StrangeSox

Sweet a column from Krauthammer. edit: he can "survive" what he told small businesses because he didn't tell small businesses what Charles Krauthammer and the Romney campaign are telling you he told small businesses.

Picking the guy who wants to end Medicare as his VP kinda makes that easy.

Has NPR's Adam Davidson Betrayed His Listeners? Serious Conflict of Interest Issues Exposed Turns out a business journalist is a shill for big business. Shocking!

QUOTE (farmteam @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 02:04 PM) Just from what I've seen in general of flagship state schools, Illinois has absurdly high in-state tuition. My (relatively small) scholarship at Indiana made it the same price UIUC would have been. Quickly looking at Mich, MSU and Wisconsin, it's $1-2k more per academic year for undergrad tuition.

Tuition rates have been climbing exponentially over the last 10+ years. UIUC is up 50% from when I left there in 2007.

Teens cited for chalk-doodle in parking lot Nothing political but didn't know where else to toss this

Oh I misread that part, yeah that's pretty dumb.

Outrage that nobody cared or heard about or maybe even expressed as actual "outrage" until six months later?

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:11 PM) One thing I want to know, however, is is the funding actually dropping, or is tuition just rising so much that more and more needs to come out of pocket. Yes.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 12:32 PM) Yeah, still not impressed. Their earnings will be over 38k for the majority of their lifetime. I'm not arguing for law school, not doing law school was the only good school decision i've made. But, in the grand scheme of things these people will be better off than someone who didn't go to college. Again, I doubt the amount of legal jobs has gone down, there are just a lot more lawyers so they can't demand the salary they used to. Better than someone who went to no college, probably. Better than someone who stuck with their BA/BS or mastered in something else? Maybe not, not with their massive debt loads.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 11:54 AM) and yet I'd bet a large amount of them are making more than the 38k median wage. Maybe. http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2012/0...real-legal-jobs

There is a glut of lawyers, though.

lol'd

What constitutes a "useful" degree is fluid. A nuclear engineering degree in Germany sounded great 4 years ago when they promised to keep their plants running for 20 years. Now it'd be kinda worthless.

Good thing it's non-dischargeable in bankruptcy, too! for-profit colleges account for something like 20% of (federally-guaranteed) student loans but 80% of the default rates. There's on-going controversy over law schools and them being dishonest about debt loads and employment rates, too.

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It's kinda odd that it seems like the refs have more bargaining power than the players did.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Aug 9, 2012 -> 09:36 PM) I think Cutter saying she knew nothing of the woman's illness was laughable, after it was revealed she was on a conference call with the husband. Between her and Romney's spokeswoman, I don't know who is the bigger boob. That their defense against the ad was to support obamneycare is pretty hilarious.

Palin's death panels were more factually-based than Romney's welfare ad.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 9, 2012 -> 04:57 PM) The message was not that the guy lost his health insurance, but that his wife died because of what Romney did. That's a straight up lie. She didn't even know she had cancer until 2 days before she died. AND, she had her own health insurance from her own job. The guy losing his job and his health insurance had NOTHING to do with her death. Nothing. If you don't think that's a lie, I don't think we agree on the definition of the word. I'll agree to call that a lie if you can agree that completely fabricating your opponent's position is a bigger step than that misleading ad. edit: the P-USA ad may be comparable to something like the Willy Horton ad in terms of honest portrayal of the truth. The Romney ad is in its own category.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 9, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) They said Mitt Romney got a guy fired which caused him to lose health insurance which resulted in the death of his cancer-stricken wife because she couldnt' get medical treatment. So they didn't LITERALLY claim that Romney gave her cancer. I don't know why you said that. So there's distortion or misstatements or obfuscation, I'll grant that for the sake of argument. But the core message, that this man lost his job and his health insurance because of Bain, is arguably true. It may not be a completely honest portrayal, but the message is built around some factual claim. No, this is different. There is literally nothing to back up Romney's claim that Obama is gutting welfare rules. It is the exact opposite of reality. edit: I'm not defending the P-USA ad. It's not accurate and they should have (and likely easily could have) found someone with a better story that they didn't have to twist for this sort of commercial. The Obama campaign looks silly with their flailing away from it as well. But it's still not comparable to LITERALLY pulling something out of their ass and calling it Obama's position. It would be no more justified for Obama's campaign (remember, that terrible welfare ad is directly from the Romney campaign) to come out and claim that Romney wants to gut child labor laws and it'd have exactly the same factual basis.

No, not like that, because they did not LITERALLY claim that Romney gave someone cancer. I don't know why you said that. They may have exaggerated or distorted (don't know), but that's typical for campaign commercials. The man says that he lost his insurance thanks to Romney, and shortly after that his wife contracted cancer and then eventually died without adequate care. That's different from just completely making something up like with this welfare rule thing. Romney's campaign is flat-out lying over and over again. Not exaggerations, not s***ty reasoning, not misrepresentations, but things that they've completely made up.

We are in the post-truth campaign era:

They hold them off, US Gold.