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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 09:07 AM) She had them talk more about Afghanistan's economy than our own. I get that she's a foreign policy expert, so that's going to be the majority of her base of questions, but that was such a secondary topic. Other than that I thought she did a pretty good job with the specific questions. She did seem to follow up with Ryan a little more, pressing him for more concrete answers, while Biden was allowed to get away with some just 100% false statements, especially regarding the embassy attack and the administration never knowing that he was requesting more security. That's something she knows and she should called him on it. But whatever, she was fine. CNN's coverage btw was fairly pro-Ryan. Most of their panel save the one black democrat (who proudly pronounced his affiliation.....nice neutral political pundit on a roundtable) argued that on points it was probably a draw or a slight edge to Biden, but everyone agreed Biden came off like a jerk with the smiling and interrupting. But as I said last night, I think both sides got what they wanted - Biden calmed his base down, Ryan held his own and looked very competent. Win/Win. the media narrative on an aggressive democrat is going to be that he's a bully or a jerk, whereas an aggressive republican is bold and assertive.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 09:08 AM) the polls coming out show a Ryan with a close win in the debate. CNN put a little pro-Democrat spin on the numbers, but that can be expected. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/...an-48-biden-44/ Among supposedly 'undecideds' biden crushed it:

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 09:02 AM) he's a valued entertainer, media personality, and has a successful political commentary show. his formula is very simple, like much of FOX news; allinsist always and strongly, for decades, that your competitors are pro-Democrat, you are pro-Republican. No real competition for your viewers.

In response to Biden criticizing Romney's "Let Detriot Go Bankrupt" article, Ryan responded: RYAN: Mitt Romney’s a car guy. They keep misquoting him, but let me tell you about the Mitt Romney I know. This is a guy who I was talking to a family in Northborough, Massachusetts the other day, Sheryl and Mark Nixon. Their kids were hit in a car crash, four of them. Two of them, Rob and Reed, were paralyzed. [anecdote about noblesse oblige and paying for their college education] That's a pretty incredible non-sequitor.

Greg Sargent's take: @conncarroll @matthewjdowd CNN found virtual tie among all voters. CBS found sizable Biden win among undecideds: cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-5… 12 Oct 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite Greg Sargent@ThePlumLineGS Difference between lefty response to 1st debate and righty response to last night is remarkable and instructive #HackGap 12 Oct 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite Greg Sargent@ThePlumLineGS RT @matthewjdowd Republicans hated Biden. Democrats loved him. Undecided voters sided with Biden by large margin. Good night for Obama.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 08:39 AM) Why does anyone care what Hannity says? this is a mystery for the ages, yet he gets paid millions of dollars to say things

the debate in 100 seconds:

Lehrer gets a do-over!

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 08:29 AM) Biden came off as rude and rage prone. Most people do not respect those qualities in a leader. Romney was assertive. No yelling, no red faced rants, no banging his fist on the table. Big difference. The news media - FOX, was desperately trying to give Biden a win in the debate narrative. The second-best part was the sweet, sweet tears of sadness from the Fox commentators afterwards. Hannity still couldn't let it go that Obama attended the moderator's wedding 21 years ago.

The best part was, by far, the moderator. Aside from two very weak questions to end it and questionable framing on another two, she asked good, specific questions of both of them and actually had control of the topics. Really highlights how terrible Lehrer was last week.

Biden had the better of it and called Ryan on his "malarky" and "stuff" the whole night, though he wasn't perfect by any means. Even the moderator pressed Ryan for refusing to give any specifics whatsoever on their tax plan, like Chris Wallace did a week or so ago. Andrew Sullivan usually does good reaction summaries for stuff like this: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/20...-blog-reax.html

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 06:44 AM) Yes, because being against killing innocent human beings is purely a religious thing. Atheists and agnostics are all about killing any random people they want. question-begging

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 06:40 AM) Isn't that true about pretty much every debate? Probably, they're mostly dumb superficial shows.

I couldn't believe that they decided to go with a "help a family that had a tragic car accident" story in a debate with Joe Biden

The real-time fact checking of Ryan's bulls*** was entertaining. The media narrative will be a draw because only republicans are bold and assertive, democrats are rude and mean.

Romney’s Debate Win Was about Personality More than Policy

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) Arkansas Legislative Republican candidate says in his book parents should be able to kill their rebellious children...you can't make this s*** up. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/c..._n_1948490.html Again, today's Republican party FTW this one is better: http://wonkette.com/486378/gentleman-in-vi...-out-their-kids

some more commentary on that IMF report: http://notthetreasuryview.blogspot.co.uk/2...-in-uk-imf.html

no war but class war, comrade

"some girls rape easy"

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) Thanks for the suggestion. Also, I like routers that you can 192.168.1.1 into and do a remote reset. The last router i had wouldnt let me do that and i would have to get off of my beanbag chair and unplug the router and plug it back in to reset, it was quite annoying and calorie burning. I *think* you can do that. You do log onto the router through 192.168.1.1 for setup. The options are somewhat limited since it's meant to be a plug-and-play router. Honestly, I haven't messed with it since initially setting it up. I just use the WPS to add new devices.

I've liked my Cisco Valet Plus. I bought it a little over a year ago after lightning fried my dlink gamefuel router.

Something else on employer political coercion up at Volokh today: Suspending Employee for Signing a Referendum Petition