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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 03:13 PM) So the front office gets no credit whatsoever for putting together pretty good teams year after year? The front office has struck out on star after star, and has spent year after year filling the roster with ad hoc replacements trying to bridge the gap until the next star fell into their lap.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) I'm not arguing that he doesn't max out the potential. But maxing out their potential doesn't mean his teams are vastly overachieving. I think they achieve what they're capable of in a pretty s***ty conference with 1 or 2 really good teams: they get to the playoffs and then lose. At best you could argue that he overachieved by beating the Nets. Everything else is up to expectations for the most part. Without Rose and a different coach, are you (and SS2k5) suggesting they shouldn't have gotten to the playoffs at all? Unless we are talking about someone like Popp, no the Bulls aren't getting the playoffs with that squad. They were left for dead by everyone.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 02:42 PM) They signed them? They drafted them? The Bulls have put together a pretty good roster during Thibs' run. He's had a lot of parts to play with. And I think the bolded is crap, especially this year. Noah is an All-Star/All-NBA player. Not every team has one of those. This year they have Pau. They've had the best 6 man in the game for multiple season in Taj. They've had solid 3-4 guys like Deng and Dunleavy. Thibs grinds out more wins than your typical coach would. Fine, i'll grant you that. But those extra 5-10 wins don't mean dick at the end of the day. Seriously, if Jimmy Butler was all star material, he wouldn't have been drafted #29. Do you honestly believe if he gets drafted by say Michael Jordan and Charlotte, that he is still turned into an all-star? If the answer is no, the answer is coaching did it. And look at those names... Pau is having his best season in years and years. Noah is another one of Thibs classic overachievers. Taj is another Butler who turned into something WAY higher than anyone expected he could be when he was drafted.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 02:09 PM) I give credit to Thibs for that. I also give GarPax credit for that. Thibs was obviously an improvement over VD. No question. I just think the "overachiever" angle is a little overplayed at this point. Losing your MVP/superstar is rough and they maintained some consistency without him. Kudos to Thibs. But it's not like they really OVERachieved. I say they achieved, given what they had and the s***ty state of the East. Should they have beat the Nets in round 1? Probably not. But it's not like the Nets were the 1 seed or a true contender either. That is total crap. Explain to me how GarPax were able to turn Jimmy Butler into an all-star? Or able to turn a steady stream of mediocre PG's into useful players on an NBA roster? Or turning Taj Gibson into a guy who would start on a lot of teams? Getting 10 more wins out of a team then most anyone else would is the very definition of over-achieving. From a pure talent standpoint, without a healthy Derrick Rose, this is a mediocre talent team. It is a .500 team, or worse in the modern NBA.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 01:50 PM) They don't. That's such a myth. Occasionally beating good teams in the regular season is great, but it doesn't mean much. What was the record against the Heat? Like 6-2 in the regular season? How'd that work in the playoffs? The Bulls have (and have had) good, deep teams in a conference with about 4 solid teams. Thibs does a great job maximizing what he has, no denying that. They still haven't won anything though. One ECF appearance and one first round exit isn't Hall of Fame worthy. Turning a mediocre talent team into a top regular season is improving the team. He doesn't have to win a title with a crappy team for it to mean that he gets a team to overachieve.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) well it is written by this guy: It's more than just minutes with Thibs tho. He works his players too hard. How many coaches do you see players complaining about hard practices? Also this from earlier in the season: K.C. Johnson tweeted: #Bulls did have Sunday off. But players talked about first 2-day break since Dec. 21 as chance to recover. Instead, Thibodeau calls practice. I don't think you can blame many of the injuries this season on minutes. There's no doubt he's a Taskmaster tho. The flip side is why do you think the Bulls consistently outperform their talent levels?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-hous...at-thibs-built/ That was pretty awful. I couldn't even get through it all. The credibility was gone when he said something about Deng playing nearly 48 minutes a game, and then I closed it when he started talking about the Wonder Years.

Must have read the writing on the wall.

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 3m3 minutes ago Cliff Lee's partially torn tendon is not the type of injury that would be addressed with Tommy John surgery, the Phillies said.

Poor guy. I really feel bad for him. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/03/gavi...s-fracture.html

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 12:18 PM) I'm kinda peeved that for the second time one of our top prospects is scheduled to start yet there are no viewing options available. First Rodon's start and now Danish's. Whatever, at least we've seen a fair amount of Anderson, Hawkins, Micah, etc. I thought we were supposed to see Montas the other day but we didn't. There is zero chance at being able to coordinate broadcasts with who is playing when it comes to spring training.

QUOTE (staxx @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 09:10 AM) Yikes that's never good. Phillies as an organization are really a mess right now. That is one of their biggest assets who is circling the drain. Sounds like they are sharing trainers with Derrick Rose.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 11:15 AM) Sale pitched a grand total of 10.1 innings in the minors before being called. Rodon pitched 24.1 last year. I don't think anybody is expecting Rodon to start right away and be the ace of the staff, but most, I think, feel he will be better than Danks or Noesi right off the bat. He pitched 123 innings last year and 132.1 the year before that. I don't think there is any reason to believe that he can't throw 150-160 innings this year. You really only need 3 starters in the playoffs so if the Sox get there they won't have to worry about burning out Rodon's arm. Absolutely correct on that assumption.

QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) Not sure if this was posted anywhere else. Throwing smoke out there. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/03/09/lev...0-on-radar-gun/ If they are still working on simple mechanical things, that probably means he is a decent ways from Chicago... and I am OK with that. Let the conditioning and the mechanics get fixed, and then let him earn it.

To me it all depends on how good the Sox think their chances are of winning the division this year. If they think they are within a couple of games, can they sacrifice games simply because they want to get Rodon away from Super 2 status? Not really. The Central is pretty tightly packed between the top four teams. It isn't hard to imagine a scenario where three bad starts is the difference between October baseball and October golf.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 07:45 AM) I'll say I straight up disagree on your 2nd paragraph. Take a look at your own argument. Rodon was tired not because he threw a lot of innings but because his pitch counts were high. In other words, he was throwing a lot of pitches, not translating that into a lot of innings, and wound up with fatigue because of it. Is that something you seriously expect to improve while jumping directly from college ball to the big leagues? Big league hitters don't get themselves out easier than guys in college. Based on that set of statements you just, IMO, made an even more convincing case that Rodon for those 20 starts isn't a good idea and that he not only needs time to get stretched out but he has more work to do to be ready for the big leagues, at least for the first couple months. If all Rodon is going to give us is 20 starts and he can't be "Chris Sale dominant" in those 20 starts because he's putting up high pitch counts and not lasting 6+ innings, then we don't need Rodon to help us in the race, we need Rodon to get better and be ready to be a fill in when we need him in the rotation. In fact, based on what you just said, Rodon would not be in a position to "help us in the race" especially if he can't go more than 20 starts. Pitching a guy 20 starts and then expecting someone else who isn't stretched out to fill in for him is nonsense moreso than what you decided to call nonsense on my part. That isn't necessarily the case. For whatever reason I can't find IP leaders from the NCAA site for last year, but that could just as easily mean that his coach uses him for a lot of innings in the starts that he gets.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 08:35 PM) With three off days in the first 11 days of the season, we really don't need a 5th starter. Assuming Sale is out, each guy gets two starts and they would all be pitching on five days rest in their third starts. Hopefully Sale is back by the 17th though, because we then hit a stretch of 17 games in 17 days (assuming no rainouts). It's after this stretch I would target a possible Rodon call-up. At this point, Hahn and the coaching staff would have five starts to evaluate Danks & Noesi on and four/five AAA starts to evaluate Rodon on. And more importantly, we'd be about a week past the service time deadline. I'll straight up say I disagree with Balta on the need to baby Rodon throughout the season. His issues in college last year were due to extremely high pitch counts, not because he pitched a ton of innings. If he's a better option than Danks or Noesi, then he needs to be in the rotation as soon as possible as long as we don't lose the extra year of service time. I don't really care if he can only give us 20 or so starts. Take those starts from May to August and then shut him down or move him to the bullpen the rest of the way. There is no reason for this skip a start nonsense Balta is proposing. We need Rodon this year to help keep us in the race while see how this team takes shape. There's no need to f*** around with the rest of the rotation in hopes of getting a few starts from him in September. Again, take your 20 starts from Carlos and call it a day. Those starts from May to July are ultimately just as important (if not more) in terms of making the playoffs. And the good thing is if we need to add a starter, at least we'll have a better idea if we're a legit contender. I keep seeing Chris Sale pointed to, but what about the other side of the coin with a guy like Jose Quintana? Because they pushed his innings up his first year (2012), [2011 100 IP, 2012 184 total IP] he was able to jump to 200 IP in 13, and repeat it again in 14. The guy is primed and ready to jump to 230 IP, or more, if the season asks for it. With Rodon's body type, I would guess he is much closer to a Quintana than a Sale.

Jay is our Quarterback

QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 04:40 PM) I understood that much. The point was the "12" isn't for inches, which Balta implied it was. That's what she said.

Brad penny is looking much better in this outing.

Nice to see Miguel go from 1st to 3rd on a ball that wasn't hit very hard up the middle.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 03:58 PM) Great quote by Melton: "He's got that great 6 to 12 curveball" That's a first. First he said a 12 to 5.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 03:47 PM) @PaulKuharskyNFL With apologies to those certain of something else, the #Titans are not trading for Jay Cutler. ESPN 1000 ‏@ESPN1000 29m29 minutes ago According to @ESPNChiBears on @WaddleandSilvy, Jay Cutler was in the building last week working with Adam Gase and the new playbook. Honestly, it seems like the most likely thing to happen. Who wants that mess?

QUOTE (SAVVY18 @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 03:19 PM) Anyone else having a hard time hearing the announcers? I think the field mic's are up too loud and the announcers are too low. Yes

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 02:16 PM) poll: what do people think Reasonable return is for Cutler. Honestly, swapping a 3rd for a high 2nd is too low. I would only take honest to god picks, or swapping firsts with titans. We would then have lots of ability to trade down and accumulate more picks. We would also be tuwwible next year. If someone took his contract, I wouldn't want much of anything back to be honest.