StrangeSox

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) "At a 14 billion+ loss to the American people and a boon to my reelection chances because I pandered to the auto unions." The collapse of the us auto industry would have done far more damage than 14b.

You know what would be great for students? A completey disgruntled workforce and Rahm with no checks.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) or if you lose your house because you can't afford the massive tax increase on it to pay some teacher 100K a year to work half the year. That is your fault you lazy, irresponsible moocher!

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 04:42 PM) People shouldn't be rewarded for being stupid. The banks shouldn't have been bailed out, and these idiots should have lost their homes. We're not talking about people 2 years away from owning their home outright. We're talking about idiots that took on a 30 ARM with a balloon payment a few years down the line that was way more than they could afford. They don't deserve to keep their home. Your desire to see bad people punished, to make the economy a morality play hurts everyone.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 04:35 PM) Who's going to determine that? And how many people would use the "oh the predatory lending got me! I was dooped! I knew I only made 1500 a month but that 3200 mortgage payment seemed totally doable in 5 years into the future!" Who cares if it gets the economy functional again and gets people working?

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) Well, you are obviously a dumbass since you didn't read my part about having a program for people just like you mentioned. edit: if you are asking me personally I can go about 2 years, maybe a little more. I planned ahead. In fact, I was out of work for almost 18 months and never missed a payment, because I planned ahead. Why am I forced to subsidize YOUR mortgage with tax credits? Why won't that lazy 47% ever learn to take responsibility and start being makers, not takers!

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) Well, you are obviously a dumbass since you didn't read my part about having a program for people just like you mentioned. You're right, I focused on your deflection that allows you to dismiss the entire idea as helping "dumbasses" (unlike the banks?!).

It accomplishes what all trolling accomplishes, which is making asses out of the targets.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 03:00 PM) I have zero desire for my tax dollars to be used to help some dumbass that bought 4x the house they could afford just because times were 'good'. And simply being underwater doesn't mean you need any 'adjustments'. If you can still make the payments, then just too damn bad that your house isn't worth what it was. If you lost your job and need help, sure, come up with a program for that. Otherwise I don't want to pay YOUR mortgage, just like I don't want to pay your student loans either. How long could you afford your reasonably priced house if you lost your job for 2-4 years starting today? Would you just be another "dumbass?" Should we keep subsidizing your mortgage with the tax credit? I don't want my tax dollars to pay for YOUR mortgage!

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 02:29 PM) Too bad that money goes to the banks, not the citizens. Exactly. Instead of giving the banks more money by buying mortgage-backed securities, just go out and cover some damn mortgages directly.

Rahm Emmanuel with unchecked power, regardless of the situation (not specifically talking schools here), is a disaster waiting to happen.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 03:01 PM) Agreed, so instead of throwing money at the status quo, why not throw the money at creating more opportunities. Ditto with the schools. Instead of throwing money at the schools, throw it into the communities. Shoot, at this point i'm almost ready to pay those kids to show up and get decent grades. You graduate you get a free ride to a community college. Something along those lines. Hopefully a good percentage of those students would take that deal and at least for some generations there'd be some movement up in society. I'm all for ending QE3 and sending checks directly from the Fed to citizens.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 12:42 PM) Anyone else think that given the 1 billion dollar deficit in the CPS budget that Rahm would just close the entire system and start up charter schools instead? Rehire the same teachers sans union, and then have complete control over everything. Probably would be best long term for the City. Semi-privatized authoritarian regime headed by Rahm Emmanuel would be the worst for everyone regardless of location or circumstance.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) I don't agree with what he said about the teachers not caring about the kids learning at all...but I also believe that if they had gotten raises, they never would have went on strike for the other things, because they weren't the important factors of the strike...they were simply used as additional bargaining chips. the evaluation standards were a lot more important than the raises, imo. It's still a teacher-focused issue, though.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 12:13 PM) Yes but not Jews. According to the Old Testament they are the chosen people so I dont want to f*** with that! this post also literally made me lol

Real wages have been stagnant for decades. The middle class is shrinking and the wealth and income gaps are exploding, especially since the start of this recession. The problem isn't a "moocher" class of lazy poors. The opportunities to pull yourself out of poverty have been disappearing.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 12:26 PM) I think Romney scares anyone that isn't a complete GOP kool aid drinking nutbar. But it doesn't make me like Obama any more. this post made me literally lol

I guess you're right, funding for the CPS is completely static. My mistake.

No no no, his father was a hard-working man just struggling to get by and down on his luck. People like him deserve a helping hand in hard times, it's those other people, those welfare queens that are stealing our hard-earned money.

Money sitting in offshore Cayman Island and Swiss bank accounts could help solve a lot of funding issues.

In the United States of America, it is not a horrible argument.

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I don't understand your "shut up" idea here. I don't think working under the previous contract for the rest of the year was a realistic option (I may be wrong on that one) and the CPS proposal was 4 years. That's four years under a contract 90% of your membership doesn't want and it puts you right back into Presidential Election Season.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 18, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) But its easy to gloss over those and blame the teachers instead. To be fair, I've glossed over that as well because it's such a huge issue and "CPS funding" is only a very, very narrow subset of the problem.