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What the hell does disciplining his son with a switch mean?

I have to think jumping and falling to your death (and hopefully passing out before doing so) is better than burning alive. But what a terrible choice to make.

Jesus. Do they allow tackling anymore? One, if not two, awful personal foul calls on the Steelers there.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 11:20 AM) This is really cool. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/09/11...d-its-stunning/ Amazing how much mis-information there was. Understandable given the chaotic nature of it all, but still.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 11:27 AM) "Blameless Jay" http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/...ever-just-right

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 10:51 AM) Flavor of the month...yet you agree a commissioner should lose his job, which is kind of a big deal. That's not flavor of the month material. Furthermore, it's not about what I do about domestic violence, it's about what the NFL does (or in this case, didn't do). That's why this started. I guess we'll agree to disagree if you think this is a 3 out of a 10. Now that they hired the guy to run the investigation, any question from here on out will be answered the same ("I can't comment and won't until the conclusion of the investigation"), football continues, 6 months from now we'll all be over it and the investigation will find some communication lapses in the NFL offices such that persons A, B and C were found to have not acted properly. The NFL already has a new DV policy in place, so, the end. Onto the next crusade. Or can we go back to Redskins now?

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 10:32 AM) Without better evidence (read a videotape), I don't have a problem with letting the appeal run its course re: Greg Hardy. BUT in light of pretty heinous allegations against him, I hope he gets treated similarly to Rice if the conviction is upheld. Ultimately, I think these guys deserve a certain level of due process. Rice's case is unique because the videotape is there for the whole world to see - there is no denying that Rice knocked his significant other out. Let McDonald and Hardy have their day (plural in Hardy's case) in court and then, with a conviction, bring down the hammer. Note that I would also be ok with the league suspending DV offenders with pay while the charges are pending and then dropping the hammer (suspension w/out pay) once (if) there's a conviction. That would truly send a message that the NFL wants to eradicate DV from the league. I think if you've been convicted that's enough to warrant the suspension or whatever punishment that the NFL is going to lay down. I could understand waiting a little more if it's just accusations as in the San Fran case. Although Goodell had no problem suspending Roethlisberger without any proof and just accusations.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 09:50 AM) Greg Hardy? Sounds right.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 09:39 AM) Absolutely not. They covered it up, lied about it, didn't take it seriously enough, etc. This is a HUGE deal. Piling on? The commissioner might lose his job. I think you're severely underestimating the scope of this. I don't really care if it was the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS etc. My reaction would be the same. To chalk it up to some sort of jealousy? What? They've completely mishandled this thing from the beginning and deserve everything coming to them. IMO this is mostly nonsense. This isn't the first time a professional league has tried to cover up something damaging. Perhaps the dumbest example, but not the first. And this isn't the first case of some deplorable act by a major professional sports figure that we've been upset about, but ultimately forgiven. Someone else brought up the example of Hope Solo. How about Floyd Mayweather? Mike Tyson? Countless others. Where was national outrage then? Tyson is still seen as a lovable dumbass despite being a pretty reprehensible person. Taking such strong, unreasonable stands - like Rice or anyone else involved in domestic violence should never be employable again - just seems over the top to me. I'm not justifying Rice, I'm not justifying the stupidity of the NFL. They do deserve what they're getting, and Goodell should resign or be fired. But I can't help feel like there's lynch mob taking over just to pile on and be upset about it. It's just the flavor of the month. It reminds me a lot of the people who were totally fine saying Redskins 6 months ago, but once it became a story they decided how deplorable it was and chastised anyone else who didn't agree with them. I dunno, to me, this has the importance of like a 3 or 4 on a 10 scale. A company trying to cover up it's embarrassing mistakes? Shocking! Not really, no. And it's the NFL, not a school district or a church or some other institution that holds itself to a much higher standard. They (and other professional leagues) have stood by murderers, adulterers, cheaters, gang bangers, etc. This is a league that's all about money and always has been. Why are we shocked when they act in their best monetary interest? And finally, on top of all of this, who among you is going to do anything about it other than be upset on the internet? Who's going to stop watching the product? Great, you've demanded Goodell gets fired. What does that achieve? Like he won't be replaced by someone who will act in a way that protects the NFL and it's money interests?

There's another guy in the NFL Mike & Mike were talking about this morning who was found guilty of assault in a domestic abuse case, he's appealing it, but there was an adjudication of the charge. And he's still playing.

Can we just admit that at some point this is all just piling on? That everyone has this, jealousy for lack of a better word of the NFL, so now's a good time to go after them? I mean, it's pretty sad that the focus of the outrage has shifted from Rice and domestic violence issues in sports to the NFL and how it handled this. Over a video that, again, didn't need to be seen to understand what happened.

Well that's good news. I still don't see how we get Bragg with Kentucky, Kansas, etc. calling. Thus far, "relationship with Groce and the coaching staff" has not paid off with these top guys. Ultimately that means dick when you're choosing between 2-3 schools. They all have good relationships.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 04:57 PM) Considering the way the vast majority of people use smartphones, that's exactly what a smartphone is. The VAST majority of people tend to text, read a few emails, make a call or two, and browse the web a bit on their smartphones. That's it. They use a total of 4 apps. Don't get me wrong, as a tech person myself, I agree with you. These are things people SHOULD know how to do, and these are things people SHOULD do considering the power of these devices they're holding in their hands...the issue is the vast majority of them just don't care. Given the prevalence of apps and games on mobile devices, I call BS on this. I use about 20 regularly. Everything from emails, finance apps, games, social media, etc. I'm pretty sure my mobile usage is very normal.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 04:56 PM) Well first of all, it depends on your definition of elite, but I guess you are talking top 10/15 guys. Outside of that, he's landed good recruits, especially given where the program was at. Anyway, you're dead wrong on not playing from behind. Did you miss everything coming out of the Brunson's camp after the Snider fiasco? From all indications, Illinois was completely out of the running, and Groce worked his ass off to get back into it and even be considered, let alone top 2. Kruger and Self both got McD AA's in their third class. It's not over yet, but I guess it has been done before. But I do think the program was in worse shape when Groce took over than when Kruger took over.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 04:51 PM) If you can't land a single elite recruit in 3 years I don't have faith that you are suddenly going to after that and he isn't playing from behind on any of the recruits in this years class. He had 1. Lost him to a dream school at the last second.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 04:40 PM) They will be ok. The problem is that it will be becoming pretty clear that Groce isn't capable of landing the cream of the crop. Come on. Given the state of the program, are you really surprised?

Well, he better hope that Evans picks Illinois or it's going to be a rough couple of seasons. What's he like 1 for 3 now on 5 star guys, and the 1 became a zero on signing day?

I literally can't believe it. It is unfathomably stupid for a guy as smart as Goodell and for the smart people in the league. You can't lie about these things and not get caught. No chance. Goodell must not have known an executive received it. That's the only logical explanation. If it's an attempt to cover up, just wow. Unbelievably stupid. Historically stupid.

Four-star PF Esa Ahmad chooses West Virginia over Ohio State, Maryland & others. OSU out for Bragg too - #Buckeyes missing on top 2 in OH. Fire that coach!

Looks like Groce lined up another visit to Texas to see Evans. Probably tells you something about today's announcement.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 01:36 PM) I agree. People are giving it to Conte and I sure he's a bit embarrassed about that last play, but when he started getting pushed around, Jackson was already in chip shot FG range. Yeah, his response was logical - if I tackle him they win anyway, so I went for the ball. It's hilarious to me that people can ignore how awful guys like Tillman played but place the blame on Conte.

I find it hard to believe that he told friends or teachers before making the decision and that they would leak it beforehand. If that's the case, why hold the press conference? Just commit to Nova while your're there.

And to be clear, i'm not saying the Bears should have kept McCown in favor of not re-signing Cutler. I'm just saying people need to stop with this "hope" nonsense that he's going to become some player he's not. He has good games, he has bad games. And rarely if ever are the good games against good teams.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) Dude talks about McCown not making boneheaded plays but he made bonehead play after bonehead play last week. He also says McCown doesn't have playmakers on Tampa which is not the case. When Jay sucks, I'll say he sucks. I thought he played good, not great football last week and was better then a slight majority of the QB's last week. It is a week to week league and the season is won over the course of a season. The key is that Jay's bad games aren't much worse then he played last week...if that is the case and his good games are very good, he'll have a great year and we'll have an offense that can win in this league, however, it can't win without defense and other aspects of the game (just look at how much Green Bay has struggled the past couple of years, despite elite QB play). He was terrible for 3 quarters, and then he was pretty good in the 4th. Guy is in a new system with a terrible offensive line and SOME weapons (I didn't say none, but clearly not the same as Chicago). And guess what. He had a chance to win the game at the end. Also it's hilarious you think Jay played "good." According to football metrics, he was one of the worst QB's of the entire day, taking 3 of the worst 6 plays of the day. http://regressing.deadspin.com/jay-cutler-...-wee-1632009572

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 12:58 PM) I'm sorry, isn't the weapons around Cutler sort of the key to your argument? I would think both of his WR weapons going out for a period and one of them making a costly fumble would be relevant. He lost Jeffrey. That's it. He still had Forte, Bennett and an 80% Marshall. Missing Jeffrey didn't cause the moronic interception that lost the game. The O-line replacements were more than adequate. And I won't even start on the Conte nonsense.