StrangeSox

seriously, lol WTF? was my literal reaction

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 10:36 AM) This is the guy that earlier in the year sent pictures of himself dressed in a tiger suit to staffers.

The Standard Model of particle physics predicts that you need the Higgs Boson, but so far they haven't been able to find it because the particle accelerators didn't operate at the right energy levels. CERN now does, so they may actually be able to find evidence of the Higgs and further confirm the Standard Model. IIRC it's the one big hole in it at this point. The Higgs is also what gives things mass. As for what it could mean, I'm sure it'd be a huge deal in the world of particle physics. Beyond that, I dunno.

Conservative Fantasies About Debt and Default

Talks have collapsed, with Boehner calling Obama this afternoon to tell him he's not going to meet with him any more. Obama held a very angry press conference a short while ago, calling the Republicans out for their unwillingness to negotiate and demanded that Boehner, Pelosi, Reid and McConnell be at the White House tomorrow with plans on how they're going to raise the debt ceiling by August 2nd.

I have everyone on ignore, I simply anticipate what subject we're going to be rehashing

He's on ignore, of course.

Congress Continues Debate Over Whether Or Not Nation Should Be Economically Ruined 3:1 odds against them actually raising the debt ceiling in time.

Mulley & Hanley: Vicious Assholes? LOL.

My wife wondered if she was pregnant now.

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 12:22 AM) No, you're absolutely right. That's exactly what I was getting at. I have my personal reasons for loving Israel, and while I won't discuss them here because I don't want to turn this into an Israel vs Palestine thread, they definitely go far beyond "well I'm a conservative!" But honestly, with the obvious intolerance Rosie practices, I wouldn't be at all surprised if she actually thought Israel was a Christian nation. I just can't see her having such ardent support for a country of "Satan worshippers". The lady disowned her Catholic daughter for daring to travel abroad, for crying out loud. Probably comes from wanting Israel around to support end-times prophecies.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 03:51 PM) Democrats can be neoliberals. QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 06:54 PM) Well we could pass the farse the White House is calling spending cuts. They do not take place for several years, future Congresses can ignore them. Now that is the way to cut the deficit. Sounds like the healthcare bill. A big ole pile of the stinky stuff. But it comes from the mouth of the man who voted against raising the debt ceiling while he was in the Senate in 2007, so it must be Gospel. This is bizarre coming after a post deriding Obama and mocking support for his reelection.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:34 PM) Nice movement of the goalposts. Still I would love to see those numbers too. http://siteresources.worldbank.org/SOCIALP...ets-DP/0302.pdf http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/downl...p1&type=pdf

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:35 PM) Economic Mobility in the US I don't want this to get buried since it directly addresses the idea that the poor deserve to be poor because they're dumb and lazy.

I still want a consensus that "ownership of consumer electronics" is a s***ty measurement of poverty, damn it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:37 PM) That was very clearly what you were trying to imply earlier. I suppose indirectly that this is true: rent and food assistance means you may be able to work less and spend more time getting an education, which could lead to getting out of poverty. Poverty rates in the US, for reference.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:36 PM) The Defense Department is a Social Program? So were the Bush tax cuts!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:34 PM) Nice movement of the goalposts. Still I would love to see those numbers too. I didn't move goalposts because I never claimed social safety nets are meant to lift people out of poverty if poverty is defined by income levels.

Economic Mobility in the US

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:31 PM) It doesn't? Tell me how many people leave poverty based on social programs? A more accurate question would be how many people avoid destitution, homelessness and starvation thanks to social programs?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:23 PM) We have spent trillions trying to end class privileged. I think Adam Dunn has a better batting average and less strike outs than our social programs. Also we undid a whole lot of that in the last 3 decades thanks to supply-side economics which led to wage stagnation for most and an exploding wealth and income gap.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:24 PM) Yes on housing, no on children because I chose (ZOMG!) to bag that s*** so that I WOULDN'T be poor. And I love that I can't use the excuse that poor people are poor because of some "poor" decisions in life, but you can throw out that every poor person is incredibly stupid and in total dependence on someone else to get them through the day? If you can play xbox, you can figure out how to go to college and better your life. It's not rocket science. Hey nice job dodging all my questions regarding potential advantages you held and then claiming I said poor people are incredibly stupid. edit: have you ever taken a class on or studied or read about sociology?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:25 PM) So your answer is to keep hitting Adam Dunn? You can drop the really bad analogy that doesn't make sense any time now.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:23 PM) We have spent trillions trying to end class privileged. I think Adam Dunn has a better batting average and less strike outs than our social programs. The answer is to give in to or even accelerate inequalities?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 05:21 PM) 22k of "cash income" right? So, really we're talking about the expenses of 2 people (assuming two parents, one if only one adult in the family) since the kids are paid for with government checks. Oh and food is covered. And unemployment probably doesn't factor in. s***ty and not a fun life? Absolutely. What most people think of when they think "poor?" Probably not, which was in the beginning of his article - most people associate poor with dilapidated housing, no AC, no proper ways to cook meals, etc etc. That's not necessarily the case. Hey, they're not as bad off as Somalians, therefore lets cut all social spending! They don't really need it! This is just another form of blame the victim.