StrangeSox

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 03:27 PM) Right that's not the quote StrangeSox posted. I paraphrased because I was too lazy to dig up the quote again. He said electing Obama or Hillary would be surrendering to terror. Not much difference between that and what I said. I'll rescind my paraphrased quote and go with what he actually said. It's still BS over-the-top rheotoric that a majority of this country is just fed up with at this point.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 03:12 PM) Nope I don't think democrats want to lose to Al Qaeda, I just think we have different ideas of how to win. That's a perfectly reasonable position. Rheotoric like "Hillary and Obama want to surrender Iraq to Al Queda and let them attack America" is just BS for the ultra-conservative audience he was pandering to.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 03:05 PM) If you don't feel that's right, then fine. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Reading through his speech again, he made some good points. But he just went way over the top with some of the rhetoric to the point that it was comical.

FYI, here's a transcript of the speech: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/07/us/polit...transcript.html

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) Yeah, because 8 seeds never, ever have a chance against 1 seeds. Why waste that round? I mean, I can't even remember a time in my lifetime when an 8 seed has beaten a 1 seed. I went back through the '87 season. 7 teams with a 5 seed or lower made it to the conference finals. Houston, a 6 seed, was the only won to win the Finals. More often than not, it was 1-2 or 1-3 seeds in conference finals and 1 or 2 seeds in the finals. I still think that the NBA playoffs are way too long and should be shortened by a round.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 01:00 PM) Man, that's sad. I just looked at the standings now and the Bulls tied New Jersey for the 8th seed in the playoffs after the win last night. The NBA playoffs are a joke. When you have 3 teams under .500 in one conference potentially getting in, you know something is wrong. Cut the field in half.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 01:59 PM) The helicopter pilot was suppossed to be the airline pilot and he is now on the island now. Were the other three people supposed to be on the plane and the island finally got them? Hurley was not suppossed to be on the plane, you could say the same thing for Jack (trying ot get out of Sydney ASAP), Kate (was captured), Sun & Jin (Sun was suppossed to ditch Jin at the airport) not sure about Sayid. Very interesting idea, hadn't thought about that.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 01:49 PM) Unless the pilot was wrong on their location because his instrementation was wrong from the islands electromagnitism He would have known approximately where he was heading before he got around the island, but that's not really important. We know that the real Oceanic 815 cockpit is on the island, and that the fake plane had an in-tact cockpit at the bottom of the ocean. Also, if I remember correctly, the plane in the ocean was almost entirely complete, just torn in half in the middle. There's no way that what they found was really Oceanic 815 or any part of it.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 01:43 PM) Didn't a large section of the plane go down in the ocean? Some of it would have, but the wreckage clearly showed the cockpit, which we know was on the island. It also looked like it was near Indonesia, which is nowhere near the pilot said they were when they went down.

QUOTE(iamshack @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 01:19 PM) Why was the plane underwater? Was that whole thing planted? Seems that way. Plane was planted to keep anyone from looking and stumbling upon the island.

I buy 90% of my clothing at Old Navy. They seem to be the only place I can find 32-36 pants (I'm 6'3" and barely crack 155, hummingbird-like metabolism). They also have a nice selection of medium-tall shirts so that long sleeves don't stop before my wrists.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 10:52 AM) I have never listened to a rightwing radio talk show in my life so I wouldn't know. It was like "Mitt Romney does Stephen Colbert as Sean Hannity." I was waiting for a rimshot after some of the lines.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 10:42 AM) I wouldn't think so. Why would the first guy have such an awful reaction to it if it was just some plane that went down? Maybe you are right, maybe they were compelled to get involved? I guess we'll find out. I just don't see that dude reacting in that way unless something really bad had happened on the island and it triggered his memory. Plus, the status quo for this season has been flash-forwards, not flash-backs. Well, we know Oceanic 815 was reported "found" before those people showed up. It was sometime during Season 3, so they had to have seen that footage before they came. He also said that he didn't know why he got so upset.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 10:15 AM) I thought it was a great speech. The best speech he ever made. The speech was just loaded with about every right-wing talkshow radio host cliche. It was almost like a parody of them it was so over the top.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 09:58 AM) It was pretty solid, though I'm not a huge fan of creating even more questions before answers, but that's the status pro quo of Lost isn't it? haha. Something bad is obviously going to go down considering how negatively effected all these folks who are after Ben are in the "flash forwards." I actually thought those were more flash-backs to some time after Oceanic 815 went down, but before those people came to the island.

QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 02:52 PM) I didn't watch the movie, but with the tv spots and trailers....how can Meet the Spartans take in tops at the box office? Horrible waste of film and talent Movies like this just make me sad. They're not even spoofs in the same vein that Neilson and Brooks films are. They just recreate a scene from a movie or make a pop-culture reference, add in a fart/ gay joke, and call it a day. I don't understand how these writers keep getting paid.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 02:02 PM) The government already pays half the costs. That's the problem in a nutshell. The government can set rules to insure the private sector provides adequate health care for all, but the private sector needs to be the driving force. There is nothing more inefficient than a government run institution. The current health insurance industry is a case study in inefficiency, bureucracy, and redundancy.\ Personally, I would lean more towards stiffer government regulation but still allowing the private sector to work it out. But something bothers me about them deciding to deny a liver transplant based on the bottom line and not medical opinion.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 01:52 PM) Government intervention is not going to make things better in the health care field. I have said it before, and I will say it again, adding people to the system isn't going to improve the level of care. In fact if you take the profit motivation out of the field, you will get people who work in medicine leaving the field for more profitable areas. Think teacher burnout. The more the government requires of them, the more of a shortfall of teachers there are. Go figure. The government might be able to force medical providers to cut costs, but there are going to be serious problems with the system if they do. These are the same people that take months to get you a passport or a social security check, why does everyone assume that they can handle medicine better than the private sector? Because the private sector makes decisions to deny treatment based on the bottom line and not medical opinion. That's just the nature of the beast. And, clearly, something has to be done. Costs are going through the roof. Th government already pays almost half of all medical costs.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 12:02 PM) Wait, he actually said that bit about France? Seriously? I thought you were joking. If not, well, I have some Frencherds to make fun of. Paraphrased: I don't want America to become a 21st Century France (chorus of boos). Still a great country, but not a superpower.

So far he's used this speech to attack liberals, France, unions, "activist" judges, Harvard, and porn, and somehow linked porn to single-parent families.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 11:48 AM) With the delicious cheese or without the cheese? Because I really like good cheese. Wisconsin cheese is better, and Napa Valley wine is better! If you don't believe that you're not a true American!

He just can't stop with the really lame jokes and jabs at liberals, Harvard, France, etc.

Warning us that if we don't vote conservative, we'll be the "21st century France"

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 11:29 AM) Another great example of why hate Hillary, how many other candidates do we judge by their spouses? Bill Clinton is a former President and a HUGE part of her campaign. I'd say its fair to judge her on it.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 11:32 AM) Now that you refered to FDR by his initials, and of course JFK was widely used, it reminded me that LBJ was supposed to have some dalliances as well. What's Obama's middle name again? Just listen to right-wing talk radio, you'll never miss "Barack HUSSEIN!!!! Obama"