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Thought the farm was 19th after the trades…a more recent update or different ratings servuce?

Today's topic... Which current MLB GM's would you take Chris Getz over? Why? Discuss.

Why pursue a speed power defense based approach in a stadium that favors power hitting traditionally…? Dumping Burger…who they didn’t 100% believe in defensively. Moncada will be gone, likely replaced by Montgomery at third…who will require time to adjust to a new position. Vaughn will never be much more than average at best. SS/2B won’t hit enough to make defense worth it. AB looks to be at best average in LF. RF is non existent. Michael Taylor or Bader? Both seem out of the current budget. Catching would be pretty great if both those guys were 5-7 years younger. So our defense and pitching first is based 85% on strong or improved defense up the middle…but no plan how they will win with one of the very worst offenses in an offense-first stadium (monster Jimenez DH year?), and with nothing resembling a closer, either. Leasure ???

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/latest-mlb-rumors-bellinger-snell-225008234.html Dodgers pursuing Bieber trade now

Those comps don’t work well without Seager/Semien/Garcia and Carroll/Gallen/Kelly/Marte…

That's filling nearly an entire 2026 roster with players other than their current 25/26 man outside of Robert Montgomery and Scholz. Maybe Benintendi...more likely not.

He's also not in his early 20's...

With $700 million contracts at stake and one of the poorest countries in the world (when combined with the other side of the island, Haiti)...it's almost impossible for me to believe we can say anything with 100% certainty just yet.

You're starting to sound like Bill Walton crossed with early 1990's heyday Dick Vitale.

2021 Carlos Rodon...or 2024 Johnny Cueto That still might get outbid.

Really wondering if RIck Hahn has any intention of working in baseball (at any level) again or is just going to go the way of Jeffrey Luhnow or the Braves' Coppolello? KW, even though their ages aren't THAT far off, would be more shocking, unless he found a job somewhere in the vicinity of Arizona. I'm going to put the shelf life of Chris Getz lasting as the GM as either 2026 or 2027. Josh Barfield will rise to be the obvious heir-apparent. Grifol will be lucky to make it through all of 2024...unless the mockery from all around baseball reaches TLR levels from two seasons ago.

Ask him whether the Sox should have acquired Jared Kelenic from SEA...?

Brooks Boyer or Williams, lol?

The two who might actually be worse would be Hostetler, Haber and let's throw whatever the heck has happened in the Dominican for all those many many years since the Dave Wilder Debacle. And whoever decided we couldn't afford a single scout to consistently cover the Pacific Rim countries after Iguchi/Takatsu in the mid 2000's.

There's no way to objectively PROVE anything, since scouting/drafting/evaluation are separated from development. But if the White Sox record in development is "league average" by any standard you want to apply, then we've just set one of the lowest possible bars for what is considered average. But I'm sure that there will be some arguing TLR was a better manager than average in 2022...while the majority who watched all the games would say he was one of the 2-3 worst of all-time Sox history. However, the Fangraphs article posits the backed up with statistical evidence argument that the Sox had the very worst replacement players (aggregated) than any team in modern baseball history. You can blame Hostetler, KW, Hahn, JR, Jeremy Haber...that's the magic of this organization, avoiding responsibility for being held accountable for poor results for much of the past 18 going on 19 years since the World Series.

Our Baghdad Chuck.

This stupid storyline of attempting to compete on the fly keeps colliding with reality...that youngsters aren't good enough or simply aren't ready. Of course, Getz has NOTHING invested into Lee's success, personally. But if that's the plan, you have to sign a legit RFer and a legit back end of the bullpen option and someone with more pop in the middle infield. It's all pretty much academic if this is the 2024 rotation on the field (current roster), MINUS Cease. It also is a bit ironic that the guy who COULDN'T beat out 2023 Maldonado is still buried behind him on the very worst team in baseball entering the season, going from Houston, arguably the most successful of the past decade, along with LAD.

Stassi has 102, 88 and 87 and 82 games played (the four highs, one from 2022) during his most productive career seasons 31 GP in 2020, so basically half again. Will be 33. Just very skeptical of an aging catcher coming off nearly a full season off at that age, but maybe we'll all be shocked. But it seems they realized that Lee wasn't a realistic option for the start of the year...wanting to avoid getting TOTALLY buried in the standings like 2023.

They must have had a SNEAKING suspicion that Lee wasn't going to be able to hit over .150 again and that all the defensive gaps (other than throwing arm strength/release) were going to be a massive detriment to the young pitching. THAT and the fact that going into the season with a relatively older catcher in Stassi coming off an a "missing" season probably wasn't the greatest strategy...especially if you look at average number of games caught. White Sox better just move back their outfield fences to the deepest Old Comiskey distances ever recorded...

What next, the Sox had an 8% increase in attendance because a majority of female fans thought he was handsome/charming as well? The Kirk McCaskill of his (brief) Sox generation. Does Getz get credit for that, too?

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-free-agency-blue-jays-181812032.html The Toronto Blue Jays have been one of the teams potentially in the market for free agent outfielder Cody Bellinger, but they’ve reportedly made another move Tuesday, inking Kevin Kiermaier to a one-year deal. According to MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand, the Jays are closing in on a deal that would pay Kiermaier roughly $10 million for the upcoming season. Would have been a solid flip candidate and helped shore up the outfield defense with two GG'ers in Robert and Kiermaier playing next to each other...theoretically helping out the youngish pitching staff as well. Guessing the Sox were hoping for a $7-8 million deal, or maybe they were never interested at all, not wanting to move Robert out of center and Kiermaier being much better suited for that spot as well? Then again, ANYTHING's better than the Vaughn/Sheets/AB/Colas/Eloy of 2022 and 2023. Health always one of the biggest questions, and inconsistent offense and simply being near/er the end of his career as well. https://sports.yahoo.com/yankees-acquire-rhp-cody-morris-175809468.html Often-mentioned Sox OF acquisition target about 2-3 years ago. Not quite sure if this is enough for them to move on from Oscar Gonzalez, but MAYBE. In the mix, at least.

Could it be Marty34 back again? Stubborn intransigence in the face of overwhelming evidence is a similar trait.

Somehow they got those two sides twisted around...much like Tyler Flowers. As a plus for Seby, the defense held up for 2-3 months to give him around a 1.0-1.5ish fWAR, but then the offense just totally cratered. He also had his one offensive run (not including 2-3 run homer games) in 2022 when he looked passable for at least half the season while hitting, but it was unfortunately a mirage in the desert. (Of course, the White Sox failed to get much defensive improvement out of Narvaez and Yermin, and Grandal continued to regress, partially because he just aged out, but it's certainly not like they were the team you selected to "fix" that aspect of your overall game, not at all.)

Eduardo Escobar would be another. Carlos Martinez's son had a decent run for the Cardinales. Chris The Dragon Devenski.

Vera was expected to be a future rotation mainstay when he signed...and the White Sox had had an excellent record with Cuban signings until Vera, Yogurt Sanchez and Cespedes. Just ran out of low hanging fruit and had to compete with the rest of baseball for that diminishing rate of return. Tatis' brother would be another...although not Cuban. Those injuries happen with pitching because of the elevated rate of volatility...that's why mid market teams need 2-3x minor league depth to fill holes over the course of a season.