instead of waiting for a process that could take half of a decade or more. Even if it failed, a slow erosion of fans being better than the bandwagon all emptying at once, and stupid stuff like BLACK FLAG coming back into vogue with the more meatball portion of the population. It is why as soon as the rebuild even started to look like it was turning a corner, the team went out and bought a bunch of major leaguers at market prices in an attempt to bring back some of the bandwagon. If Sox fans want to paint themselves as smart, they have to be able to take an honest look at the whole picture, and understand all of the pieces of the puzzle, not just the parts that generate calls on the Score. If you are ignoring parts of the story to paint your narrative, you aren't half as smart as you think. But no, let's go ahead and resume the whining about what a horrible 35 years it has been, and people can't take the horrible pain anymore. WHY ME? WHY DOES OWNERSHIP DO THIS TO ME? I AM ENTITLED TO BETTER!

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 27, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) I've said it all season, but Hahn needs to sign this dude to an extension. Build your team around a rotation of Sale, Shark, Quintana, & Rodon and you should be able to be legitimate contenders each year with even an average offense. This year might be a lost cause, but I honestly think we can fill the black holes at 3B & C this coming offseason if we're willing to move some of our prospects. Obviously this all assumes guys like Melky, Eaton, etc. return close to their previous form. It takes two to tango.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 27, 2015 -> 04:48 PM) Matt Adams likely done for the year for Cardinals. Howard and Hamels would actually make a lot of sense for StL Unless Philly is willing to give up Hamels for nothing if a team takes Howard, I don't see Howard making sense for anyone.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ May 27, 2015 -> 04:31 PM) Um, maybe because you never asked me? Or if you did, I missed the request. But even if you did, I don't care to expend the energy to do so. You're the one whining and gnashing your teeth over this notion of bandwagon fans, not me. What I'm interested in is a solution to the attendance problem, which I claim will be solved with more winning, specifically via some exciting play in the offseason - which to date, outside of '05, hasn't happened in our lifetimes. Nothing more, and certainly nothing less. I did a couple of times, but thanks for the non-answer. It tells me that you know the answer.