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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 05:44 AM) And here I thought it was over. Counter offer from old company. Full funding for two years, salary higher than new offer, ownership stake as official spinoff. I did not expect this. Go. Walk away. If you were willing to draw that line in the sand, it is time to go, especially because you convinced your team it was time to go.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 07:42 AM) If Zach Duke is fixed by throwing side arm and changing his pitches, why can't Danks do the same? While appreciating the consistent attempts here, I will say that Danks problem is the opposite. He hasn't been able to maintain his mechanics very well. It is also worth mentioning that the team did alter his arm slot at the end of the year, and Danks had probably his best month of the year after doing so.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 08:50 PM) Then there is no reason whatsoever to trade him. [like]

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 08:48 PM) Here's another way to look at it... Noah Snydergaard, ranked #10 over all by MLB. Corey Seager, ranked #13 over all by MLB. Julio Urias, ranked #14 over all by MLB. Jock Pederson, ranked #15 over all by MLB. Carlos Rodon, ranked #19 over all by MLB. Would anyone on this board be willing to trade Carlos Rodon for Alexei Ramirez? I know i sure as f*** would not so what makes people think Alexei should bring back a player ranked even higher? Its a ridiculous notion! Alexei does not have the perceived valued most think he has. Sorry, that's just the way it is. The Sox are by no means desperate to trade Alexei but if he's ever to be traded, now is the time. Going by the rumors the sox dont have to shop Alexei so as long as a team offers value ( not percieved fan value) then take it and move on as long as the return can at least help the 2016 team if not the 2015 team.With as many holes there are to fill I don't buy into the Sox contending in 2015 bs either. 2015 will be a year of making more progress and exposing what holes are left before the 2016 team emerges ready to contend. 2015 would be a great year to get Rodon and Bassitt acclimated to the MLB as well as increasing their IP so that hopefully in 2016 they can give the Sox 180+ IP. If indeed they have a future in the rotation. The White Sox have no reason to have to trade Alexei Ramirez. -They have publicly stated they are now looking to win this year (even if you don't believe it, which I don't think it is realistic). -Ramirez is under team control for up to two years at a HUGE bargain to what he would pull on the free agent market right now. My guess is he would be in the neighborhood of a 5/75 type deal if he were currently a FA. -The Sox have no payroll squeeze where they need to move the salary off of the books. If we don't get a big offer, there is literally no good reason to move Alexei.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 08:16 PM) I DON'T wanna trade Alexei and Seager probably be at third base. Was Seager just the reason the Dodgers didn't need Alexei at SS?

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 08:01 PM) The Dodgers will just sign SS or trade MATT KEMP FOR ELVIS andrus If the Dodgers thought that Seager was ready to be their SS, they wouldn't be "aggressively pursuing" Alexei.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 07:55 PM) Mets called to did a deal get done no unless RH is blow away no deal will be done. What have the Mets got to do with who the Dodgers think is their future SS?

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 07:49 PM) Seager is the Dodgers SS they don't need alexei. Yet they are calling about him. Strange huh?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 07:37 PM) They had the CSN Cubs guy on Kaplan's CSN show today, and Kaplan was so excited asking him if thought Theo would be able to convince Lester to come to Chicago and win a title with the Cubs. The beat guy said he thought Lester winds up back in Boston. Kap looked like he was about to cry. I can't decide if I would rather see Lester go to the Cardinals, or to see them drive the bidding up to a ridiculous price for the Cubs to swallow.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 07:10 PM) Or they could just make a reasonable offer that Hahn takes because it benefits our team? Alexei Ramirez for $10 million a year for the next two years also benefits the team greatly.

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 20m20 minutes ago Sources: #Marlins interested in Shields. Would cost team No. 12 pick in draft plus $$$. GM Dan Jennings drafted Shields for #Rays in 2000.

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 5m5 minutes ago K. Williams: "The only message we want to send at the end of the day is when our roster is complete, that (fans) can dream again." #WhiteSox

Jay Zawaski ‏@JayZawaski670 12m12 minutes ago Clendening and Nordstrom called up. I'd expect these two to make the trip.

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 04:28 PM) Who said anything about Matt Kemp? Dodgers are not moving him for Alexei. It would be Ethier or Crawford., probably Ethier. Neither of those are an "offset" either. Both go past the Danks contract, and have the same problem.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 04:21 PM) Then there's no reason for the White Sox to make that move. Schebler could be a starter in 2016 but his numbers don't scream or jump out at you. He's not a bad prospect, but he's not worth Alexei Ramirez. Basically, the Sox have no reason to move Alexei. If they move him, they are going to get a very good, top prospect in return or a very nice package of prospects. Rinse, repeat.

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 04:21 PM) The Dodger OF contract would be offset with Danks. The Sox can afford Shields; tho McCarthy or Hammel would be cheaper options. Again, I am only commenting on what might happen in the scenario I outlined. I would prefer Alexei straight up for Zack Wheeler, and then take the Alexei money and sign Cabrera or Lowrie. Matt Kemp is due $21 million this year, and $21.5 million for each year from 2016 to 2019. John Danks is due $14.25 million for 2015 and 2016. That is a gap of 6.75 million this year, 7.25 million in 2016 and $64.5 million from 2017 to 2019. I am going to say that is about $80 million short of an "offset".

Jim Bowden ‏@JimBowden_ESPN 4m4 minutes ago #Cardinals have joined the Red Sox, Cubs and Braves in pursuit of Jon Lester according to a club source which makes sense after Miller trade

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 04:13 PM) It is a total and utter pipe dream to think that the Dodgers would include Joc Pederson in any trade. They are trying to move the other guys - Ethier, Crawford - to make room for Pederson. My two cents worth is that the two teams are talking about a deal that would involve Ethier and also include Arruebarrena, as well as another prospect. That would give us a lefty outfield bat and a strong defensive player whose hitting abilities are an unknown at this point, but who could at least replace Leury Garcia. In return they would take Danks. We would then turn around and either sign Cabrera or Lowrie to a 2 year contract, until such time that Tim Anderson is ready. We would go after a "big fish" starter - Shields, perhaps - Put Bassitt in the rotation, use Carroll as the long man and spot starter. This would give us Sale, Shields, Quintana, Noesi and Bassitt until Rodon is ready. I would prefer a trade with the Mets to get a young starter, but that would obviously not include getting rid of Danks. The Mets have a stable of young starters and are in desperate need of a SS. The Sox are not taking on two big contracts this winter (a Dodger OF and Shields). They finally got to the point where they are in a good payroll position. They aren't about to blow that up again.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) After that game, how was there no talk about Nikolai. That was an impressive offensive performance. Nice passing, nice post moves, long range shot. You can see loads of potential. He is still going to have his bad games, which he has, but I think he has the opportunity to be a star with time. And Jimmy Buckets, what is there not to like. I didn't watch past the first quarter, but you can see flashes of what is going to make the kid a very good NBA player. He has some offensive skill, but a ways to go on defense. I can see why Thibs doesn't want to expose him too much yet.

FanGraphs looks at Duke http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs...ew-miller-lite/

Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 2m2 minutes ago #Phillies are reportedly researching #RedSox prospects, fueling Cole Hamels trade rumors. Story: http://sbnation.com/e/7007344

This is a great chart that kind of drives home the point about what a good SS is worth in MLB. http://www.pinstripealley.com/2014/11/17/7...tstops-baseball

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) Unless Dodgers is ready to make Seager a full time 3B, it does not make sense for them to trade a top level prospect like Pederson for Alexei. The only way this makes sense for them is unloading a bad contract like Either or Kemp, plus a couple of mid level ML ready prospects for Alexei and Danks. Then they can enjoy not having Alexei. The Sox have zero need to move him, and would be completely stupid to take on a bad contract without getting a star potential young players for him.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) I brought that trade (swap trayce for generic crap prospect) up on the mlbtraderumors comment section just for fun and LA fans bashed the hell outta me calling me crazy.lol They want Ramirez for Ethier straight up. Fans are generally stupid.

QUOTE (peppers312 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 03:08 PM) yeah if Alexei is going anywhere, Rick better make sure that team is taking Danks and his contract too. similar to how the Cabrera + Dontrelle Willis deal years ago to DET. we have to unload Danks' contract. Eh, if we are dealing Alexei, I would rather get a bigger return in players, than to get a crappier one and get rid of Danks. We need talent more than we need salary relief.