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QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 10:29 AM) Furry like a trimmed beaver? Or furry like a beer drinking 400 lb man at a NASCAR race with his shirt off? I was thinking more like a wino.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 10:18 AM) Will they be southpaws as well? And probably a little furry.

So the Miami Heat, lost because of the heat. Nice.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 10:14 AM) Rodon wasn't by any means my first choice, more like 3rd or 4th, that said I'm happy as hell we have him so I definitely agree with you. Hoping the Sox give Rodon a shot at taking a similar path as Sale, if he takes a bit longer that would be fine. Awe sheeiiit. So we can expect to see the offspring somewhere around the 2032 draft? Little Wite-Rodons.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 09:18 AM) I would swap Sanchez with Adolfo, at least until he has a professional at bat, other than that I agree. Thats a pretty solid top 10 probably the best top 10 the Sox have had in 20 years. I know Sanchez is closer, and has put up a really nice average, but I don't see him having anywhere to play with the White Sox. If he had that average, plus 60/70 speed, I could see them making a spot for him as a lead-off hitter, but I just don't see him being good enough to beat someone out. He's a guy who strikes me as a 45 player right now, with a 50 ceiling.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 09:24 AM) Very few, and that's kind of the point. If you have to throw a ton at someone for a Jason Castro (who is doing poorly this year, maybe we can get him now) or if you have to sign a more undesirable type like a Salty, because you can't count on a player the quality of an AJ getting nontendered for no reason by the Giants, then you do that if you have to IMO. I think in general though if you can find yourself an AJ or a Fisk, no matter how expensive they are - and yes I know Fisk the HOF is certainly an impossible thing to ask, but I'm using him as an example since he was ours - then I think you have to do it. With AJ & Fisk we saw here how valuable it is to have a quality MLB catcher anchor a pitching staff and produce in the lineup for many years. I mean if you get a Buster Posey in the draft that's one thing, but IIRC that same draft Wieters was the guy everyone wanted, and he's been quality but nowhere near what he was supposed to be, and I believe Kyle Skipworth was in there too and he must have busted by now because I haven't heard of him. I just think it's too hard to develop these guys yourself and IMO the Sox sohuld really focus on pitching. I do like the sound of a contact-based skill player. At this point, give me contact and speed over power, definitely, assuming the power involves a massive amount of Ks. No more s***ty K machine OFers I think we've proven we can't develop these guys. Although as much as I love KW I bet he still gets a hardon every time he sees some s***ty K machine OF in the minors somewhere, and then he calls up Buddy Bell and they sword fight with their hardons over it. But thankfully Hahn's there to throw some water on the situation, cool those guys down and say "Let's just go get a pitcher instead." If you can produce your own catcher, that is a huge save on resources. We had to give up a decent starting pitcher to get the guy who have starting now at C.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 08:53 AM) Agree but in general I don't like drafting these guys and trying to devleop them. It's such difficult position to learn, and I'd much rather just let another team develop these players for me & then trade for them or sign them. Maybe later in the draft we take one. Hahn should keep focusing on pitching. Sox pitching prospects actually turn out once in a while. How many major league ready catchers are actually out there?

As a self-professed non-guru... 1. Rodon 2. Anderson 3. Hawkins 4. Davidson 5. Beck 6. Danish 7. Micah Johnson 8. Adolfo 9. Michalczewski 10. Adams

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:29 AM) The Sox can get 3/4 Dunn's production at 1/4 the cost and maybe better production just from Viciedo. There is zero chance Dunn is back. I'm not even saying Viciedo is anything special -- thing is, neither is Adam Dunn at this point. What, his bounce back year is 230/330/500? That's simply not worth what he'll want to get paid, and that's best case scenario as far as his production. Viciedo is going to be getting a pretty happy raise next year as he knocks another year off towards free agency.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 11:34 PM) Double that. Just sayin. 7/8 million makes some sense to me.

Glutten? Well we know it isn't Alexei.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 07:51 AM) At least one catcher left pro ball, IIRC. Of the other two, one is on the Kanny DL and has not played this year (Fisher) and the other (Ayala) is still in Advanced ST. If you have optimism here, please share it. Maybe Fisher and Ayala are both slated to play Rookie Ball this year, not exactly a lot of info to go on. It is two years post draft, and two of them were HS catchers. Not at lot of info is kind of the point of why it is extremely premature to be punting on a draft.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 10:11 PM) So what are the rules after Round 10? Is it back to the Wild West like under the old CBA, draft whoever you want wherever, throw all kinds of money at them? The slots go away but are there max amounts you can offer? Anything over $100k gets added to their costs vs their bonus pool.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 10:06 PM) They have a 15% buffer to go over their pool before they have any penalties though, right? No. 5% before draft pick penalties. Fines start at dollar #1.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 10:02 PM) Idk how they're going to sign both of these guys if they are both overslot. Don't know about Rodon, but there is no way they draft Adams if he demands were bad.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 09:53 PM) The Sox drafted 3 catchers in 2012, none of which have amounted to anything 2 years and declaring a draft dead? Geesh.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 09:32 PM) Heard he was target #1 after Schwarber was pegged for less $$. Cubs wanted Rodon big time too. Not a good time for the north side plan. It hasn't been a good time for the Cubs plan for about 110 years now.

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QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 08:23 PM) It seems like there has been incredibly few surprises tonight which is pretty rare for an MLB draft. The Cubs are the only ones who really went off of the rails tonight, followed by the Marlins.

Doug Padilla ‏@ESPNChiSox 9m Direct. of am. scouting Doug Laumann said it's unfair to put Rodon on a Chris Sale fast track. Sale arrived 2 mos. after he was drafted.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 07:21 PM) Can they make him our number 1 prospect already There is no question about that.

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 1m Our @clint_BA has Trea Turner going to Padres at No. 13.

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 1m Per http://MLB.com Prospect watch, Rodon's scouting grades are: Fastball: 65, Slider 70, Changeup 50, Control: 50. Overall: 65

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 07:16 PM) FYI WHITE SOX BONUS POOL Pick No. Pick value 1 3 $5,721,500 2 44 $1,282,700 3 77 $726,000 4 108 $485,400 5 138 $363,400 6 168 $272,100 7 198 $203,800 8 228 $162,100 9 258 $151,400 10 288 $141,300 TOTAL $9,509,700 AVG $950,970 MLB RANK* 3 Can't help but notice if the Sox pay their second round pick $1 million even, that makes it possible to pay Rodon $6 million

SoxNet.net ‏@SoxNet 9s It'll be telling to see what the Sox do with at #44. Do they overdraft to go underslot to free up $$ for Rodon?