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QUOTE (L. Ron Paultard @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) In a word? Yes. Stats-mongering has always been one of baseball's charming quirks, but there has to be a some limit Look at virtually all other pro sports. From soccer to basketball. Noone in their right mind would use NCAA or NBADL numbers to make definitive projections. Scout the player, not the stats, to the best of your ability. Simple as that. This is why Tyler Saladino and Dustin Pedroia will have stellar careers in the bigs, while BP session monsters like Joe Borchard and Brooks Kieshniek are teh fails. Pedroia and Saladino in the same sentence?

Eaton with seven k's....then a dp ball prevents Abreu from hitting. Eaton has to move those runners into scoring position.

They have to hit on both guys...or the Sox are in major trouble with Hawkins fading.

Farmer was convinced he didn't tag him. Fortunate Longoria didn't break for home.....Abreu pretty much left 1b uncovered there. That could have been a disaster with a runner scoring and the go-ahead runner at second. Abreu has to learn he needs to stay put. Guess they didn't follow DJs plan for a morning workout on backing up throws and proper relays.....forgot rundowns as well.

Don't like anyone very much, supporting Sanders while he's fighting and hope Trump runs as a third party... The jury's still out on Elizabeth Warren running a national campaign...but she could jump in if Hillary's likeability ratings fall another 5-10% As it is, she would be very vulnerable to a youth/change candidate. Depends on where the national economy goes from here.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:04 PM) I am advocating for me to not have to pay for your mistakes. If I chose to help and donate to some charities that do this, that is all good. When you force the charity thru taxation, that is theft. Lots of non-Christians/atheists would have agreed with your last line when the Bush administration got involved in co-funding an array of religious-based charities while he was in office...

DJ asking why anyone's throwing a pitch other than a fastball to Avi Garcia this series....when all four of his hits have come on slow stuff. White Sox offense has disappeared completely.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 01:52 PM) Yeah, better to just kill them before they get here! Problem solved. Tell you what, i'd be agreeable to the government (state, fed, whichever) paying for this stuff, if sterilization is a requirement. If you're dumb enough to get pregnant when you can't afford it, such that the child will be a ward of the state, then you lose your right to conceive for a period of time. Not sure if the science is there to do some kind of temporary sterilization, but if it is, we should start using it. This sounds like a theory from Nazi Germany...to deal with all their undesirable populations like Jews, Roma/gypsies, gays, mentally/physically disabled, etc.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 01:54 PM) I think Carson Fulmer ahead of Tim Anderson is absurd but the rest of the list is about what I expected. The best collegiate pitcher who's more refined vs. a young hitter with a virtually unlimited toolbox but higher possibility of busting is always going to be an interesting scout's debate, then you have the premium position vs. a starting pitcher who only gets into 32-33 games per season.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) Maybe it's just that the Sox could use a win and Rodon is STILL on an innings limit. At the rate he's going he might not even reach 150, and there will be concerns about pushing him up to 200 ip next year. Zach Putnam in...

Nate Jones is warming up....and this is the best situation to throw him out there his first game back?

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) Texas cities don't love baseball like Illinois does. Chicago Major Sports teams, by Popularity 1) Bears 2) Blackhawks 2a) Bulls 3) Cubs Gap 4) White Sox Houston Major Sports teams, by Popularity 1) Texans 2) Longhorns 3) Aggies 4) Cowboys (trust me, this is true) 5) Rockets 6) Astros Texas doesn't value baseball like Chicago does. It's a completely different culture. The Astros are not a true major market team. Houston makes the Astros a mid market team. Except the Rangers have done very well attendance-wise for the last decade. One of the top 5-7 best run franchises in baseball. And the Astros killed it for a decade there with Bagwell, Biggio, Berkman and finally Beltran.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 01:40 PM) Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? You're not too far off. All these for profit/corporate run prisons love our drug laws and are especially effective at sucking in the poor/unemployed who aren't conscripted by a lack of options into the military.

Rodon's ERA has settled in at exactly 5.00. Good thing it wasn't the new Jays' line-up.

Rodon had like 82 pitches....now we act like it's the 7th game of the World Series instead of letting him learn how to pitch through it? Sigh. Typical White Sox.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 01:22 PM) I am not leaving them out, they were not all that good (excluding Hunter). Yes they had some pitching, so do the White Sox, but check how those guys did when they Minnesota and you can see the job that Gardy did. AJ was barely there for a season with Gardy before being sent out for pitching. That infield was filled with Gold Glovers....and this was before the war argument and defensive runs saved. Hunter was awesome, and Jones in his prime was very good as well. They could cover a ton of ground on that turf.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 12:28 PM) The 20/20 vision on Morales is f***ing nuts. Nobody would look at the 2014 of Morales and think he was worth any sort of pickup and even in his massive "bounce back" year he's still been worth only .9 fWAR. Hell, the Melk man will probably pass him in fWAR by the end of the year. Well, it's hard to compare pure DH guys with everyday outfielders. Better to compare Rios/Aoki/Cabrera/YTomas. Nobody would believe the war numbers Goldschmidt and Rizzo are putting up, they're almost doubling Abreu, who has moved back into the top 30 mlb for Ops. However, if you look at Morales' ops numbers in 2012 and 2013, they're not completely out of whack with what he's doing this year. He was months behind when he started last season and never got comfortable in Minnesota or Seattle...neither which are great hitter's parks.

Nothing could be more entertaining than DJ and Farmer interviewing a Victoria's Secret model. Farmer's apparently an expert on the Body by Victoria collection...says his daughters enjoy shopping there. Taylor Hill grew up in Colorado so of course he asked her about the Tulowitzki trade and she had no clue...at least didn't pretend to know. DJ asked where to view her pictures...."google me!" Touting the White Sox VS collection, lol. Where to find VS stuff....the website! Should have asked her which of the Angels are evil mean super b****es??

QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) Not true. College players make it the majors in that timeframe. Drafting is about making ASSETS. Dave Dombrowski was not very good at producing home grown talent but he was a master at drafting power tools and selling high on them before their value expired. He was with the Expos and Marlins, but that was probably before your time... And he was smart enough to take an anomalous/outlying year from Edwin Jackson and turn him into Max Scherzer.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 11:02 AM) Yeah we're stuck with Shark and he's overpaid. Jesus. Shark is going to take every start for the rest of the season because we supposedly owe him the opportunity to get a big free agent deal. Between Sale and Rodon's turns, they better give Johnson some meaningful non-September starts or the the front office will again be stuck not knowing who they can count on for next year. Instead, we're going to keep sending Shark and Danks out there every fifth day, which will benefit the White Sox how exactly? They should even send Montas out for 2-3 starts to see where he's at with his repertoire, stamina and command with big league hitters.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 10:55 AM) If we really want to be taken seriously then we need to open the bank a bit for a quality player, Heyward is the type of talent/age combo I could see them paying. You're probably right though, but a lesser player in the same mold would be fine. Maybe a trade for Carlos Gonzalez could be worked on in the offseason. And while the excitement of 80 whatever stolen bases Micah had has certainly hampered, I think he profiles as a .300/.360/.420 type of guy in the majors and batting out of the 2 hole would give us another on base threat behind Eaton and in front of Abreu/Melky. I'm a big fan of the rotating DH because it would allow us to minimize the time he would spend on the field, his weakest area. The same logic could apply to Melky. We can have Cargo this month via waiver claim....but not sure it's the right move to keep adding injury-prone veterans with big contracts. Trading/dumping LaRoche won't be easy at all, and you know they aren't in the business of eating that much money, or Danks would have been sent packing years ago.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 10:52 AM) My biggest problem with this reply is...it's an argument for why the White Sox can't afford to rebuild, why the White Sox can't afford to do things like have 4 losing seasons out of 5 years. The White Sox ARE about to have 4 losing seasons in 5 years. It no longer scares me. We already, 100%, did the thing we were never, ever, ever supposed to do. The thing that people tell us nightmares about. The thing that will destroy our fanbase if we do it. We just did it, and the end result isn't a roster where you look to the future and think we're going to be a nightmare for other teams. Does nightmare for the fans count? I just read here where all of the Cubs' young players are possibilities to bust....is their being 11 games over .500 at this point solely due to luck, Maddon, Rizzo, Arrieta and Schwarber?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 10:39 AM) I'm just thankful that Bryant, Soler, Russel & Castro might all be huge busts. Don't forget Baez and Schwarber. Heck, they're already writing off Almora quite a bit.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 10:40 AM) I don't think a full rebuild will ever happen, and I think we are about halfway ready to compete now based on the pitching. What we need to be a winning ballclub (imo)- - A new RF. This is a free agency need, I think Heyward fits the bill perfectly with the age/defense combination and his bat plays pretty well. Removing Avi's horrible defense and popless bat is a massive boost to the team. - Micah Johnson at 2nd base. Even with Carlos Sanchez recent hot streak with the bat, I can't forget the amount of time he spent batting under .200 this season and don't think he will ever hit well enough to warrant the starting role. While his defense is stellar I truly believe Micah's offensive profile is something this team desperately needs. - Dump LaRoche and get away from this player profile at DH. A high slugging lefty bat worked when Jim Thome was here - but that was Jim Thome. Adam Dunn and LaRoche have been cancers on offense and payroll. Rotate players through DH and find a strong defensive sub (Carlos Sanchez/Trayce Thompson?) to cover infield/outfield to hide liabilities on defense (Melky, Eaton, Micah) - A 3rd baseman that plays at least league average D and can put up close to a .750-.800 OPS. This is probably the hardest piece to find nowadays. - To continue drafting quality starting pitching. While it seems silly to say I don't have faith in paid professionals producing position players, we haven't had a good one in awhile. I think the key to us getting quality players is to continue pumping out high quality pitching and then eventually deal it off for young, cost controlled players. There's already two problems with your plan. Heyward's going to get around $150 million over 6-7 years. It won't be from the Sox. Micah's main plus attribute is speed, and he's had hamstring issues for two consecutive years...along with the defense, those are two major red flags. If he's not a 30-50 stolen base guy, and he's not Billy Hamilton in cf, he won't last long unless he can hit like Ray Durham. Any talk of rebuilding has to be centered around trading Quintana and/or Sale to be taken seriously.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) Past Sox drafts have almost nothing to do with future drafts. Most of the people involved are totally different. Except for the White Sox people doing the drafting. Guess we'll know by 2019 or 2020 about Hostetler.