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Discuss/debate/argue. I vote for Viciedo at 3B, Vizquel at 2B and Gordon Beckham to Charlotte. It's time for us to get Gordon straightened out in a stress-free environment. He's just pressing way too hard and has never encountered failure.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 11:07 PM) Alex Gordon's middle name is Rios? Strange No, no. New personal hitting instructor for Beckham=Alex Rios

QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 11:05 PM) This team is a Dunn or Fielder (pipe dream) from being legit. Which is exactly what we said coming into the season...except then it was Thome, Matsui, Vladdy, Damon, Abreu, etc. Nothing has changed. Just that Jones bailed out KW with six weeks of hot hitting.

Maybe we should name Alex Rios Gordon's new hitting coach?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 11:01 PM) The only problem with playing Viciedo at 3rd is you're going to hurt our defense, and that's something that's really carrying us right now. If Quentin's hitting, maybe we can carry Lillibridge/Ramirez/Vizquel across the infield, but I would still take a shot with Viciedo getting hot before I would go to Lillibridge again.

Thornton was just at 98 and 99 against Escobar? Is that possible? Seems he was really reaching back for a bit extra but losing some control that inning.

Rob Deer hit below .200 with huge power and K's one year. Beckham has Alex Rios-itis (2009 version) and Alex has switched hitting ability with Gordon, sort of like Freaky Friday. I don't know if he's going to get things figured out in the heat of a pennant rate....this is becoming like Brian Anderson in 2006, except we have Vizquel that can play 2B with Viciedo plugging in at 3B. Right now, there's no other choice for Guillen until KW can make a move.

Gordon back below .200 and hovering around a 520 OPS, which might be the lowest of all qualified MLB hitters. They have to pull the plug on him for now and see what a new environment in AAA can do for him.

FWIW, KW not tearing down the team in 2007 and then giving up on 2010...turned out to be the right decisions, although this year I don't know if he had an opportunity to do anything but dump AJ, and even that was a bit premature. Just lucky timing for KW to have the interleague schedule solve the question for him and JR.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 10:45 PM) I miss that guy! It's not too late to name my son Quentin! I think he's really pissed off SOXTALK removed him from the banner, from what I've heard. Fortunately, he's taking it out on the baseball for now.

Well, JJ certainly qualifies as KW's best offseason move, along with Vizquel (now) and Andruw Jones for 6 weeks (he really kept us in there offensively so we didn't get totally buried, and he can always play D). Pierre and Teahen, not so good. IS CARLOS QUENTIN BACK? Is it possible? He's really locked in now...

Wonder how much Putz will get on the open market? He's back up to 95-96 with the fastball, along with the nasty splitter. Does KW dare make a play for him? Does he dare bring back Jenks? Personally, I think we're better off with Thornton in his current role.

Poor Cleveland blew another 9th inning lead, this time to the Phillies. I think the only team who hasn't touched up their bullpen this year is the White Sox.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 10:32 PM) Have I mentioned how much I love Omar Vizquel and just how happy I am that he's succeeding? I think if he ran against Chavez today he could become presidente. Who doesn't love Omar?

Interesting bullpen decisions coming up from Guillen....

Morneau K's. 4 games back. Sign Vizquel to a 3 year contract extension.

Typical Buehrle. 2 outs in the 9th, 5-3 Brewers lead, tying run coming to the plate after Mauer RBI double off Axford. I know it's crazy, but I walk Morneau here and put him at 1st. We'll see.

Huge out. Now what?

I would rather have Vizquel than Grudzielanek, not even close. We have to move Omar to 2B and try Viciedo at 3B and live with the errors if he can hit. Buehrle is really on the edge in this ballgame...sucks that those two plays at the plate both went against us or we'd have some more breathing room. Well, that's baseball. And Mark came through with a huge pickoff, as he always does the little things to battle through games. 5-2 Brewers, UH-OH. That's not good. Does Ozzie leave in Buehrle?

Starting off as a pitcher's duel.

Liriano down 1-0 in the 4th, but could easily be trailing 3-0 but has dealt very effectively with Prince Fielder and Ryan Braun. Mets continue to be the hottest team in baseball, up 3-0 over Bonderman and threatening for 2 more. Could be 2 behind the Tigers and just 3 1/2 behind the Twins if everything breaks perfectly tonight. Pretty amazing turnaround.

QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 07:17 PM) Yes, the story of the 2000 White Sox! What, rain delays or fights with Fick/Weaver/Samuel?

Which still was still good enough to get us Contreras and a cash subsidy from the Yankees, perhaps the biggest single key to the 2005 season....and post-season. You know it had to eat a bit at Cashman to see El Duque and El Gran Titan de Bronze both dice up the Red Sox in the post-season. Speaking of blasts from the past, how long will Alan Embree's career last?

Threets has the arm and the pedigree, the only questions (and they're big ones) are his health and command/control.

Agreed. Now if we see the likes of the rest of the Charlotte roster (including Jordan Danks, Lucy or Morel) trying to man any roles in 2011, then you know we're in serious trouble. But it's really limited to Viciedo, Hudson, Flowers and the very unlikely possibility Mitchell catches fire and can replace Pierre next season, although that's looking like a 5-10% likelihood at best. Perhaps you can add Sale into that mix. We'll just have to wait and see, as well as Threets for Williams. Other than that, it's just a few pitchers like Santeliz, Torres or Nunez possibly trying to replace Jenks/Pena, but we might have to go outside of the organization via trade or FA, like we did with Putz (one of KW's better offseason moves).