FlaSoxxJim

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 08:23 AM) CO's are important. They do not make you ready to be C in C. You should have been the speechwriter, because that's the message that should have come across – and would have been effective. Not the one that did – that Community organizers have zero real responsibility or relevance in the GOP universe.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 08:22 AM) That was a direct result of the Obama camp derisively referring to Palin over and over again as "mayor of a small town" versus governor. They were mocking her job and her responsibilities. That may be, but it remains a really stupid pushback. There is less risk at the polls of potentially pissing off several hundred small town mayors compared to pissing off a couple million community organizers.

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 08:08 AM) Now that's just completely wrong. She was saying that a community organizer has no actual responsibilities. That followed Giuliani's speech, in which he literally scoffed at the very words. They both mocked the very idea of being a community organizer, and the ridicule contained nothing specific about Obama's experience. Mocking community organizers was probably the stupidest mistake in Wednesday's speeches. And, sadly, it wasn't even a calculated risk – it just never even dawned on the speechwriters that they would be belittling the hard work and passion of millions of "little people" by deriding community organizing as being a job with zero responsibility. They are rightly getting hit hard for it now by lots of service organizations on all sides of the political spectrum.

I also think he did well, better than expected and went with his strengths. I think the overall tone that McCain views the presidency as one final mission from a patriot and hero is a strength he rightly went with. The downside/reality is that it's hard to believe that a 25 year Washington insider can ever be an agent of change in Washington, no matter how many people call him a maverick. Also, a promise to bring change to Washington pales in comparison to the challenge set forth by the Obama campaign to work together to change the direction of a wayward nation. Lots of rhetoric on both sides to be sure. But if McCain is going to sink or swim with the American hero platform, a promise to change business as usual in Washington is not setting the bar high enough, imo.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 09:35 AM) "I just loved you back when you played the Dad on 'Alf'! Hey. . . Did Alf really eat cats or did he just pretend to eat them for the show?"

We all knew Huck was telling a whopper when he stated that Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States." But, I had no Idea how off-base he was. Or how few people it actually took to vote this nasty woman into mayoral office. The reality, then, is that Barracuda got just over 2% of the votes running for mayor of Frozen Mayberry that Biden did in the primaries before bowing out. Sounds like Huck has got a bad case of Karl Rove Math.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:25 PM) Yea, i could have given her speech. The part where you give it up for your high school sweetie Todd would be a little awkward.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:20 PM) Even if you don't agree with a word of what she said, it was a very well executed speech. For the most part, I agree. I think she did as good as she could have hoped to. At the same time, I think a lot of the attack on the opposition came off ineffective, mostly because they stuck with caricatures and easy, tired cliches.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:09 PM) I didn't say it was over the top, but I'm taking the general tenseness of the thread into account and trying to keep the peace. That just invites a fight. no worries.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:00 PM) That's pretty borderline. Careful. I know it's part of the job desription to keep peace and keep posters from crossing a line, but how was his statement borderline. two of McCains aides and three reporters reportedly heard him call his wife a c*** and a trollup (LOL) after she razzed him about his thinning hair. Commenting on that is off limits? Next we won't even be able to tell Cheney hunting accident jokes around here. . . sheesh.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 09:53 PM) I don't know how well this b****iness is gonna play outside of his base. Shut up, you sexist sexist person.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 09:10 PM) What an arrogant speech by Rudy. Hey, you don't take home third place in a Florida primary by being timid, buddy. B)

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 09:05 PM) God I miss 80s TV News sets. Yeah, but the ozone layer is thankful there is less Miss Clairol hairspray being used on the set now.

Presented totally without bias or comment, merely mild interest, Sarah Palin as local TV sports reporter Sarah Heath, circa 1988:

QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 05:07 PM) I want to see pictures of her from 20 years ago. Um, that's it, that's all I got. Miss Wasilla 1984

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 02:13 PM) The only reason you said that is because she is a female. Dan Quayle came right out of the same cut. It has happened before. There are plenty of other reasons possible for her pick. I believe it is sexist to assume she was ONLY picked because she is a female. OK, then I am being sexist, and so are a dozen women I work with or socialize with who all believe the extra X chromosome is the reason Palin is on the ticket. I apologize on behalf of all of us. For the record, I never once suggested she'd be unfit for the job because she has 5 kids. There are scores of other reasons, some of which have been discussed here and elsewhere on the site.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:49 AM) I took issue not with the idea that she was chosen because she was female - which is probably in part true - but the WAY you said it. Ah, I should have said spare X chromosome instead and not gone charging straight away for the genitalia. My bad.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:31 AM) Careful there. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:34 AM) Wow, that is really lowball stuff there. I'm not sure what line I'm crossing. Mrs. 18-Million Cracks in the Glass Ceiling has only one unique qualification distinguishing her from other potentials - her gender. She was picked to try to tap any would-be Hillary Clinton voters who were planning to vote for her solely because she is a woman.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:47 AM) If Alaska were a city, it would rank 17th in the nation. So, by extrapolation, there are 16 mayors and 46 governors more qualified to be VP. In this case though, most of them were missing the most important qualification: a vagina. Of course it's a political stunt.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 11:39 PM) Some of her stuff isnt horrible, but it fits perfectly into the "she's not experienced" narrative very easily. Does that include her belief that Alaskan pipeline projects are God's will?

QUOTE (BearSox @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 11:30 PM) That doesn't replace the fact negate the Conservative talking point though that the msm is in the tank for Obama and the Dems. The personal leanings of the broadcast personalities mean squat compared to the corporate special interests that own the media outlets. Any progressive voice that gains any sort of media traction is still just screaming into the wind. Obama has stated that he will support Net Neutrality and work for media reform so that corporate conglomerates can't buy up every last independent news outlet. Yet you suggest these entities are "in the tank" for him? Kristol really was right about the useful myth of the powerful liberal media. "I admit it. The liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures." -- William Kristol

QUOTE (YASNY @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 11:11 PM) Her speech is scheduled for Wednesday night, so this should be an open topic again. Is everybody convinced she'll make it to Wednesday night? If the very interesting McCain camp strategy of "Announce First, Vet Later" ends up turning up enough that Palin becomes radioactive, I assume they will get her to bow out gracefully, citing her parental demands and the desire to stay in Alaska, etc. After she formally accepts on Wednesday, it will take an RNC committee vote to get her off the ticket.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 11:04 PM) McCain is getting a free pass? The only coverage he gets is luke warm or negative. Obama is treated with massive amounts of positive coverage. Let me guess, FLaSoxxJim, the MSM is actually conservative and pro-McCain... right? errrr They are not necessarily pro-McCain in his stances so much as they are, inexplicably, wooed into never taking him to task on much of anything. Hopefully that is starting to change. As for that Liberal Media. . . well, I guess you got me there.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 11:00 PM) why you are welcome texsox Hey, get a load of the civility. And here i figured the "to each his own" comment was the equivalent of when Peter Jennings used to say to an interviewee, "Now, you're an intelligent man. . . surely, you're not suggesting. . . ". If he did that to someone twice in the course of the same interview, that was pretty much the same as him calling that person the dumbest SOB to ever walk into the studio.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 10:46 PM) nice post, completely useless, but what i expect from you on a topic like this. Says the unstoppable force to the unmovable object. If the MSM was one-tenth as left-leaning as your voluminous Filibuster screeds on the subject suggest, they'd not have given McCain a free pass on damn near every blunder, mis-statement and senior moment he has had this election. The press loves them some Mavericky McCain because he's so very Mavericky, and so they've most often treated him with kid gloves. Just what are those Crazy Lib-ruhl Media bastards playing at anyway??