JUSTgottaBELIEVE

Braves just blew a 3 run lead in the 8th/9th to the Nationals. Perfect timing as if they needed another reason to strengthen their pen.

But the flamethrower is 29 yo and only career 25 IP In MLB with little success.

Calm down

Any and all pitching is at a major premium right now. The Martin trade and now this trade made that much clear.

I think Phillies nab Greene

My prediction is Braves

Very likely (like 99%) it’s not a big deal but if you miss out on a $100k signing like Acuna or $350k signing like Albies it’s a very big deal.

I’d be shocked. With the way this market is forming, I predict the Sox reign in a top 10 org/borderline top 100 MLB prospect for Colome.

Funny. I’m sorry but you’re just wrong. Are we talking about the same Martin that’s never closed before and only has a grand total 116 IP in MLB? Zero track record for a dude that’s 33 years old. Even if you throw all that out and just look at the present, last year Soria was pitching just as well as Martin is this year but as the team’s primary closer, not 7th/8th inning guy (the guy has 5 career saves, Soria had 3x that at the time of the trade last season alone). Secondly, when was Kodi ever rated a top 100 MLB prospect? Lastly, Allard was recently/consistently rated a top 100 guy, was the #12 prospect in a very good Braves system earlier this month, and has more than held his own in AAA the last two years as a 21/22 year old.

At the time of the respective trades, Soria > Martin and Allard > Kodi

No, not really

Key word “if”. Either way, I’d be pissed if Sox traded Collins for Martin. You wouldn’t?

See post above. I can understand why Braves fans are upset. Considering they are the second best team in the NL, they should be packaging a few Allards for a better pitcher, aim higher than Chris Martin. Maybe they still will, they should.

Let me put it another way, this would be like the Sox trading Dunning or Collins (BA #11/#12 for WS) for Chris Martin. I’d be pissed.

BA had him as the Braves #12 prospect in their mid-season update. And I think most would agree the Braves have a very deep system no?

Again, Chris Martin. Having a nice season but zero track record. This would be like the Sox trading Evan Marshall for a 45 FV.

He’s still a 50 FV and did I mention Chris Martin?? Dude has zero track record.

For all those that doubted Colome had much trade value, this is Exhibit A for why Colome should return at least one high end 50 FV prospect. Chris freakin Martin returned Allard, I mean seriously.

Unless he’s available at an extremely affordable cost, why would the Sox be interested in Pederson considering he’s a free agent after next season?

He’s had a rough year at the plate but still a career 709 OPS as a just turned 25 year old isn’t that bad for someone with his defense. If he can get that OPS into the upper 700s, he’s 2016 Adam Eaton. Hit 20 homers in AAA in 2017 pre PED ball (12 homers in 427 PA in MLB last year) so the power is there and he has a decent 8.3% walk rate in MLB. I doubt the Cards give him away but I’d definitely trade a chip like Colome for him. Bader will likely end up more productive at the MLB level than any prospect they would receive in return.

No pop? 186 ISO in AAA in 2017, 158 in MLB last year and 145 this year. For reference, Eaton was 144, 144, 165 in his 3 seasons with the Sox in which he averaged 4.5 fWAR.

I think he’s a great buy low option. He’s been unlucky at the plate this year and just turned 25. I can definitely see him being a 775 OPS hitter and a RF in the mold of Adam Eaton with his speed and arm strength / elite defense.

Either guy can play CF or RF at an elite level. Bader has the arm for RF. Sure would be one way of compensating for Eloy’s lack of range in Lf...

https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/video/statcast-bader-s-95-1-mph-throw

He and Robert could make for a dominant defensive pairing in CF/RF.