FlaSoxxJim

QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 01:21 PM) I knew about ol' Grover.

:usa http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1409424

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) This one did. As did this one – at least about the terms served. As for issuing two coins, I didn't know that was the plan before reading the article.

QUOTE(mreye @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) Everyone is this room is now dumber for listening to that. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul. Dumber?!? How many Soxtalkers honestly knew Cleveland served two nonconsecutive terms, and how many knew the plan was to mint two separate Cleveland coins in note of that? Love that film, btw.

The Tooth Fairy uses Sacajaweas (sp?) at our house, so we always have to have some on hand. The dead Preznitz will be a cool series. My favorit two will be Grover Cleveland and Grover Cleveland. But maybe not in that order.

QUOTE(mreye @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) Hmmm, I think someone said that in post #9. Hmmm, and now a news story has added weight to the assessment of the lone individual referenced in post 9 So there. (Stupidhead!)

Not as brilliant as The Onion's "Our Dumb Century" collection of fake historic news stories, but some of them are good for a chuckle.

So far the forged ballot story is NOT being corroborated. Maybe a fake story floated to cast doubt on the election. http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-12-14-voa56.cfm

QUOTE(LDF @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:57 PM) then why even have a msg board To keep our sodium levels up?

Strength Down the Middle ('59 White Sox) by Larry Kalas is excellent. It's almost a day by day reminiscence of the 1959 season from when the author was 10 years old or so.

Good stuff. I like the Python nod on the last one:

QUOTE(Cknolls @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 03:08 PM) How about dead people who vote in East St. Louis???? They got nothing on the dead people voting in Chicago.

Yesirree. All better now. :rolly :rolly

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 02:43 PM) There's a good good chance that I'm going to get to escort a tour to Brazil in December. Very nice. Still a place that is on my To Do list.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 01:01 PM) I don't know, but if it is, why did the cops force them to shut down? Did the music play outside? There was a car accident outside the home in all the jammed traffic, so they voluntarily shut it down. Kind of stinks, but it's probably tough to be their neighbors at Christmas. No, they did not play the music out loud (again, in deference to the neighbors). Signs told viewers to tune their FM dials to a low-watttage broadcast of the music the lights were synchd to.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 01:08 PM) so you're saying Kerry lost the election on purpose? aka, it was 'thrown'. Gore = 2000 Kerry = 2004

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:33 PM) Indeed. But they can also be altered. Just saying. It bugs me that (not necessarily you, Jim or LCR but I want to make a point) a lot of people in this country thinks the elections are all thrown when a Republican wins a "big" election. There will ALWAYS be irregularities. It's impossible to stop. Yet, Diebold "threw" the election. Katherine Harris chumped Al Gore. I could go on in some congressional elections... but the point's the same. By in large, the elections system works. And it makes me cringe to see all these conspiracy stories, because people are bitter and pissed off about what happened 5 years ago and can't let it go. I'm sure we would all be s***ting rose petals if Al Gore were president right now. But he's not, and we're supposedly 10,000 times worse off for it, so now the elections are all rigged. Just because they may be impossible to entirely stop, that is no reason to not make inquiries into the irregularities. And when the "irregularities" happen with alarming regularity it is a responsible question to ask why, and what can be done about it.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) Ricist? Are we gonna start seeing conspiracy blogs now linking hanging chads to domestic rice paddys and irrigation controversies in California? I thought a Ricist was an avid Condi supporter. . . ?

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) dude, punch cards are ricist. You need to start reading the New York Times. Just the 'butterfly ballot' variety.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) More like 2000, 2002, 2004, and upcoming 2006. Hey - all kidding aside, anything's hackable. And for you all to suggest that there indeed was a grand scheme to hack votes so GWB could win Ohio... that's juuuuuuuust a little too far for me. (preparing now to see 7,856 links about how it happened from lib blogs). Punch cards or optical-scanned cards that can be physically preserved/protected and can be manually verified are quite a bit less hackable.

QUOTE(CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:11 AM) why would anyone be concerned about faulty, hackable, and unverifiable voting machines? Sadly, there's a whole lot of folks who think exactly that way.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:03 AM) We still havent given up the whining and conspiracy theories about the '04 election I see. :rolly Frankly, I'm more concerned about the potential to rig '06. :rolly :rolly The implosion of Diebold will go a long way toward addressing those concerns.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) Don't forget the Diebold machines owned by Bush's GREAT, BEST friend. We really need to get that conspiracy theory right! Some pretty interesting developments on the old Diebold newsfront these last two weeks, I'd say. Refusal to reveal source code. CEO steps down. Insider trading bombshell. Proof that the 'unhackable' memory cards can be hacked and votes riggged. Good stuff.

This really shows how far the Middle East still has to go before it will be on par with our form of democracy. I mean, if they were serious about stealing the election they'd be using Diebold voting machines instead of trailer trucks full of ballots. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/14/internat...agewanted=print

Pretty boneheaded move for a kid who's supposedly so smart. Idiot