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Raisel Iglesias over second half Craig Kimbrel. Kimbrel was worth 0.0 fWAR to the White Sox, all of that value accrued to his time with the Cubs. And their respective ages are somewhat germane, as Iglesias will end up signing a 3-4 year deal with someone.

Todd, Adam…why not all three?

One guy over there has Scherzer for 3/$100, Eddie Rosario for $10.5 million and Kimbrel for Kolten Wong’s brother Keon, which will only annoy Fathom even more since the White Sox will never properly address 2B to his liking.

Vaughn OR Jimenez. Read it again. Not both. And there’s good odds neither puts up fWAR numbers to even halve what Buxton can put up in the next 5-7. Unless you feel that Crochet is the next Sale, it’s not that big a deal. That is, unless you’re afraid Jimenez is the next David Ortiz or Manny Ramirez, but that would only be in the DH role that Cruz formerly occupied, not LF. And there’s no comparison defensively since we would have two of the Top 5 defenders in baseball, not to mention Hamilton and/or Engel in reserve for RF backup. The comparison is that every trade is always sold as not just being for THAT season…Hahn is always spinning it in that most favorable of ways. No team will trade for Buxton without at least a 75% chance at retaining him, with the Rays being perhaps the only possible exception, and even they know value…but they’re going all in on extending Wander Franco right now. You can argue you’re paying a premium to trade with a divisional rival, but we still haven’t seen what those Dodgers’ prospects will do in Boston and Washington (Turner/Scherzer deal.)

Obviously, you don’t make the trade unless you have an extension agreed to with Buxton, exactly like we did with F.Garcia in the deal with the Mariners. It’s the exact same reason Hahn hyped Kimbrel and Cesar Hernandez as contracts for 2021 AND ‘22. Whether the Twins would give them that negotiating window, no idea. Probably it’s too risky for both sides, but the principle here is the same as the Betts to LAD trade. Hahn would and SHOULD be fired for making that trade without being able to successfully extend Buxton…especially if he suddenly turned in an MVP season and we ultimately lost him with only a QO comp pick in return to show for it. That extension is somewhere between the $75-85 million the Twins low-balled him with and the money that Berrios just received from the Blue Jays. There’s nowhere else you can get an MVP talent player at such a low price…you’re paying $25-40 million per SEASON on the FA market for it.

On the possibility of Burnes being traded…seems majority of Brewers’ fans were against it, some wanted Hader finally dealt, others preferred Houser. Pretty clear that many could see the outlines of that dominant rotation forming, with the idea of dealing surplus only to get a true haul back on the offensive side of things. Stearns is one of the best GM’s out there, full stop. They didn’t get a good enough offer “Their ask was really high and it didn’t match up. Only a few teams can or will actually trade for him. A bunch of teams don’t even try to compete (like the Pirates) and rival execs according to Passan called it too much. Eventually the value (control years) will go down where it will match up and hopefully he can be dominant for our favorite team until that happens.” https://www.brewcrewball.com/2020/11/18/21573332/milwaukee-brewers-are-calling-other-teams-as-they-look-to-add-hitters-per-report Also found this little gem from Jesse Rogers. Is it possible (for the Cubs) to compete this year and retool for the future at the same time? Rogers: Absolutely. The best way to do that would be to trade closer Craig Kimbrel. That's one guy out of 26 who impacts games every few days. It would be a loss, but righty Ryan Tepera was just named reliever of the month in May; perhaps he could step up for a two-month run as closer. Either way, Kimbrel could bring back a few good prospects while the Cubs continue on their winning ways. Competing doesn't necessarily mean winning it all. The Cubs could definitely do both -- even if they trade more than just Kimbrel. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31565787/the-cubs-actually-good-they-do-trade-deadline

https://instituteforpr.org/unpaid-internships-and-inequality-in-public-relations/ Why Unpaid Internships Create Inequity https://prospect.org/education/unpaid-internships-reinforce-racial-wealth-gap/ We could do this with Congressional internships or Supreme Court clerk positions as well.

That’s also how he ended up (eventually) getting run off everywhere he’s gone…he is unlikely to get another shot if he messes this one up.

Some year, Buxton is going to win an MVP and everyone will wonder why the White Sox didn’t make a run at him when you could get an extension for less than the price of Jose Berrios, a 2.5 spot in the rotation starter. So far, nobody has a very solid idea for OF other than about 25+ Ketel Marte trades that underpay Arizona, Reynolds trades that underpay Pitt, giving Conforto $100 million or Starling Marte $75 million at his relatively advanced age. Knowing the Sox, we finally end up with Frazier and he looks nothing like that first half 2021 version again. And it’s not like Jimenez is currently perceived around baseball as one of the safest bets out there…unless he DH’s, which the White Sox seem adamantly opposed to doing.

So there’s pretty much no way for teenagers to buy condoms without being further embarrassed to death? Heaven forbid, for Gen X it was scandalous buying a Playboy Magazine with the black wrapping paper to keep anyone from opening it.

They’re really claiming Avi can play CF, or Leury, lol?

https://www.startribune.com/twins-byron-buxton-trade-credibility-issue/600118187/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=twins We should just trade Eloy OR Vaughn and Crochet and 2 minor leaguers for Buxton, sign him to an extension and solve the diversity issue in one fell swoop. Now that would be ballsy, since the risk level would be extremely elevated. But those two guys in the same outfield together would be amazing.

OJ Simpson. The end. And when Anna Kournikova turned 40. USA gymnastics/Nasser case. OSU wrestling. PSU football scandal. Len Bias death. Ben Wilson. Jose Fernandez, Yordano Ventura, Oscar Taveras. Actually, Puckett and Clemente… Tyson biting Holyfield. 1972 Olympics. Russia over US in BB.

The odds are still better than 50/50 Giolito will be their most reliable starter at the end of 2023. He’s in that select group of pitchers (less than one per team) who gave more than 170 innings coming off 2020. And his numbers look a helluva lot better if you take out the Patriots Day start and the one TLR stubbornly refused to pull him and a bunch of his runners were surrendered by a reliever.

I’ll take which SoxTalk mod is most likely to make snarky comments for $500, Alex. It was 2021. See that number embedded in the link? Dick Allen’s point was that the layoff/short season in 2020 impacted this season, which is quite obvious to pretty much anyone…starting with games pitchers missed on the IL. 2019, 51 threw 170+, including Reynaldo Lopez, our own innings eater. 2018, 50 threw 170+. 2017, 45. 2016, 64 over 170 With even more focus on bullpen usage than ever before, the true number with two back to back 162 game seasons should equalize in the 38-42 range. Still only 1 1/2 pitchers per team putting up those IP, at most.

How in God’s name is a 12-15% split (used to be closer to 13/14%) a 3x ratio of Hispanics to AA in the US population? 46.9 million AA compared to 62.1 million Hispanic/Latino. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/improved-race-ethnicity-measures-reveal-united-states-population-much-more-multiracial.html That doesn’t count “some other race” or multi-racial in either group, officially. Even if we VERY generously added 20 million undocumented/DACA we don’t even come THAT close to 2/1.

Why is CWS surprised here? You know Merkin will play down things automatically, he’s pretty much a mirror of Hahn and even a bit more pragmatic and realistic than our own front office, guys such as KW and Haber. Garfien is more of a cheerleader, the constantly optimistic type. Merkin even wrote about Burger being an option at second already.

Only 29 pitchers in all of baseball managed that. https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2021&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2021-01-01&enddate=2021-12-31&sort=8,d Only 5 of them were below 3.0 fWAR, with Flexen and Gibson exactly there. Hendricks, Lyles, Irvin, Corbin and Greinke. That leaves you two or possibly three. Only Lyles or Irvin would be in the affordability range most are seeking.

More like McHugh, but he wouldn’t come so cheap…

https://www.southsidesox.com/2021/11/6/22763893/luke-smailes-chicago-white-sox-offseason-plan Everyone in Soxosphere has us trading for Ketel Marte. Somehow adding Kiermaier and Wendle in one trade, Fathom special. Might as well bring back Colome on MLI. Keuchel for Bradley, Jr., might drive everyone nuts. Guaranteed Keuchel ends up Top Ten in Cy voting again next year, lol. This guy has the Sox trading two minor leaguers nobody has even heard of…

They better get rid of Leury then…

BMaggs’ subsequent list is appealing to you…? On paper, they’re all okay ideas, but those players on the White Sox will suddenly forget what’s on the back of their baseball cards. Kiermaier, if it was three years ago.

I’d go with Gausman over Ray, if it was head-to-head. Escobar is fine for a placeholder. I think we’re more likely to see a Vaughn trade than giving Conforto or Starling Marte huge numbers. Ketel Marte would be fine. Bryan Reynolds. Not sure the M’s deal Haniger now…would also look at Trammell in a change of scenery deal, but not for Vaughn…more for 4th OF to replace Engel. Depending on how much $$$ the Padres would send along, would look at Wil Myers, who has had some really inconsistent fWAR numbers. Frazier or Grisham are two more possibilities. Need to make the corner outfield spots more athletic, at least one of them if they’re staying with Eloy in LF. Soler, depending on price. That’s the 2000 offense, but not helping the defense by much. I think we are MUCH likelier to end up with a DeSclafini or Alex Wood type than Gausman, however. Scherzer, no way. More than likely, 50% of excitement is pushed back to trade deadline.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/robbie-ray/11486/stats?position=P Ray had only a 2.8 fWAR cumulatively from 2018-2020. Giving him a $150-175 contract is the definition of insanity for a franchise like the White Sox. Even the three years prior to that, he averaged around 3. That’s certainly good, but not the best usage of $25 million per season to buy at the highest possible price on the market.

And I bet minority ownership for minor league baseball teams is less than 2-3%, another potential avenue into the game… https://www.hwsgroup.com/savits-take-over-greenjackets/ This details the deal (a now tiny $1.1 million profit but still significant in the mid-90s) for the team I worked for in 1994-95. Back then, most minor league teams were available for under $10 million, except the top AA/AAA markets. His (owner’s grandfather) was the founder of Scripps/Howard Newspapers (also known for hospitals/cancer clinics, UPI News Syndicate, National Spelling Bee)…for him, it was just a 2-3 times a year plaything, going to the Winter Meetings, hob-nobbing with other elites. His wife I recall pushed him to get rid of the team. He did spring for really nice championship rings for all the front office staff, but nothing like major league teams get. “Scripps family ranks highest in the Tri-State, at No. 34, with a net worth of $7.5 billion. The family's wealth is a result of Edward Willis Scripps founding the E.W. Scripps media empire in 1878.”