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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 23, 2007 -> 12:25 PM) I know in Absolute-land things are either black or white, but there are both services that are being strained by illegals, and others that have not been strained at all. Things such jails, hospitals, and food pantries are bursting at the seams. Many other government programs which have residency requirements have not been touched yet. I hadn't considered it from that angle. Good point, I know the hospitals here have a huge financial problem with all the "tourists" who go into labor while "visiting" the US. Of course their babies then have dual citizenship. Something I think really needs to be looked at. The world has changed in 200 years and is much more mobile. Looking at the numbers, whomever is working these jobs would qualify for the benefits. Unemployment is continuing to be very low, So if we suddenly removed those workers, who would take those jobs and not also be taking benefits? The only group that works those jobs and doesn't take benefits are illegals. So I'm not certain how that should fit into the solution.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 22, 2007 -> 09:09 AM) Actually I would argue the opposite is going to happen. Once these people are legalized, there is going to be a HUGE influx of 12 million new people utilizing social services that they never had used before, because they had no legal standing to them. Its one of the costs of this bill that no one seems to be mentioning. There is probably more unknown about that statement as any in discussing the problem. On one hand, we are told they are already costing us billions in these benefits. Then the same people will turn around and claim they are not using them, but will after becoming legal. Bottom line, we need a system that ties immigration to jobs. That does as much as humanly possible to have these humans "on the books". That decreases the desire for people to risk their lives to find some menial labor job in the US. That equalizes the situation where Cubans become instant citizenswhen they touch the beach, but makes a criminal of any Mexican who does the same thing. It takes government support for the working poor to live in this country. Our options include lowering all our standards to live at what the poorest can afford in terms of interstate highways, clean water and air, military, etc. Or accept that the taxpayers with the most resources will shoulder a greater share of the financial load that it takes to have our publicly supported schools, parks, military, etc.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 21, 2007 -> 07:05 AM) Oh, you'd be surprised how many people here think along the same lines as him. Faulty logic? Misstating facts? Misleading statements? Convenient lapses of memory? Yep, lots of them here. Just check out the GOP only thread I'm joking.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 18, 2007 -> 01:17 AM) Or if Joe's back lands him on the DL like it has the past few years. Our little ray of sunshine . . . Some people look at a glass and say it's half full, some look at the same glass and say it's half empty. Sox fans looks at the glass and says it's half full of s***ty tasting water because K-Dubya bought the wrong kind of water, Ozzie didn't know how to mix it, and we should have swapped our greater tasting water two years ago and we'd have a lake full of great water right now.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:46 AM) This upcoming amateur draft is very important for our future. Not only with the first selection, but more for showcasing to fans that they've finally realized safe picks don't win championships. . So skip over the most highly touted players for the dangerous choice? No thanks.

Happy Birthday!!

Yet, by almost any yardstick, Ozzie is one of the top 10 Sox managers of all time. Amazing.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ May 18, 2007 -> 08:09 PM) I'm so confused.... Just providing a hint, as you look for me among the living and the dead . . . I won't be on this weekend, honestly I forget about the game.

We have bloated SS to the point it doesn't resemble true retirement planning. A harsh way to put this is, the only difference between this and Public Aid is the semblance that most people have contributed to what they take out. The problem is we are now placing people into SS that should be in other public aid groups. If you are injured and can't work anymore, that should be in the unemployment arena or similar until you are 65.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ May 18, 2007 -> 04:54 PM) It' sbeen a long time for me since an 18+ Metro show, but I remember them checking ID's well enough that if you didn't have one that said you were 18 you were SOL. Then again, my girlfriend was the one who wanted to see Echo and the Bunnymen, not me. . Obviously a lie. You and a girlfriend

Spiff who? Happy Birthday!!

I'm starting to understand Rex a whole lot more . . .

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ May 18, 2007 -> 08:47 AM) ok, so you are a pker.....but I have a secret. so depending WHO you are (Ghoulius Caesar is my next guess) I'm actually winning, by a lot. wait.... yosemiteclimber?? I have waaaaay less time in the game then you do.

Even if the offended person handles it without complaining that doesn't make it right. I once asked a few of my Mexican-American Scouts why it was the Anglo kids in the Troop that were madder than they were when some kid started calling our guys wet backs and other slurs. They replied if they got upset every time they heard stuff like that they would be walking around mad all the time. The fact that they didn't complain or get upset doesn't mean they were not offended and hurt. It also doesn't mean those comments should be condoned.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 18, 2007 -> 08:26 AM) I liked it! I liked it!

QUOTE(YASNY @ May 18, 2007 -> 07:58 AM) Why debate a spokeskook? Usually it isn't a wise choice. I can only think of a few cases where it makes sense. If it is your only opponent in a political race. And if you are involved in a pseudo sport like Wrestling or NASCAR. BTW, I think I will trademark spokeskook. I can think of soooo many.

Again, it appears we protect those that we believe need protection and allow the others to fend for themselves. So "breeder" gets a pass and "that's so gay" doesn't. Americans usually pull for the underdog, we don't beat puppies, and don't drown kittens. We creat an elaborate system to produce hamburgers from one animal and an elaborate system to save other stray animals. Middle class white males with all the advantages are ok to satire and poor retarded children are protected. Not certain it fits anyones definition of fair, but that is our society. Work to change it. Some would say we work to change it by allowing anyone to insult anyone, others would want equal attention when they are referred to as breeders. Two totally different solutions.

A little Alice Cooper? Nice touch YAS

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ May 18, 2007 -> 07:35 AM) ? Not me. And btw lifetime, we're even.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 18, 2007 -> 07:31 AM) I love oxymorons. A stretch, but nice

QUOTE(YASNY @ May 18, 2007 -> 07:32 AM) So many people thought a President should give repeated audiences to Cindy Sheehan, also. And like now, I disagreed with 'so many people'. I didn't think she should have had one. And even if you ardently agreed with her, there are so many better spokespersons for the anti-war stance, why send a spokeskook?