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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) The sheriff mentioned a "third video" that would play a role in the investigation, the reports indicate it's not clear exactly what he's talking about, the the sheriff has since fired the deputy over this incident. Why are you assuming that the teen probably did something worthy of provoking Officer Slam's rage? Is there anything in the videos available (and there have been three released already) that would even make a plausible that a punch was thrown before the first video was recorded? It shows her already sitting down calmly and the officer walking up to her. I'm not assuming anything. I'm reading that a third video exists that may or may not show her punching the guy. Doesn't make much since for the sheriff to claim there's another video out there that is important to the investigation if it doesn't show anything new/different. I'm saying, as always, let's get all the info before we start accusing "Officer Slam" of being a racist white office that picks on poor little black kids (an obvious angle considering the media is clinging to accusations made in a civil complaint, which are just that, accusations). The guy clearly went to far and deserved to be fired. He can't work at that school again after this. I have no problem with that. I have a problem with the "white cop/black victim" angle, as if that plays a part here. He's an asshole cop. Can't we leave it at that?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 10:25 AM) I thought one of the most important aspects of the 2nd amendment was to protect us from a violent, oppressive state? Yes this comment is half-snark but why wouldn't self-defense or defense of another being attacked be justified here? I don't think a "reasonable person" would believe that a cop trying to effectuate an arrest is putting a person in danger of imminent death or great bodily injury. If that's the standard you want to go with, we'd have a lot of dead cops on our hands.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 10:19 AM) Did you watch the video in your own NBC link? At the start of the video, she's sitting at her desk as he's walking up to her. Unless she swung at him, walked back to her seat, calmly sat down and then officer friendly approached slowly, then the alleged punches came in self defense as she was being assaulted by a violent thug. There's no good reason to assume that she just must have done something to provoke his violent action. edit: go to about 55 seconds in this video clip, and you see where she swings somewhat blindly at her assailant as he begins throwing her to the ground. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sherif...officer-n452481 The report makes it sound like there's a third video that hasn't been released yet. I don't really see any punches in the two videos on that page. It looks more like she was trying to grab his hands.

Sure, and that's why he was fired, because he didn't do those things. I was referring more to the comment about the teacher shooting him for committing an assault. I mean he's legally authorized to commit an assault if necessary. Just not to the degree this guy did.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 10:08 AM) Yeah, she swung at the guy who was throwing her to the ground for no reason. Sounds like self defense to me. Too bad the teacher wasn't armed so she could have stopped this assault before it went any further. So take out the throwing her to the ground part, you think he was wrong to put his hands on her to begin with? I'm pretty sure that's his job - if someone is being unruly (arguable, but that's what he's going on) and she's not leaving per his orders, he has to get physical at some point. So if he's doing that and she starts wailing on him (we don't know) then yeah, he still went overboard and became way too physical by throwing her around, but at the same time she also asked for a physical response from him. I'm assuming the punch/punches came before he became physical, otherwise why are the news reports referring to a third video that shows something that is not in the first two? Maybe i'm missing something.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 10:00 AM) I thought the issue was that she was f***ing around on her phone, refused to hand it over to the teacher and then refused to leave the classroom when asked. They also arrested the student who recorded the incident. eta: even if she had hit the teacher, it's still pretty much "white cop beats black teen for no reason!" eta2: and he was fired for it http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sherif...officer-n452481 It was a cop I guess, not a teacher. edit: and yeah, he should be fired. I'm not arguing that.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 08:44 AM) Police have been present in schools for decades—particularly in low-income communities of color—but some experts also tie their increased presence to the rise in school shootings. After Columbine, the Department of Justice invested $876 million to fund the presence of nearly 7,000 school resource officers like Fields (S. Carolina officer accused of brutality and racism in dealing with black female student in classroom). During the 2013–2014 school year, there were more than 82,000 officers working in public schools. yahoo.com I think that guy went a little overboard, but I read somewhere that there's a video showing that same student punching the teacher, which was why the cop was called in the first place. At some point, if she's already committed battery AND is resisting arrest, the officer is going to have to be physical. Again, looks like he went above and beyond what was necessary, but this is another example of the media spreading a "white cop beats saintly black person for no reason!" narrative.

f*** yeah good game.

Jimmy just about knocked his teeth out on the rim there.

God dammit, I have seen this game approx. 35 times the last 5 years.

I have seen this game approx 35 times the last 5 years.

Bulls cannot close a team out.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 08:37 PM) E'Twain instead of Kirk. :wub: Already a Thibs mistake fixed. Took one game. I was screaming for this all of last season.

Both teams have missed a lot of bunnies/short jump shots. Snell had two 3s that rimmed out too. Decent first half.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 07:44 PM) Rotations seem much better. No Hinrich for an entire quarter! I saw a pig fly today...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 07:39 PM) So I see Rose lasted 15 minutes of game time before getting hurt. This is an improvement compared to the preseason. No I'm not joking. Rolled an ankle it looked like. In other news, I'm liking this competent looking professional offense.

The defense last year sucked. I think 19th overall. They were slipping even with Thibs. That's partly do to Gasol being awful and having a broken Noah, so they should be a little better this year. This team is going to be in 115-105 games more than 85-80. Thank. Freaking. God.

On 247 they were: 2010 - 11th 2011 - 17th 2012 - no commits 2013 - 21st 2014- 47th (losing Snyder on signing day was tough) 2015- 17th edit: bah!!! waste of 5 minutes edit 2: Given the state of the program, I think Groce has done a decent job. It would be great if he could land an actual blue chipper to push them over the top and get back into contention. This .500, bubble s*** is getting old. I think he's now safe this season if they miss the NCAAs given the injuries. I would still can him if I were in charge. Let someone else take over while there's still some talent on the roster (and senior talent too with Nunn/Hill). Don't let it become a full on rebuild like Weber to Groce.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 01:18 PM) Wouldn't another option be to buy some new trim and paint that (while pulling off the old trim)? Depending on how old it is, could make sense and presume it wouldn't be super costly. That was my thought originally, but you're talking every baseboard, the trim around each window (and would that look funky with dark stained wood windows with white interior trim?) door trim/jams, walkthrough areas, etc. Cost is less of a factor than the pain-in-the-ass factor.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 01:09 PM) Cost would be minimal really. Gallon or two of white trim paint from Ace (by far the best trim paint imo) plus maybe a couple hundred dollars in trim. Little bit of a pain in the ass to paint everything but it really wasn't too bad. I think the guy put polyurethane or something on all the trim. It's glossy. When I painted some trim in our office in the basement it took like 4 coats of paint to cover. So I either sand the entire house or I spend just an ungodly amount of time painting. That's why I thought about just replacing it all. Either way, i'm perfectly ok with not having white trim everywhere. I'm sure that's a fad that will last another 10 years and then everyone will want dark trim again.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 12:45 PM) Since we had to put all new hardi board siding on our addition, we figured it made sense to spend the money and replace all the siding on the old house as well and change the color to one we like. Of course, once they removed the old siding, they discovered a whole other layer of wood siding that needed to be replaced as well. The fun never ends, good thing the bank required a contingency fund, it's already almost used up as it is. How did you go about your addition? Did you talk to an architect first, get some plans, and then go to the bank to see what you could afford? What's that process like? I literally have no idea how to start.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 12:44 PM) Some issues, some looks and our house is roughly the same size. Kitchen went pretty much right away as the original kitchen was literally falling apart. We replaced every door in the house. We rebuilt the landing/staircase that was falling down in the back. We tore down the dilapidated old shed and built a new one. Re-landscaped everything. Gutted the main bathroom upstairs down to the studs (we were redoing pretty much everything else and the drywall looked horrible so why not?). New tile, vanity and paint in the downstairs bathroom. New pergo-type floors, paint in the basement. New trim throughout the house. Refinished the main stairs and re-tiled the entryway landing. Everything except the kitchen we did ourselves. Partially it's value added to the house, partially it's just what we like doing. Of course now that we've essentially done the entire house, we're getting ready to list it and do it all over again, this time in a bigger house. re: bolded ugh no that'd be gone immediately. I think we got lucky. We bought the place from the family that built it and they did a good job maintaining everything. One thing my wife wants us to do is replace all the trim in the house. It's got the dark oak or whatever. She wants all white. She has no idea (1) what that would cost, (2) what a huge project/pain in the ass that would be. Did you guys find a place first? Or are you going to list, see what you get and then find a place soon after you sell it? We're debating whether to add a second story and an addition or just go buy a bigger house. We love our lot/neighborhood and we're so close to the train and interstate to commute to work. Anything bigger in our area we can't afford and if we move further west we're just adding onto our commutes.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 12:28 PM) We've remodeled pretty much every room in our 1960's house. Because of issues or looks? We have a smallish house, a 1,500 sq ft one story ranch, so it's not like there's a lot of house to fix up, but other than painting just about every room, we haven't done anything to the bedrooms or bathrooms. The kitchen is super outdated (original oven/cook-top, but still functional), and we probably should have tackled that first before finishing the basement, but those are the two big projects thus far. I repainted our big deck last summer. Other than landscaping, that's about all we've done in ~5 years. Now, my wife will tell you that there's a million more things we should be doing (replacing some doors, modernizing at least one of the bathrooms, etc), but a lot of that seems like wasted money to me. It's functional and not too ugly (i.e. a salmon or baby blue tub/toilet/sink set). I'd rather throw that money into the investment account and be happier about the gains 30 years from now. So far i've been winning those arguments for the most part.

I'm so glad I bought a home built in the 1960's that so far has required zero dollars in work, only what we wanted to update (finished basement and an ongoing kitchen facelift). Reading your guys' story and listening to a couple of friends who bought older homes...sounds terrible.

I'm irrationally excited about tonight/this NBA season. I fully expect the Bulls to disappoint and get steamrolled by Lebron & Co. again. Yet i'm still excited & hopeful. I felt the same 2 years ago with the Bears and that didn't turn out very well. Here's to a much better result!