Texsox

We have one of the best education systems in the world. It isn't racist to believe that 12 years in this system will qualify someone for a better job than someone who was educated in a third world country. Currently over one hundred shrimp boats are sitting in harbor and not fishing because the Labor department is now refusing the work visas they have approved in the past. There are jobs for almost a thousand people. It is for four weeks and required you to live on board the boat. Ads have been placed in newspapers all over the country and almost no takers. Meanwhile, the workers who have been working those jobs for decades are sitting 25 miles away, in Mexico, ready and willing to work. The American shrimpers and screwed, each boat carries about $40,000 in fuel so the fuel companies are screwed, wholesalers who really on those shrimp are screwed, truckers, etc. http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/shri...ers_season.html Is this what you want? Where are the American workers willing to work for three weeks for damn good pay?

QUOTE(NUKE @ Jun 30, 2007 -> 10:03 PM) Yeah. Tie LEGAL immigration to job growth. Stopping ILLEGAL immigration needs to be done first. Of course. But they are here because of demand, as a country, it is in our best interest to make certain that we respond in our best interest, not what is politically popular today. We'd be cutting off our nose to spite our face by just deporting 12,000,000 WORKERS and their families. The businesses will suffer and so will we. Put in a plan that fills the needs of American business and controls the number of immigrants, I'm more in favor of reducing the H1B VISA program and creating more high end jobs for Americans than trying to push low end jobs on Americans. Our education system is better than that.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jun 30, 2007 -> 08:31 PM) Everyone makes it sound like the money comes out of OUR pockets to keep a popular productive pitcher. Last time I looked the results were covered in the sports section with runs scored not ROI from the financial pages.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 12:03 PM) Which is funny, because with the lack of income taxes in Texas IIRC, I read a number of years ago that athletes and others like actors, entertainers, were being taxed in some states when they played there. Found a link, there are others, I love the Jordan angle http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=15642

I saw the headline and thought, which one?

QUOTE(Yossarian @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 01:47 PM) making law from the bench. Then Bush shouldn't sign them when they cross his desk. When did we change our constitution to allow judges to make laws?

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 02:09 PM) Thank goodness. And f*** you, Lindsey Grahm... and Harry Reid, and most important, Dubya... next time, listen to your constituents. The other thing is, GET RID OF THE DEMAND... in other words, PUNISH THE CRAP out of companies that are using this illegal labor. They are more the problem then the people here. If the people can't work because there's no jobs for them (i.e. people have to be LEGAL), then guess what? They'll go home, because there's nothing for them here. The problem of "rounding them up" suddenly goes away. Imagine that. It's a no win for many of those companies. With excellent forged documents so readily available, the could be getting punished for being a victim. And if you owned the business who would you rather hire? Someone who risks their lives for the job or someone who you finally got to accept the job because you raised the wages high enough? We need a bill that ties immigration levels to job growth. Unemployment rates have been low for decades and there are still illegals entering this country. It's simple supply meeting demand. If unemployment was higher I could see the argument. But an accountant isn't going to accept a $10 per hour job, he will continue to look for suitable employment.

Isn't it a shame that we have these workers that want to work, while citizens sit on their asses and collect welfare? I'd much rather employ and support someone who wants to work and support their family over someone who happened to hit the lottery by being born here.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ May 31, 2007 -> 08:52 PM) Supportive? No. I would be OK with any business choosing its customers, and I believe that a bar should be allowed to do that if they choose. But you can bet your ass I wouldn't do anything to ever support such an establishment. There is a difference between what I feel personally, and what should be allowed. I despise racism and other forms of bigotry, but a person should be able to conduct their private business in any way they like. This is one of the reasons I really dislike the far-right social conservatives - you can like or dislike anything you'd like, but keep your laws of people's personal lives. This post has been edited by the Soxtalk staff to remove objectionable material. Soxtalk encourages a free discussion between its members, but does not allow personal attacks, threats, graphic sexual material, nudity, or any other materials judged offensive by the Administrators and Moderators. Thank you. 40 years of civil rights and we'd be right back to where we started? Segregated bathrooms? Segregated hotels? Sorry, I can't support that in any way.

WHOA, I'm a little shocked by the above. Y'all would be supportive of No Blacks bars?

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ May 31, 2007 -> 05:03 PM) They also get the fees if the case is settled, but the point is that they get fees where there are no actual damages, not actual fees to be recouped since the services were donated. They incurred no injury and no expense, yet make money. Like I said, a sweet deal if you can get it. And I will conceed a point that especially in today's world, if a city decided to build a new courthouse and have religious symbols all over it, that would attract attention. but when they go after decades old war memorials because they dare have a cross on them, that's going a bit too far. Isn't that what every lawyer does? I agree the retroactive stuff drives me crazy.

QUOTE(Steff @ May 31, 2007 -> 01:36 PM) First thought at a nickname for a child named Salvatore..? Vito?

Picture yourself on a boat on a river. Rollin', rollin', rollin' on the river. Old Mississippi, she's calling my name

As long as they don't smoke, they should be allowed in

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ May 31, 2007 -> 03:34 PM) The lawyers are able to petition for their 'fees' which end up going to the ACLU. That is one of the reasons they target small school districts and such, because they can't afford a lengthy battle, and the insurance companies usually tell them to settle. I'll get you some more info on that later. Yet they have taken on BSA and the Catholic Church, so it isn't just small battles they enter into.

I thought the ACLU represented people, why would they receive the settlement?

I just have no energy to care about anyone outside the 40-Man roster and really only can care slightly on 26-40 except for trade meat for mlb ready talent.

When mlb players start looking and acting like fans and 9-year olds, it is probably a bad idea.

Part of this is also a resource and interest issue on what they choose to defend. They are, after all, largely volunteering. But I think looking over their cases, there is something for everyone to dislike.

Usually those list get about half right, this one is pretty damn good.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 12:04 PM) And then Jenks has to go a second inning, at least, and historically Jenks doesn't preform very well in that next inning. Shhh, you're using logic

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 11:44 AM) I believe that stocks are a long term investment. But I have worked for nearly 10 years with traders and specialists, so my experience is in day trading type settings. It takes a whole different set of thinking for short term versus long term. One is trading, the other is investing. I guess I equate that trading with gambling. I'd go nuts looking at daily fluctuations, I could not imagine minute by minute. You are gutsier than I.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 11:45 AM) I think Tex needs to check out this book. If you have any questions my 19 month old could help you out on manatees http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/03-52-4/524p19.htm Did I mention we were drinking?

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ May 31, 2007 -> 11:36 AM) I think it's total bush league and when Uribe did it to Derek Lee, I thought that as well. I thought the same thing with Uribe. Now I'm wondering if there isn't room for a little bush league?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 11:36 AM) Very nice post ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What he said