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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 01:05 PM) To be honest, I am much to disgusted to care much about this person. If politics has gotten to the point where a major party has resorted to recruited amputee war vets to run for office, I'm really not interested in what the PR machine has to say about her. It was one thing to front a mom who lost her son in Iraq and use her to further your cause, it makes me ill that now we are moving onto the searching out the handicapped to do so. And to be honest I am surprised this doesn't offend you as the defender of the downtrodden and used. You make it sound like people are never recruited/badgered/cajoled into political careers by party affiliates. In truth, that is pretty much the way it happens. The type of people you would actually want to see in elected offices are usually smart enough to run away as fast as they can, but sometimes they can be talked into running for office.

QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 12:01 PM) I really should get started on my christmas shopping Sox Pride DVD's for everyone!!

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 09:53 AM) I never thought I be happier to see 2 men jump to hug one another.. and be able to have my emotions run wild everytime I see it.. Enter Homosexual here_________________________________________________ Been a while since the Evil Misquoter reared his ugly head. . .

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 11:46 AM) So would that mean, if targeted assasinations of leaders were considered necessary in the President's mind, it would be legal? So what Gonzalez is saying is that those five words absolve the President of every blame possible? This is sounding worse, not better. I agree. Plus, it's a hard sell to consider wiretaps and email intercepts to be a "use of force" as Congress intended.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) Gonzales is saying Bush's actions are legal... This ought to be an interesting fight. http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle....PING.xml&rpc=22 But other than the 'whereas' clauses that allow all "reasonable and necessary" means in the statute he cited, it seems not to be the case. Almost all legal experts (not in the administration's pocket) will tell you that the whereas clauses are not legally binding but merely clarifying. The "resolving" clauses are the portions that are legally binding, and they stipulate that the President is required to operate within the Constitution. You are correct though, this is going to get very interesting. And if Karl gets indicted in Plamapalooza before the end of the year and GWB is forced to fly blind on the pushback, it's going to get very ugly as well. If you listeded to GWB's press conference this morning you could hear the agitation in his voice when he was admonishing Congress for filibustering Patriot Act renewal and the press and the unnamed leaker/whistleblower for acting irresponsibly.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 12:51 AM) Not saying that it is OK because some Dems knew it was going on, but wondering why they didn't say anything if they thought this was so bad? To get all indignant like they didn't know this was happening is simply pure politics. Sure, Pelosi SAYS she had reservations at the time. You know that is a lie, because if she did, her pure hatred for Bush would have sent her running to the NY Times, or leaking a memo somewhere. Why did they not insist on hearings for this? They insisited for hearings over Iraq, this certainly seems just as important. As far as Pelosi running to the NYT, well it doesn;t appear that it would have done much good seeing as the NYT appeased the administration an sat n the story for a year. Potentially saving the 2004 election for GWB in the process, btw. As for you intimation that Pelosi could have just "leaked a memo" somewhere, as if that were her modus operandi, please list for me the memos Pelosi has leaked to the press thus far so I can better understand this point. Thank you.

I'm so funnny when it comes to Chhristmas/carols. I'm typically a major humbug until right before Christmas, because I'm trying to get work doone at the end of the year. But then a couple of days before Christmas, I reallly get into the swing of things. humming carols and such ( I used to play trumpet in Salvation Army pickup brass ensembles and before that in high school pickup brass Christmas outfits – samn good money in that going from party to party playing a couple of songs att each and enjoying all that spiked eggnog. . . ). My big problem is that, come Jamuary 2nd, everyone around me is back to bbeing grupmy while I'm still humming the Christams carols for weekson end. Personal favorites: Nat's Christmas Song Jingle Bell Rock Spreengstein's Santa Clause is Comin' to Town. Bingle and Bowie on Drummer Boy Kinks' Father Cheristmas Give Us Some Money Berle Ives' Frosty CChuck Berry' Run Run Rudolph Vince G. Trio's Peanuts Christmas

QUOTE(Texsox @ Dec 18, 2005 -> 08:09 AM) There is a Scout from a Troop near here that plays the bag pipes. I can't believe I'm writing this, but they are sooooo cool. When he gets it going in the dining hall it is truly an amazing instrument. In the right hands, yes. But I have heard some bad bagpipe playing in my time, and it is not pretty.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 18, 2005 -> 10:26 PM) So he's just being a f***ing asshole? That's it? No other reason? You tell me then, Kap. Read up on it, when you get the time, and come up with the cogent reasons necessitating this behavior that all of the legal minds not in George's pocket can't seem to come up with. And I don't think it's just about his being an asshole (which he is of course). I deal with assholes every day of my life. I doubt any of them will ever find themselves in a position where they can by executive fiat disregard the statutes and the 4th and 2nd amendments with impunity to illegally authorize spying on American citizens, and to be so brazen about it as to not only say he'll continue to do it but to also blame the whistleblowers and the MSM for being the root of the problem. Despite 5 years of being pretty much bulletproof, the president is now in legal jeopardy. GWB is in play.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 18, 2005 -> 08:43 PM) Hey... I missed everyone. I'm not sure what I think of this yet. I hate the thought of it, and I'm against blasting through the Constitution for it. But Flaxx, hypothetically, what if you or your family were a target, and they could glean information to stop it? Meaning, say your favorite mall was a target. And your wife was shopping in there, and through a wire tap, they gained information and arrested the assholes who could or would do this? What then? This issue has happened 30 times... out of how many TRILLIONS of phone conversations since 9/11? Yet, the left wants to make this the biggest issue since ... 9/11. It's wrong... but how wrong is it? I can't quite wrap my head around that yet. It seems that the wind is knocked out of hypotheticals like this when you take into consideration everything that has been said about the ease in which emergency sire taps and such can be procured just as long as the peperwork seeking formal authorization is filed within 72 hours. Why would protocol, the law, and the Constitution not be upheld by the President if he could still have accomplished what he wanted to within legal/constitutional channels? Unless he has decided that the law and the Constitution are beneath him.

Let me add this interesting bit of infortmation. Not only is Sen. Feingold at the forefront of those taking GWB to task for his disregard of the law and the US Constitution, he was also asking questions that are nor pregnant with meaning back during the confirmation hearings of Alberto "Abu" Gonzales for Attorney General. Deceitful, arrogant bastards from top to bottom. Of course, Everybody Does It®

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 06:01 AM) :crickets: Only because the site was misbehaving for me last night when I saw Nuke had posted this. I tried posting the response below but couldn't keep a connection. --- Yes it does. And that is good news. We know that the election was the easy part and actually having the Iraqis forge a government out of all of the sectarian turmoil is going to be the big challenge. But I was as happy as anyone to see yesterdy proceed relatively smoothly.

This is our first year in a new house with three orange trees and one grapefruit tree in the yard. The orange trees are young and only put out a couple of runty fruits, but the grapefruit tree's branches are sagging with good looking big-ass grapefruit. I tried one for the first time last week and it was just a little tart. I'm hoping we get a couple of good frosts over the next two weeks or so because ironically that really sweetens up the citrus. We also have a banana plant that failed to mast. Hopefully next year.

QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 01:49 AM) King Kong was a gorilla. He's an ape, not a monkey. Thank you.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:22 PM) WTF have they been feeding you down in Florida? Alligator.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:40 PM) The word "holiday" derives from Holy Day, a direct reference to the birth of Christ. I challenge you to substantiate that etymology – that 'holiday' derives directly from Christmas and not from any and all other observed holy days. Certainly there were scads of pre-Christian and non-Christian holy days (we're all well aware that early Christians coopted an existing Roman holy day feast on which to build the birth of Christ observance). And there are other Christian holidays other than Christmas that have been around for a long time. What is known about Christmas that conclusively tells us that is where the contracted holiday (= holy day) comes from?

QUOTE(Soxy @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:20 PM) I just think it's kind of funny. I actually was called that (in all seriousness) for suggesting that honey bees do not have language. Hubbawhah?!? Honeybees have no language???? I can only assume that this statement was not pulled out of the ether, and that you have some familiarity not only with von Frisch's controversial "waggle dance" language hypothesis but also with the more recent refutation by Wenner, Rosin, and others in the olfaction-over-body-language camp. These authors suggest that the dance is not instructional language but merely an attention-getting mechanism so other bees gather around and pick up olfactory cues from the dancer to alert them to the location of nectar. I've long come down on the von Frisch side of the debate, as has none other than the Loer of the Hymenoptera himself, E.O. Wilson. And there is a lot of published argument against the conclusions of the olfactory grops as basically being too close-minded to be considered empiricists. As one entomologist noted in a Science Weekly letters page a couple of months ago: Telling us the experiments that have been done by the Wenner group prove her point is not good enough, since the scientific community has already judged those experiments inadequate. It's easy enough to run around shouting that people (other scientists) are blind and dumb and subject to "social control". That's not science, it's political rhetoric, and a waste of time. There was some very convincing work published in support of von Frisch back in May by Joe Riley and his colleagues. They use radar to demonstrate that von Frisch apparently had it right all along. So what say you, Miss Bees Have No Language?? You know, you just might be a speciesist after all. :headshake

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 05:05 PM) Want a good laugh? http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1639461/ Warning: tasteless immature humor. Funny though. It's good to know I'll know some other passengers on the Express Bus to Hell.

I really like the days when nobody else is around.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 03:47 PM) haha i actually did, 12 years. Me too. But I've made a full recovery.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) ohhhhh easy, i was only asking cause i didn't think schools have paddled students in a while. bla You didn't go to Catholic school, did you?

I won't join the debate as to whether he "got what he deserved" or not. But I'd like clarificatioin on the policy of posting gratuitous death images on the site, regardless of whether or not the thread title has an appropriate warning (which yours did, thanks Chaos.). And, Chaos, your post prompted the question, but my point is not to attack you or even the thread. Just want to know where the site stands. Admins/Mods, what's the policy? Edit: Thanks, Rex, and again Chaos it wasn't about this thread in particular. I just thought we might think twice before turning the forum into a snuff film.

It took two years or so for the first pocket XM receivvers to come out, iirc, so I think Sirius is still just playing catchup and they will be out in a few months. If that is the case then Sirius blew it bigtime by not having that hardware ready for the Stern migration.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 01:24 PM) President Telly was way better. Thanks to having kids I get that.