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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 13, 2014 -> 02:53 PM) Micah Johnson and Nelvin Fuentes to Charlotte. David Cales activated from DL for BHAM. Charlotte roster is full again, and BHAM is at 24. Some things will need to give soon. Charlotte now has Sanchez, Saladino and Johnson in the middle infield. Davidson at 3B, and two 1B/Dh types in Wilkins/Black. That is a tight crowd to get all those people playing time. Then you have Keppinger coming back soon, which would seem to mean Garcia or Semien back to Charlotte - in which case it gets out of control. So what will give? What happens next? Also worth noting, this leaves a void in BHAM. They can have a filler guy there, but DeMichele doesn't appear ready to move up. I have never heard that name before.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 13, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) There used to be a group outing together with WSI. But they are our arch rivals. I spit on the ground they walk on. The softball games were lots of fun.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 13, 2014 -> 02:35 PM) Has SoxTalk ever done a group outing? I haven't been here that long so I don't know if that is something SoxTalk has done before but if a mod, or anyone for that matter, could let me know, I would appreciate it. Anyways, I will have my hands on some pretty serious promo codes for an upcoming summer game. I should have the final date and ticket prices soon but I'm thinking there is going to be three tiers (bleachers, outfielder reserves and lower reserves at $10, $12 and $20 respectively). There should be upper deck reserves for $10 as well but it's still getting sorted out. The tentative date is Friday, June 13th against the Royals. All tickets would be purchased through whitesox.com. I am just trying to gauge interest and see if that's something the posters would be interested in. I'd love to hear everyone's opinions and will start a thread if interest is there and the mod team is okay with it. Regardless of whether the site is interested in doing a group outing or not, I will definitely make the promo code available to any posters here who would be interested in a good game at a discounted price. Please let me know what you all think! DISCLAIMER: Moderating team - Please be diligent in correcting this post if it is outside of the site guidelines. I would totally understand if this were to be an issue. We have done outings in the past. If people were interested in doing something, I'd be down for trying.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 13, 2014 -> 02:09 PM) What do you think the team's record would be right now without Abreu? And what do you think Viciedo/Ramirez/Flowers would be hitting without his presence in the line-up and the hiring of Steverson? It's an argument that will go round and round in circles. That said, you can't judge the results this season...but you can look at some of the micro-managerial decisions and how he holds the team together in periods of adversity. Obviously, with Erik Johnson pitching how he was projected to, with Eaton healthy for the first 40 games as well as Garcia (which means a LOT less of DeAza/Danks/Sierra), Chris Sale, a real bullpen with a better LHR than Downs and a healthy Nate Jones...it would also be a different story. Only if you make it go in circles. The team is much better so far this year. The are either at, or exceeding the expectations that were put upon this team for ideal conditions, and that is without factoring in some very big adversity this year including losing their #1, #2, and #4 starters, their top set up guy, their starting 2B, 3B, CF, RF, and other assorted small injuries. Firing Ventura now would be a Steinbrenner type move, not a Reinsdorf one. If the Sox had the Cubs record, it might be a different story, but this team being around .500 right now is a minor miracle. Personally I think Ventura is closing to being a manager of the year candidate than an unemployment candidate. If the team collapses down the stretch after getting healthy I might change my tune, but as of today, there is zero chance that Robin Ventura is getting fired any time soon. I don't even see it as a possibility in this organization.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 13, 2014 -> 01:51 PM) So you guys honestly believe he will still be managing the White Sox in 2016 and 2017? I'm not seeing it. I think he's more of a transitional manager like Torborg or Manuel and we bring in a more experienced guy at some point to get them over the top. It's an interesting debate though...I don't think there's any argument that a lot of areas of managing (bullpen use/line-up construction, having that knack for making the right move at the right time) that haven't shown as much improvement as you'd like. Then you have 2012 as the counter-argument....with the counter-argument to that argument being almost anyone would have been better than Ozzie, that the defense and fundamentals have fallen off a cliff since the last two weeks of 2012 and that he basically "lost" last year's team before it was torn apart by all the mid-season trades. Balta and Fathom would certainly give you strong answers here. Having his "own" team without Dunn and Konerko on next year's roster will give us a more "objective" opportunity to properly evaluate. A healthy Avisail Garcia and more/better options than guys like Sierra/Leury Garcia/Nieto/DeAza will help as well. Same thing with the bullpen. Hahn's done Ventura no favors with guys like Cleto, Downs, Paulino and Keppinger. Ventura did a great job with that rookie-filled pen in 2012, but has looked lost/clueless at lots of points since then. Having Noesi/Carroll/Rienzo as the back of your rotation doesn't help, either. If Ventura wants to manage this team, he will be, unless the team takes a major step backwards when it shouldn't. If he was going to be fired, he would have been last year, and not given an extension. The fact that this is about a .500 team with all of the injury problems this year will go a long way towards securing that.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2014 -> 10:02 AM) And now you can play the fun game of listing 30+ names who have had Tommy John Surgery in the last couple months and saying you should be wary of drafting any pitchers while you're at it. And logically it is way worse to spend 8/9 figures on a pitcher that goes under the knife, versus one that you pay a 7 figures in the draft.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2014 -> 10:25 AM) One player (Sale) makes all the difference. It is why the Sox shouldn't go cheap with pick #3 and pick their top player available, even if it costs them more than they were hoping. Only one of those three teams had a top 10 pick during that time frame.

Kudo's to MrShowtime for the new banner. Just awesome.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2014 -> 09:58 AM) Once those go, it will be the equivalent of the Hurricane Sandy Storm Surge, worldwide, on an average day. The results just out suggest that those glaciers melting cannot be avoided; nothing we change will prevent it. Hopefully it'll take a few hundred years, but yeah, I'd be selling my oceanfront property if I had any. Might be time to look into an investment in Otisburg though.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2014 -> 09:45 AM) Anyone here belong to a club? If so, is it worth it? Do you enjoy it? Is it good networking? I worked at pro shop in one while I was still in HS. After I hit adulthood I realized how important and valuable some of those connections could have been. The right club gives great networking.

Chicago Bears Nation 1 hr · The Bears agree to terms on 4 year deals with 2 draft picks: 4th-round pick S Brock Vereen & 6th-round pick QB David Fales.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 12, 2014 -> 10:52 PM) Johnson and Danish have extremely high ceilings. Johnson has plus speed, good contact rates, high walk rates, a lot of glove potential, and has pretty nice power production thus far for a non-HR hitter. His ceiling is borderline first-tier 2B. Danish has an ace ceiling. There's a reason they said he has Jake Peavy stuff. Those players just happen to have pretty low floors, too. I like the Peavy comp on Danish, though for a bit different reason. Danish's stuff is unconventional. He isn't a guy you feel like you have seen before, and that makes hitters uncomfortable. It is the same reason submariners and knuckballers find niche's on teams. Peavy has a really unconventional motion and stuff too. Even with his reduced pitch speeds, he still gets lots of outs and K's. Danish strikes me in the same vein.

Am I reading this wrong, or is this from the other day?

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 12, 2014 -> 10:31 PM) Cleto gets $350,000 for that performance? Must be nice to live in the fantasy world of baseball. Crazy money. That's nothing for a baller like you.

QUOTE (oldsox @ May 12, 2014 -> 10:26 PM) They still have to pay him. lol. 350k isn't going to break their budget.

God I hate everything about Oakland, except MC Hammer. He's cool.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 12, 2014 -> 09:05 PM) He was hitting .280 with a .780 OPS on July 24th last year. Would've liked to see what the Sox could have gotten for him then. Out of the contenders, who needed a middle of the road LF or CF?

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 12, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) IT'S CALLED PSYCHOLOGY http://college-basketball.si.com/2014/05/1...ael-sam-tweets/ What a f***ing idiot. Go away, clown. I wonder if Sterling is taking notes?

QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ May 12, 2014 -> 08:32 PM) Dude no one is saying he had a lot of value just that he should have been dealt when his value was at it's highest. Again- not saying its high value but for him, it was his highest. Now, there is basically zero. At his highest, De Aza had a trade value of basically zero.

Chris Sale's nickname is the Condor? Say what? http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/salech01.shtml

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 12, 2014 -> 07:04 PM) Um its Sierra. Sierra hit a home run yesterday and has been hitting better then De Aza.. Not talking about Konerko at all Honestly Sierra might have a lower baseball IQ than De Aza. He has had some straight up baseball stupid moments in his short time here. He already had Hawk drop his line about no one missing a cutoff man.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 12, 2014 -> 06:55 PM) Ok so the guy who hits a home run yesterday (are only source of offense) sits the next day but the guy who makes a complete bonehead error, hasn't been hitting well, and makes stupid running mistakes all the time stays in the line up? That is what needed to happen according to Robin?? That makes a lot of sense lol. I am actually reading a post complaining about Paul Konerko not being in the line up. Well done.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 12, 2014 -> 05:34 PM) https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/4659828...6713472/photo/1 May De Aza never lead off again. If you keep him off of the bases and the field, he isn't bad... oh wait, he isn't even hitting .200.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 12, 2014 -> 05:09 PM) Which is perfect, the guy has talent, just needs some work. Considering they DFA'd the guy, I don't think they have a lot of faith in him.