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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 10:17 AM) I would only feel comfortable day trading, because that is what I have seen all of my career. That is interesting and perhaps a generational thing brought on by technology. I was raised to think of stocks as long term investments. Perhaps it would be different if I had life events where I knew I would need to sell. You young kids are so advanced

I wonder which Loaiza deal was a bigger steal.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 31, 2007 -> 10:59 AM) ^^^^^^^ Regardless of what anybody thinks of Ditka or Ozzie, I think most would agree with you here. The thing is, didn't Ditka coach the Bears for like 10 years? I can't see Ozzie lasting a decade here, he's barely a third of the way there. Good point and it did take a 5-11 record to finally bring him down.

QUOTE(Steff @ May 31, 2007 -> 10:55 AM) These "men" need to take some responsibility. That is everything. It isn't fire Walker, it isn't fire Cooper, it isn't fire Ozzie, and it isn't fire KW.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 30, 2007 -> 08:50 PM) Jose Contreras for Esteban Loaiza worked out pretty well. IMHO K-Dubs best moments was buying Loaiza so low and selling him so high. I can't think of another situation where I team was so right twice on the same player.

Ozzie and Da Coach seem to be on the same career path. I think we all know it will be Ozzie's mouth that would get him fired before his team's performance. Using the same Walker yardstick, I don't know howa fan could demand Walker's head and not Coops and Ozzies. Ozzie has always seemed erratic, I wonder what the root is?

The long and winding road There has to be a twist I rode my motorcycle in the rain. flirtin with disaster He's going the distance Gonna eat a lot of Peaches And I was standin' on the side of the road Standing in line, marking time, waiting for the welfare dime Then I saw her face The girl with the kaleidoscope eyes A brown eyed girl in hand me downs Blinded me.....with SCIENCE She was the best damn woman I had ever seen Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds She ain't exactly small 42-39-56 BABY GOT BACK! She knows she got everything a woman needs to get a man, yeah. One Bourbon, one Scotch, one beer.I don't wanna touch you too much baby 'cuz making love to you might drive me crazy Cause southern belles are hell at nightI'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride Cowboy take me away Slob on my knob, like corn on the cob Lie back and let me unlock you I've got a brand new pair of roller skate, you've got a brand new key She's a super freak, a super freak, she's super freeeeakaaayyyyyy Why don't you come with me little girl, on a magic carpet ride? You aint seen nothing yet But with a magnifying glance, I just sort of look her over. Now I'm back in the ring to take another swing And I fell in to a burning ring of fire Burn baby burn! - Disco inferno! Burn baby burn! - Burn that mama down, yoh! Yeah Im hot blooded, check it and see Feel the fever burning inside of me Lord amighty! I feel my temperature risin' I'm so hot for you and you're so cold Why can't I free your doubtful mind and melt your cold, cold heart Let's get together Before we get much older. Because I'm turning Japanese I think I'm turning Japanese I really think so Walking on thin ice, I'm paying the price For throwing the dice in the air. You're as cold as ice. You're willing to sacrifice our love I see a little silhouetto of a man, Scaramouche,scaramouche will you do the fandango- Turned cartwheels cross the floor Like the circles that you find In the windmills of your mind I'm so dizzy, my head is spinning. Ride a painted pony let the spinnin' wheel spin. And it stoned me to my soul, stoned me just like Jellyroll Everybody must get stoned That Ain't no way to have fun, son Some people claim there's a woman to blame Young girl, get out of my mind My love for you is way out of line And they called it puppy love Tonight's the night for you to hit it doggie style If you don't expect too much from me, you might not be let down Where it all ends I can't fathom, my friends. If I knew, I might toss out my anchor. I just spent six months in a leaky boat, lucky just to keep afloat. Call for the Captain ashore Let me go home, let me go home The captains tell they pay you well. But How ya gonna make some time when all you got is one thin dime? Time is on my side, yes it is. Time everlasting, time to play B-Sides. When they know they have you, they really have you. Haven't you noticed the days somehow keep getting longer. It won't be long 'til Summer comes, now that the boys are here again. And if you let me cool you one time, you'll be my regular stop. Oh the dashboard melted but we still have the radio. Hey mister DJ, I just wanna hear some rhythm & blues right now On the radio, on the radio, on, on the radio. Dancing in the moonlight, everybody's feelin' warm and right. Well it's a marvelous night for a moondance There's a girl right next to you, and she's just waiting for something to do. Wild thing...you make my heart sing...You make everything groovy. Sing, sing a song, make it simple to last the whole night long I'm singing this note 'cause it fits in well with the way I'm feeling. Boy, you sure took me for one big ride and even now I sit and I wonder why. Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids But Mama, that's where the fun is. And she'll have fun fun fun til her daddy takes the t-bird away. Well, I ain't been home to see my baby, in ninety nine and one half days. Click bang! What a hang! Your Daddy just shot poor me. Bang bang, he shot me down. Bang bang, I hit the ground. I shot the sheriff, but I swear it was in self-defense

This kind of prompted a survey of sorts, what is the shortest horizon y'all are comfortable with when buying a stock? I guess I am contrasting day trading versus retirement planning. There is no way I would want to make a move where I already knew I needed to sell in a day. For that matter, I wouldn't want to buy with less than a year or so. I know I am not asking this clearly. Perhaps this way, what is the shortest amount of time you would knowingly buy a stock for?

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ May 31, 2007 -> 06:04 AM) Hokey smokes. I was unaware of any of that as well. Talk about a biased media. Chicago received all the press. It must have been the anti-Wiscoonsin bias.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 08:33 AM) Happy Birthday and good luck on the impending wedding QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:46 AM) Hope it's a good one, Bro! Happy Birthday!! Beatles, So Deal With It

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ May 31, 2007 -> 07:23 AM) So what if it was a really ugly man drowning? Did you let him? he slipped out of sight too fast, or actually we went by quickly and tacked around back but couldn't relocate. There is a chance it was a dolphin, but we see so many of those and are usually pretty good at IDing them.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:13 AM) I am just asking, because I believe it would still have been the right move to not charge him with anything. I was just curious how far people believe their freedom of speech goes. It is an excellent question and highlights another situation where our freedoms put us at risk.

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:10 AM) Would people have an issue with this (permanent base there)? My dad seems to think that was the point of this entire war. The Bush people thought the best and easiest target was Iraq, which wouldn't take long to overhaul, and then we could move onto the bigger evil-doers in Iran. But along the way we found out that taking over a country and implementing a new government is hard work and takes a little longer than expected. At least it would give us the ability to protect the oil fields... And taking over a country by violence is exactly why some countries distrust us. Statehood for Iraq!

But after we leave, it crumbles like a house of cards.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 07:42 AM) Out of curiousity, if this kid snaps and shoots a bunch of people in a couple of years, will they still feel that dropping the charges was the right thing to do? Great point. I just wonder under existing laws what we could do to stop it? I think about the only option would be an involuntary admission to a Psychiatric Hospital.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ May 31, 2007 -> 08:20 AM) I fixed that for you. When they take on a pro-second amendment case or two, let me know. Great point. I'm trying to think of a Constitutional case involving the 2nd that has been tried recently. We also have the NRA and all of our attorneys there, so the ACLU probably isn't of much help. I know I'd rather have paid NRA attorneys than volunteers from the ACLU defending my gun rights.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 07:01 AM) Well I am glad to see you have stayed consistant with the racist attitude that American's are better than the rest of the world, but migrants are bad enough to work our lowest paying, hardest working jobs. I don't see what is wrong with having American's work tough jobs, but that is just me. For some people their skill set dictates that they would be best served picking fruit or digging a ditch. I don't know why you want to attach a stigma to that, because it is honest work. I know it HAS to be a black and white issue, because that's the way the filibuster, much like our electoral process, has to be, but in reality it doesn't... Anyway, I can't help but thinking if there are still 500,000 people a year willing to risk their lives to get here either by paying Coyotes or risking their own lives in the desert, how many more people would come here legally if given the opportunity? Also think about the laws of places like Mexico, which treat illegals way worse than the US does, pretty much holding them for bribes and/or ranson in some scenarios. How many people never migrate from Central and South America because of those laws who would like to come here? Now look at the wars and genocides in places like Africa... I just read the other day that there are two million refugees estimated in Sudan alone, who are displaced because of the janjaweed. How many of those people would love to have a job in the US? Staying in Africa, how many people have lost entire families from the scourges of AIDS or Malaria, or even famine, and would like to start over in the US. How about all of the Iraqi and Palestinian refugees? Do you think any of them would like to start over here? How about people escaping Shariah in parts of the world? Well anyway you get the point. We could easily find 12 million people around the world who want to work in the US. There are no shortage of people who want to come to the US and work here if we had the balls in institute a real immigration policy, instead of our historic plan consisting of getting here and hiding until the next Amnesty comes around. We need to set our immigration system within other countries so that we can review potential immigrants there to decide who best fits the US and its needs. People should be applying to come to the US at the embassy in their home country, not after risking their lives illegally to get here. That would also remove the geographic bias for those who are close to the US versus people who are half a world a way, but in reality could use the break of moving the US a lot more. Now before everyone starts screaming about cost, the illegals are costing us a lot of money just by being here. I read a Heritage Foundation study that estimated currently illegals cost the US taxpayers $20,000 per person, per year. I am sure that you believe this alone is reason enough to send home 12 million illegals, what with your strong convictions about balanced budgets and all. According to my calculations that would equal out to be about $240 billion per year, which would balance out our budget, problem solved, right? Well even if you are willing to swallow your budget morals in this case and say its OK to go into debt in this case, why not spend the money smarter? If we are willing to swallow $20k a person for illegals, wouldn't you rather spend that money for full US citizens, with all of the rights and privledges that go with that? Well in that case I just found you nearly a quarter trillion dollars a year that is already being spent by the US government to spend on this problem. People to re-fill the labor pool legally, check. Money to fund programs, check. I agree that many more would be willing to come with legal immigration, and we need to do that. As I have said all along, we need to tie any immigration reforms into jobs. No jobs, no immigration. Sadly, no elected official has proposed that. How much does a legal worker in a job that pays $14,000 a year cost the country? That is the point you keep forgetting. The working poor generally qualify for all sorts of benefits. We will be paying that when the legal workers arrive as well. In fact, as you have pointed out, when these jobs go on the books, Social Security takes a hit when more low end jobs are added to the pipeline. Have you figured out how to bring these jobs on the books and avoid that crisis? I did not. Doesn't matter who works these jobs, the budget takes a hit. We have one of the greatest education systems in the world. A person who has the benefit of that system can dream of a better job than working in a car wash. Third world education systems are not that good and access is limited. It isn't racist to know that there is a pool of workers willing and eager to do these jobs and Americans that do not want those jobs. BTW, it was you in an earlier thread that pointed that out. The topic was wars and which soldiers die first. I don't care where the workers come from, but we need a system that allows immigration when we have jobs to support it. I don't care what country these workers come from. I'm not an accountant so help me here. Wouldn't it cost more to bring in a family from the Sudan than Mexico? It does not make sense for a business to spend more to relocate a worker when an equally qualified worker could be found for less. The reason we have these immigrants from Mexico is how cheap it is to arrive on our shores compared to other third world countries. I also know we benefit when we share a border with a relatively stable country. I would love to see the end of illegals coming to this country. I would love to see this problem solved without destroying our economy. The cost to replace 12,000,000 workers with new workers, over night, seems impossible, but I'm certain it can be done. From the standpoint of the businesses that find they have illegals working for them, the cost will be high, perhaps put some out of business. We will probably have to endure higher prices. I have sympathy for those that are victims of forgery, none for those that knowingly hired them.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 07:39 AM) Because the generally protect pedophiles? Its kind of like the Catholic church scandal, but without the scandal. I'm generally not a big fan of the ACLU, they tend to be suing my Church and my employer on a semi-regular basis. But to be fair, they are always defending the Constitution. They do this by making certain that the lowest forms of life are allowed their rights. By making certain that those low life's are allowed all the rights that the Constitution guarantees, we know that everyone else will be protected as well. I don't see anyone else doing that. Free legal services are a rare thing for scum bags to get. It also makes for strange bedfellows. I know one very conservative former attorney turned Judge who was very supportive of the ACLU. His love of our legal system and our Constitution was great enough to want to see it preserved. He would speak of a slippery slope when scum bags (my words) lose their Constitutional rights just for being scum bags. My problem, and I am certain quite a few others here, is how they interpret the Constitution. I never have liked it when we try and paint an entire organization bad based on the actions of a small percentage of members.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ May 31, 2007 -> 12:19 AM) I remember watching Lidsville as a kid back in the day, and it was only a few years later that i realized the weird guy from Match Game was the baddie from that show. I only just found out about the Circus Fire connection after Chas died, but reading it it jogged another bit of useless trivia I had tucked away about that American tragedy. There's a famous front page newspaper photo of Hobo Clown "Weary Willie" Emmet Kelly helping to try to put out the Hartford Fire, and that tragedy actually changed Kelly's make-up for therest of his career. The black teardrop that he always included in his make-up after that fire was his personal memorial to the victims. So yeah, i do need to purge the cranial hard drive of all the clutter. All that ~and~ a PhD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshtigo_Fire I never knew that on the same day as the Chicago Fire three other towns around Lake Michigan also were destroyed with this being the deadliest in history.

QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ May 31, 2007 -> 12:14 AM) The long and winding road There has to be a twist I rode my motorcycle in the rain. flirtin with disaster He's going the distance Gonna eat a lot of Peaches And I was standin' on the side of the road Standing in line, marking time, waiting for the welfare dime Then I saw her face The girl with the kaleidoscope eyes A brown eyed girl in hand me downs Blinded me.....with SCIENCE She was the best damn woman I had ever seen Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds She ain't exactly small 42-39-56 BABY GOT BACK! She knows she got everything a woman needs to get a man, yeah. One Bourbon, one Scotch, one beer.I don't wanna touch you too much baby 'cuz making love to you might drive me crazy Cause southern belles are hell at nightI'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride Cowboy take me away Slob on my knob, like corn on the cob Lie back and let me unlock you I've got a brand new pair of roller skate, you've got a brand new key She's a super freak, a super freak, she's super freeeeakaaayyyyyy Why don't you come with me little girl, on a magic carpet ride? You aint seen nothing yet But with a magnifying glance, I just sort of look her over. Now I'm back in the ring to take another swing And I fell in to a burning ring of fire Burn baby burn! - Disco inferno! Burn baby burn! - Burn that mama down, yoh! Yeah Im hot blooded, check it and see Feel the fever burning inside of me Lord amighty! I feel my temperature risin' I'm so hot for you and you're so cold Why can't I free your doubtful mind and melt your cold, cold heart Let's get together Before we get much older. Because I'm turning Japanese I think I'm turning Japanese I really think so Walking on thin ice, I'm paying the price For throwing the dice in the air. You're as cold as ice. You're willing to sacrifice our love I see a little silhouetto of a man, Scaramouche,scaramouche will you do the fandango- Turned cartwheels cross the floor Like the circles that you find In the windmills of your mind I'm so dizzy, my head is spinning. Ride a painted pony let the spinnin' wheel spin. And it stoned me to my soul, stoned me just like Jellyroll Everybody must get stoned That Ain't no way to have fun, son Some people claim there's a woman to blame Young girl, get out of my mind My love for you is way out of line And they called it puppy love Tonight's the night for you to hit it doggie style If you don't expect too much from me, you might not be let down Where it all ends I can't fathom, my friends. If I knew, I might toss out my anchor. I just spent six months in a leaky boat, lucky just to keep afloat. Call for the Captain ashore Let me go home, let me go home The captains tell they pay you well. But How ya gonna make some time when all you got is one thin dime? Time is on my side, yes it is. Time everlasting, time to play B-Sides. When they know they have you, they really have you. Haven't you noticed the days somehow keep getting longer. It won't be long 'til Summer comes, now that the boys are here again. And if you let me cool you one time, you'll be my regular stop. Oh the dashboard melted but we still have the radio. Hey mister DJ, I just wanna hear some rhythm & blues right now On the radio, on the radio, on, on the radio. Dancing in the moonlight, everybody's feelin' warm and right. Well it's a marvelous night for a moondance There's a girl right next to you, and she's just waiting for something to do. Wild thing...you make my heart sing...You make everything groovy. Sing, sing a song, make it simple to last the whole night long I'm singing this note 'cause it fits in well with the way I'm feeling. Boy, you sure took me for one big ride and even now I sit and I wonder why. Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids But Mama, that's where the fun is. And she'll have fun fun fun til her daddy takes the t-bird away. Well, I ain't been home to see my baby, in ninety nine and one half days.

I don't like a knuckleball late and with men on base. And I'm a huge Wilbur Wood fan so it isn't like I never like aq knuckleball, just not in the 8th in a 2 run game.

Wilbur Wood (well known to older fans so maybe doesn't apply) Switching topics slightly, my all-time favoreite roll player off the bench was on the Bulls, Granville Waiters. At the end of a blow out, the stadium faithful would start a Grraaaaaaaaanville cheer. Back top the Sox. Jorge Orta or Carlos May.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 30, 2007 -> 09:38 PM) baseball that would you personally would like to see stay with the organization through the end of 2008 (and beyond)? Let's just call them "building blocks" for the future, although I know a few will blink once or twice at Thome and Konerko's names. I'll try to average out the results over time to get a clearer picture of where everyone stands as a composite. 1. Buehrle 2. Konerko 3. Danks 4. Garland 5. Thome (we have to maintain some left-handed pop, plus his OBP is so strong) 6. Jenks 7. Gio Gonzalez 8. Sweeney 9. Fields 10. Tie-Thornton/Russell Thome is on a decline and not that important beyond 2007 maybe 2008. If we are thinking just the next two seasons, I wouldn't look too deep at our farm system. 40% of your list has less than a few months of MLB experience. Absent some dream scenario of trades, etc. All the keys for 2007/08 are on the 25 man roster today. Challenges for 2009 and beyond will depend too much on working out contracts with guys like Buerhle.

Are there manatees in South Texas waters? I thought I saw either a manatee or a really ugly guy drowning. I've read a couple sites that say yes, but no one down here reports actually seeing one.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ May 29, 2007 -> 05:12 PM) A Little Charlie Nelson Reily trivia for you: He played the evil magician Hoodoo on the Kroft Brothers' Lidsville in 1971. Butch Patrick (Eddie Munster) pleyed opposite him as the teenager protagonist Mark. As a kid, he survived the infamous Hartford, CN, Circus Fire in 1944, and from that day on he never sat in an audience again. Oh, yeah, I think he also might have been a little gay. How long have you had those facts rattling around, all alone in that brain of yours, waiting to use them?