StrangeSox

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:44 PM) I don't think he'd do that. He can't hype up Garland as being this excellent candidate he wants on the bench and then dump him. Obviously, he doesn't have an election to lose, but that would be really s***ty to Garland. I also don't think he's as partisan as some other people in politics where he'd try to maximize the liberal-ness of the court. Even a moderate liberal like Garland is still a big swing from Scalia. Right, I think Obama would be more than happy to have Garland confirmed even if in an ideal world he could appoint someone more liberal. He's set this up as a win-win for him. Either he gets someone he wants confirmed to the SC, or Republicans obstruct any and all nominees and it helps Democrats in the fall, making it more likely that the replacement will be chosen by someone ideologically similar to him. The next President will probably have at least one more spot to fill, and it's almost guaranteed if they are a two-termer.

Well I'm just going off of what I've read, I haven't actually watched that show.

For a long time, Scarborough was a bit of a Trump cheerleader. He only very recently turned against him.

can someone sum up what the hell is going on here?

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. 88 => HH => Heil Hitler Huh, I had always heard the flak gun explanation, but that seems to be the 'official' understanding.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:40 AM) I refuse to stoop to judging candidates on the basis of who supports them. I'm not voting for Trump because he's a pompous ass and I don't agree with his policy positions. I don't care if his supporters are white supremacists or black lesbians. He is getting the widespread and enthusiastic support of white supremacists because of his racial politics, though.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:41 AM) Ah. Apparently I'm naive to those symbols being that way. 88 I've never even heard about. But the Celtic Cross, I see that all the time in various Irish uses, so are you sure that's what that one is? It's not 100% a white power symbol, but it very frequently is especially when used as a tattoo: Combined with "88," a common white power reference to 88mm flak guns used by Nazi Germany, it's a 100% lock that she's all about white power.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:34 AM) I obviously despise Trump, but, what are you getting at with these photos? I don't think I like where you are going here. The Celtic Cross on her right hand and the "88" on her left hand are white power symbols.

PBS Newshour story on first time Trump voters/volunteers featured this woman:

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:33 AM) So I have to travel up to Manitowac for a deposition next week. I think i'm going to try and get a photo of the Avery sign and drive around to see what the town/area is like. The Avery place is a ways out of Manitowac. It's over on a country road in Mishicot probably about 20-30 minutes from Manitowoc proper. The Courthouse Pub in downtown Manitowoc is pretty good. If you're up closer to Two Rivers, Kurtz is a decent German restaurant that sometimes has dry-rubbed ribs.

Congrats!

Unfortunately the main criticism I've seen of him from the left is his record on civil liberties and criminal justice.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 04:38 PM) And then to blame all of the white mans problems on minorities, and tell the rest of the world to shove off! Trump is a temper tantrum. Being the governor of a 330 million person diverse nation is hard, being governor of the most influential country in the world is harder and more important. You want to change those things, you work on getting a bunch of house/senate/pres candidates that offer to change consitution to prevent that money influence. Removing the leadership doesn't remove their influence, they'll just fund the next groups. This one neat trick to topple corporate influence that politicians hate!

But you still haven't explained how corporate influence actually goes away, and you don't seem to understand why this model of trumps is limited to his particular circumstances. He can self fund his campaign because he is a billionaire. He started with decades of name recognition and media prominence. He's gotten billions in free media coverage already. How does this translates to any other presidential candidate, let alone Senate, house, Governor, state and local races? Campaigning is hard, grinding work that requires dedicated staff and volunteers and money to pay for advertising, rallies, gotv efforts etc. Trump has been able to short circuit that, but again that's because he's trump. If you're concerned about an oligarchy, the last thing you should be supporting is a campaign model that only billionaires can afford.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 04:07 PM) I don't agree with B>W or his support of Trump, but Christ if this isn't just a typical SS post here. "You don't agree with me therefore you're a deluded irrational moron!" Just call him a bigot and we can all go home. Nah, he's been called out by people all over the political spectrum for posting a combination of nonsense and stuff that simply isn't true regarding trump and his positions. He ignores the numerous corrections and challenges to some of his claims, and he just waives away the rest by insisting it doesn't matter for unexplained reasons. I don't think he's wilfully lying, I think he's convinced himself of the nonsense ie has deluded himself.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) I showed the video of his literally disavowing of Duke but I guess that's handwaving away. I found it ridiculous he had to do it every interview. It's gotcha political discussion at its absolute worst. A grand wizard just supported Hillary too but I'm sure she won't be asked about that. And she shouldnt. Stop wasting your breath on these people. This is the reason these discussions go literally nowhere. You're not convincing me and I'm not convincing you here, clearly. I commented on his birtherism the last page back and it really goes hand and hand with everything. You're being played by even giving it attention. I've addressed this Sanders stuff too already like a lot. We're going in circles on everything. I like him. He'd be my second choice. He just has had 0 chance of getting elected and getting threatened by his supporters was a big turnoff for me, but I don't really hold it against him. What I do hold against him was his response to the aftermath of Friday. Man that's a lot of hand waving and not addressing anything. You're right, these conversations go nowhere because you've deluded yourself on issue after issue and incident after incident when it concerns trump. Paying attention to trumps s***ty racial politics is "being played", ok. Eta a search of the last page doesn't show any comments on birtherism

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) I understand his positions just fine. Sorry it's hard to reply 10 to 1 on here at work. On the racial side, I've addressed it 1000 times before including conversations with you. I don't think think there's much left to say. I'd say that the closest you've come to addressing his racial demogogeury was to hand-wave away the KKK/David Duke stuff. I don't recall you really commenting on his birtherism, Mexicans=racists/criminals, deport all illegals, ban all Muslims, retweet black crime "statistics" from literal neo-nazis, pigs-blood-bullets, immigrants-as-dangerous-snakes-parable etc. If trade protectionism and getting money out of politics are your primary concerns, why do you gravitate towards Trump instead of Sanders? Sanders also strongly opposes the TPP, and his SC nominees are much more likely to overturn CU than Trump's would be.

You want to address any of the shortcomings in your understanding of trumps positions or why you are choosing to ignore the racial demagoguery that's central to his campaign?

Trump supporters' reluctance to vote for delegates with foreign sounding names may have cost him two delegates in Illinois. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/election-resul...;site=WBBMTVELN

I hope trump tells the bullets in pigs blood story again, it highlights how he's primarily concerned with trade policies and isolationism and not at all racist demagoguery

He's also gotten something like 2 billion dollars worth of free media coverage in this campaign. He's a master of manipulating the media, but that's not a sign of actually getting money out of politics. It only works if you're a billionaire reality TV star. Buehrle if your main concern is the tpp, why not support Sanders rather than trump Eta or if your main concern really is money in politics, I'm betting a Sanders or even a Clinton SC appointee will be much more likely to overturn citizens untied than trump would be.

Also his health plan is the same thing the rest of the Republicans propose and would kick millions off of their insurance in favor of massive deregulation. You've been duped.

Trumps tax plan has massive cuts for the wealthy and shafts the rest of us. He has also said Americans are paid too much. Real man of the people.

QUOTE (Brian @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 07:45 AM) I'm a Bernie supporter that will vote Hillary, less than enthusiastically. I've liked how this post explained voting as harm reduction and not as a personal statement. http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2012/09/dealbreakers

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 08:10 PM) Most democrats believe in democratic policies not Republican ones.