StrangeSox

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:38 PM) And if you have some sort of animosity towards how this was handled, I would think the venom should be at the NFL and Ravens. Why not say the NFL has to donate a lot of money to DV, why not say the Ravens do? Why not have the Ravens forfeit the season, or actually hit the people who "failed to appropriately handle it". That seems to be logical and an appropriate response. Plenty of people are strongly criticizing Rice, the NFL and the Ravens?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:32 PM) Im pretty sure no one wants to "acquit" Ray Rice. Im pretty sure people want to "investigate" before we "execute". Not really a crazy idea, especially given the fact that this occurred half a year ago, and now all of a sudden everyone just knee jerk reacts. /shrugs You have to protect the rights of the worst the same way you protect the rights of the best. Believe that or dont, its a philosophical debate that you have to live with yourself. But itd be pretty hypocritical of me if I just completely forget what I stand for every time there is a "bad" guy who needs to be "punished". Lynch mobs arent my thing. Strangesox, Laugh all you want. But please do not take some sort of "protect defendant's" stance in the future and not expect to be shown for the hypocrisy. It is what it is. The worst deserve the same rights as the best. Im shocked someone as "liberal" as you doesnt believe in such a core idea of justice. I was laughing at the overall tone of your post, especially the last line, because it's funny. I've already said I don't necessarily agree that a DV conviction (or an incident like this that clearly should have led to one) should generally get you barred from future employment opportunities. Given the very public nature of the NFL, things are different in this case because you have teams/the league with legitimate PR concerns. It's comparable to some random mid-level manager getting charged for animal abuse versus a CEO; the CEO is the public face of the company and draws a lot of negative attention when he does that, whereas some random employee no one ever hears about and is never connected to his employer doesn't. The NFL and the Ravens "investigated" when it happened, and tried to quickly sweep it under the rug with a short suspension. They were pretty widely criticized for that at the time. When the video leaked, lots of people were shocked by just how violent and brutal the assault actually was. The NFL and the Ravens then flailed some more and jumped to cutting him and an indefinite ban. They look pretty bad in this situation, and I somewhat agree with jenks that the NFL issuing a weak suspension, then announcing a new policy in response to the backlash over the weak suspension, then going above and beyond their new policy when a video that they're probably already seen becomes public is kinda bulls*** on their part. I don't see where Rice's rights are being violated, though. I don't like it, but almost all of us work at-will. Rice was cut from a contract, which the Ravens have every right to do at any time for almost any reason. He doesn't have a right to play in the NFL. As far as due process goes, I don't see how anything could ever legitimize what's so clear in that video, so there's not much there.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:22 PM) My sister is an adult. She gets a say in her life. If its just a "terrible mistake" Id get over it, if it was a "pattern of abuse" then no. Its naive to ignore the fact that when there is long term abuse (Rice has been with her since HS) that there are generally a lot of signs/indication. So you would think that if hes been abusing her for almost 10 years, there would be more stories/whispers. But if it fits your narrative, it must be fact. I clearly have stated I have no idea what has gone on, and that I think we should INVESTIGATE, before we jump to a conclusion either way. Sorry I guess thats the American in me. lol

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:15 PM) You have no evidence of what happened or why she said that. The definition of abuser doesnt matter, what matters is the fact that people seem to always believe that they know best for everyone else. Last I checked Rice and Turner were adults. At this point Rice does not seem to be a current threat to her life. If she wants to forgive him for what he did, thats her choice. Just like if someone forgives a spouse for cheating, etc. Their life, not mine. (edit) Does anyone have a shred of evidence of prior abuse by Rice? Cause in my experience usually there are more signs than just 1 sudden outburst in public. It is her choice, but it seems intentionally naive to ignore how DV frequently works to make the victim blame themselves and rationalize their abuser's behavior.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) Yeah, it's like this with everything these days...you should see the golf industry....companies release a new driver every 3 months. It is absolutely ridiculous. My grandpa's clubs from the 70's (?) are just fine for my once-every-three-years game of golf.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:04 PM) I do. I've long been kind of anti super huge phone, for the same reasons you stated, but as of now you can either go somewhat big, or phablet big, otherwise you'll end up with older hardware like the iPhone 5s, or an older Samsung or HTC...it would appear now you're choice is between big and very big... If you go very big, I guess the advantage is you now don't need a tablet, and if you go big, you'll save some space... I'm kind of in the same boat as you on this... :/ I'm not a big person, so these big phones are kind of a lot for me. The never-ending waves of new phones kill me. The 5s isn't even a year old yet.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 01:55 PM) Just wait... I dunno, he''ll be getting pretty old for a RB by the time he's allowed back in the league, even if it's next year. RB's are replaceable commodities these days.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:42 PM) Well that's why I was pointing out the marriage...one would think she wouldn't marry him if she was still traumatized...but I honestly have learned to not try and understand everyone...it's beyond comprehension in many instances. "s/he'll change" "s/he still loves me" "s/he didn't really mean it, s/he just lost their temper" "I know I'm not perfect, I provoked him/her" We don't even have to guess at the potential rationalizations in this case. We have that tweet via the Ravens about Janay apologizing for "the role that she played."

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:38 PM) Sure - the question isn't whether she has or ever will so much as whether his presence and/or the memory of the incident continued to traumatize her something like living with your own PTSD trigger?

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:30 PM) Well, the players' union could stop them from doing this, but they apparently aren't willing to risk the PR damage it would do. I thought "personal conduct" stuff was entirely at the league's discretion?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:30 PM) Why? Victims of abuse move past it somehow all the time... A lot of times they will internalize it and blame themselves for the abuse, at least partially if not fully. e.g. #WhyIStayed: She saw herself in Ray Rice’s wife, Janay, and tweeted about it. So did thousands of others.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:14 PM) 6) A key one - don't buy a lot of unnecessary s***, and tell your family/friends not to get you unnecessary s***. Toys specifically. At each stage there is a max amount of toys that each kid will ever use or play with. Like 2 is probably the number. Maybe 3. Use rotations. Let the kid play with 1-2 things for a week or two, and when it gets old put them away and get another 1-2 toys. When that gets old, bring back the original ones. Rinse and repeat. They won't know the difference for a while (years). And you'll save yourself the headache of dealing with multiple loud, flashing toys at one time. That and they take up a lot of space, even in a home. This was the biggest regret I think I've had so far as a parent. We should have requested money instead of gifts. Except books. Again, you can never have enough books. This applies to clothes, too.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:16 PM) I just wonder if there is any kind of "statute of limitations" for new video evidence. Suppose that tomorrow somebody discovers a video from 2007 of Michael Vick killing dogs. Does he now get a new punishment because of public outrage? Goodell handing out completely arbitrary decisions has been a criticism leveled at him for a while. I don't think anyone is saying that the NFL looks good in all of this.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:09 PM) EA Sports going to remove him from their games. I think the way everyone is stumbling over each other to point their finger is as pathetic as the initial 2 game suspension that was "adequate" until some visuals were added into the mix. Don't they do regular roster updates? If so it makes sense that they'd remove someone who is no longer in the NFL as part of their regular updates, along with any other cuts etc.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:06 PM) Really? The definition of the word abuser is key to this argument? Come on. (waiting for the next /shrugs) I'm pretty sure there's something like a Godwin's law for argument via dictionary definition

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 11:38 AM) Based on? Based on him knocking her out. That reaction doesn't come from nowhere. I've been with my wife for over 10 years now, and I've never once laid my hand on her or even had the slightest urge to do so. edit: this is of course pure speculation!

I have a hard time believing that this is the only time he's ever abused her, either emotionally or physically, though.

I'm not really a reality show guy, but I caught the first ten minutes or so of Utopia when it came on after the game. I don't know what anyone sees in that show. It's just a big group of idiots yelling at each other, and there's not even some ultimate goal or story driving everything like there are on other shows (e.g. voting people out).

QUOTE (TRU @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 10:42 AM) Yes, KC has a brutal schedule and lost two good defenders for the season on Sunday. Didn't know that, that makes the decision even easier.

Do I dump the KC defense this week (up against Denver) to try to find a better match up?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 10:01 AM) It's all processed similarly. In the end, the bank loses. For the bank, sure, but fighting with Chase over a $2000 charge I don't want to pay is different than fighting with Chase over $2000 that are already withdrawn from my account via debit card.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 09:59 AM) Honestly, I am more surprised the NFL didn't buy up every copy of the film and destroy it...or maybe they thought they had... I don't think the NFL wants to get into obstruction of justice legal problems.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 09:47 AM) You mean any sort of plastic. Because none of it is safe until we go to chip and pin universally. And when that happens, they will figure out how to get around that too I thought CC charges are easier to dispute and reverse than debit charges because debits hit your bank account immediately.

0-2, off to another stellar start!

Another big data breach, this time Home Depot. Sigh. Probably means I'm going to get yet another CC number, meaning I'll have to change all of my autobill stuff again.