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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) Those are two very different things. I'm like you, I'd love of the NFL was full of nothing but law-abiding, family-oriented people who volunteer on their off days. But that's not reality. Who gives a s*** if it is reality? That doesn't mean that firing someone for beating his gf/wife is an overreaction. Maybe if there were some real consequences for this action, it would get done less?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:32 PM) I just like how all the people who are so supportive of his wife dont get that this actually hurts her economically and that in no world would she want Rice's contract to be terminated. Its pretty much a slap to her face (pun intended), because not only is she a victim, she now suffers economic harm as well. But hey, lets not think about this logically, instead lets just get our pound of flesh. If anyone actually cared about his wife, they would give her 50% of the salary he would have made, or hell donate the money to a charity to help battered women. But nah, Ravens will pocket the money, Rice will get paid a lot less by someone else, and all of the people who yelled for Rice to be "punished" will pat themselves on the back for being awesome. As someone who is familiar with our legal system, you will surely realize that people who are breadwinners are sent to jail all of the time. We as a society don't not punish people just because it could hurt someone else.

QUOTE (TRU @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:28 PM) See I agree with this. What I don't agree with is no outrage over Josh Brent. Literally not a word about it. If there was literally not a word about it, how do we all know about it?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:24 PM) I have no problem with anyone doing what they want. But acting like this is the "normal" reaction is absurd. It is normal for the rest of the world. It isn't normal in the NFL.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:40 PM) "Lock" might be a strong word, considering he's stayed healthy this season. But this'll be the first time he's ever made 30 starts. His spiking ground ball rate and changing pitch mix (a lot more fastball + curveball than in recent year) certainly look like a conscious approach change. For the record, I'd look elsewhere for help too. In his 7 full seasons as a major leaguer and starting pitcher, he has just over 800 IP. His previous highs were 25 starts and 170 IP. Even if he has been healthy this year, his numbers the last two seasons are way down. Pass.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:19 PM) If everything else is equal you're probably happier with 4 guys + McCarthy than with 4 guys + Noesi. No guarantees of course. McCarthy has turned into an extreme ground ball pitcher, which plays better in our park, and his peak is undoubtedly higher. I'm not really even advocating we sign McCarthy. I will say that to me, keeping Hector Noesi in the rotation is a suspect reason not to sign Free Agent Pitcher X. Noesi's been a nice player to have this year and has surpassed all expectations, but this might be the best he ever pitches. The Danks thing is more complicated. I know everyone wants him gone, but then you're essentially paying McCarthy-or-whoever $26M a year instead of $13M a year because you had to dump Danks' deal. We'd need some serious trade wizardry. It isn't just McCarthy + 4 guys. It is 4 guys, half a season of Bmac, and half a season of Scott Carroll, Andre Rienzo, or some other AAA pitcher. In that case, Noesi is a better idea. He won't outpitching McCarthy while Brandon pitches, but Brandon is a lock to miss a chunk of the season.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:19 PM) Eh I disagree. Many huge corporations dont give a f*** how slimy the guys are, as long as they bring in money. I mean they dont fire guys for not paying child support, for raping, for whatever, so not really sure why this is any different. Well besides for the fact that everyone just decided this was the fauxrage of the week. In my view, beating one's significant other should result in some outrage, and I have no problem with it resulting in someone losing their job, along with appropriate legal punishments as well.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:08 PM) It is given the punishments handed out for other offenses, including domestic violence, in the past: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-rat...ng-nfl-players/ http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nfl-do...cy-suspensions/ Three games was the most given out for domestic violence. Now we can add being cut and and an "indefinite suspension." I don't see how this isn't considered an over-reaction. Rice is a moron and a terrible human being and I have no love for the guy. I don't like defending him. But given how the NFL has handed out punishments - and will in the future - this is just crazy to me. edit: and I get why the Ravens and NFL did what they did. But it bothers me they were swayed so much by public opinion that their precedent and procedures were basically ignored. I mean if that's the case, let's go back and change some other crazy punishments (or lack thereof), like Gordon. Even if he is repeat offender, dude just smoked pot and got banned for a year. Just because the NFL hasn't had a backbone up until now, doesn't mean this was an overreaction. That is a gigantic characterization of where the burden of decency should lie. I will repeat again, the loss of one's job because you punch someone in the face and knock them out is fully justified. This is nothing more than exactly that.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:05 PM) Im not really sure most people would lose their job over this. Its slightly different because the NFL is high profile and therefore there is public perception, but generally speaking most employers dont really give a f*** what you do on your own time. Many companies have plenty of dirt bag wife beaters. /shrugs The difference is most employers don't know you beat your wife. That is why you keep your job. Of all of the places I have ever worked, and I have worked for some real bottom feeders, I can't think of any that would have continued an employees hiring status after a video like that.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:00 PM) The Sox should offer McCarthy the job of play-by-play on the road. Stone and McCarthy could just talk about curveballs for days. I would kill to hear Bmac and Hawk. Hawk would retire within a week, but it would be worth it.

Sounds like MLB will be clarifying the home plate coverage rules here soon. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11489537...on-rule-clarity

Brandon McCarthy ‏@BMcCarthy32 50m Roger Goodell is like a more powerful and rich version of David Brent/ early seasons Michael Scott. Jorge Arangure ‏@jorgearangure 46m Even if you want to believe NFL didn't see video, the fact TMZ acquired it and NFL didn't shows how seriously NFL took the case. Not very.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 02:23 PM) OK, but then isn't an indefinite suspension an overreaction the other way? They just came out with a policy that gave first time offenders a six game suspension but now he is retroactively getting more? Not to absolve Ray Rice for what he did, but it isn't his fault that this tape didn't come out until now. Uh, no. Losing your job isn't an overreaction to punching someone in the face and knocking them out.

Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika 15m Patrick Kane says he is skating without a knee brace. He needs to make sure he can play without it, but the knee feels back to normal.

I love Brandon McCarthy, but signing him and depending on him is just stupid. I am fully convinced that the Sox saw a flaw in his motion, which is why they dealt him so quickly. I very seriously doubt they want him back.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 01:46 PM) I'm sure it's more likely than not that I would be fired, but I don't think that it would be an immediate, no thinking required kind of decision. But comparing the NFL to any other employer is comparing apples and oranges. I'd be fired for using drugs too. Most people would. So should NFL players be cut for that? I'd love that personally. As of today, the NFL is the worst of all of the major sports when it comes to doping and drugs, except for maybe the NBA. They don't even test for HGH>

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 01:29 PM) Wow, what an overreaction. But I don't feel bad for the guy. They have to pay out the remainder of his contract right? Would you keep your job if your bosses got ahold of a tape of you punching your financee in the face and knocking her out?

That is appropriate for a response from Baltimore, though it is disappointing it took so long

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4h ESPN sources say that the player referred to in the initial Hawks' background report that triggered the ensuing investigation was Luol Deng

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 2h Abreu already looking to be more of a leader in 2015 http://atmlb.com/1q2RQpR via @mlb

Why WAR doesn't always add up. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-degrees--w...-030133203.html

Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst 7m One tidbit MLB hasn't mentioned in announcing 2015 schedule: If regular season ends Oct. 4 it means World Series could stretch to Nov 4 or 5

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 12:12 PM) I hate the April schedule. It's almost all AL Central teams. Which means we will probably lose half a dozen games to weather, knowing our luck.

Colleen Kane ‏@ChiTribKane 1m Dates for White Sox-Cubs series are more favorable in 2015. July 10-12 at Wrigley Field. Aug. 14-16 at U.S. Cellular Field.

How many people out there would have their jobs back after a felony conviction and six months out of work? I know I wouldn't.