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I should have clarified - this is about what you think will happen... not what you think should happen. My list would have been vastly different if it was based upon what I personally want to see

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 24, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) Who would ya'll rather have Benintendi package from Boston or Bregman package from Houston? I actually would really love to see an Anderson and Bregman infield for the next 6 years at least. Both. Sale = Bregman headliner Quintana = Benintendi headliner

Who gets traded and who stays? Copy and paste the following then alter your choices.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 11:12 PM) My dream trade with the Astros is Sale for Bregman, Reed, Tucker, Paulino, & Stubbs. That would be an absolute haul IMO, alllowing us to fill three holes (2B, 1B, & SP) immediately and potentially have CF & C solutions down the road. Why no Martes?

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 10:22 PM) ...Hector Santiago... Speaking of which, maybe we could trade him for Mark Trumbo and then trade Trumbo for Adam Eaton

I just wanted to say: -Adele

Still don't understand their starting pitching now. They've got only two good starting pitchers I'm aware of. Can someone enlighten me please?

What the hell is Seattle going to do in their rotation now?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 08:36 PM) Walker still has a ton of upside, but it's in the same erratic/inconsistent way that Rodon does... Imagine if we got that return for, let's say, Rodon and Frazier (or Saladino), would anyone be happy? Segura was almost a non-tender guy last offseason and had a huge bounceback year, but can you count on that if you look at his numbers year by year? Walker/Marte are not equal to Rodon/Frazier. Segura had his best year last season so they indeed sold him high... but he also did have a 3+bWAR season on his resume. Again thou, I know nothing about the other two pieces going to Seattle - whichever I'm sure had something to play in this movement.

Segura just put up a 5 bWAR season and Walker hasn't had more than a 1.5bWAR year. They're getting two extra years with Walker... I know very little about the other pieces. If anything - Arizona must really believe in Walkers potential. Surely this confirms the value of our chips.

Hey look, a real trade! That surly also helps enforce the value of Sale / Q.

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 06:24 PM) Another example of why we need an overhaul with our pro scouting department. Avila, Navarro, Jackson, Latos, Rollins, Lawrie, Shields, and goes on and on over the recent years They should have hired me in 2011.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 07:05 PM) One would think that...but their rumored interest in Mike Napoli would say otherwise. And if Gurriell is a better 3B then Todd can easily play 1st for them as well. I have no idea if the Napoli rumor is true or not, but if it is I'd have to imagine getting Frazier on a reasonable 1 year deal would be pretty enticing instead. Fraizer would mash hardcore at Hustons home park.

Best quote from the article:

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 06:16 PM) They were actually incredibly reasonable. Lots of good stuff in there. Indeed, there were a few voices of reason advocating Sales value... even defending the notion that Bregman's inclusion is a must.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 06:07 PM) No offense guys, but the Astros aren't giving Springer & Bregman for Sale. If you honestly think that's possible, you're in for a world of dissapointment. But using WAR as a basis for that stance is just plain deplorable!

Berry interesting - thanks for the post.

Houston would hate giving up just Bregman alone Read some of the fan posts on their Soxtalk equivalent here.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 04:41 PM) If I am trading Sale I want to build farm system, by time Sox start being good Springer is gone. Also I believe he is a FA in 2020. If they execute things right, becoming a contender won't take 5 years. They have more assets going for them to aid in rebuilding than any team I can think of recently.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 04:27 PM) Springer has way less team control than I would want for a team rebuilding. Dude isn't a free agent until 2021. That's a lot of control dude.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 03:48 PM) Ok, I ask again...can we assume these guys are going to duplicate their performances for the next 6 years? Springers production is proven. Bregman is more of a prospect than Beckham ever was. Of course you can't assume it but you can weigh the risk.

Springer and Bregman are both protectable 5 WAR players annually. Springer hit 5 WAR last year in his first full season and Bregman nearly hit 2 WAR in 44 games. Sale's highest bWAR season was 6.9. A trade for Sale for those two players alone would be a massive overpay. If it happened, we should all be elated and send Hahn Hersey Kisses, Bubble Bath, Red Wine, and Roses.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) Where'd you read that? Guy only owned it for what 5 years? That's dumb, interested to see what it goes for though. Looks like it was some unsubstantiated bulls*** on twitter, disregard

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) Just curious, what is the track record for Carpe Diem calling trades in the past? It's irrelevant, as he isn't claiming to be a source.

QUOTE (Carpe Diem @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 09:51 AM) In regards for the Sale derby. Red Sox actually appear to be telling the truth when they say they won't pony up the price it would take to get Sale. Apparently Bregman and Springer are being dangled (not together) but the team still would ideally prefer trading him to the NL. Take this with a grain of salt if you want, but my source has been right about everything he has said so far dating back to 2014. Good. I'd be happy with a Dodger package including Urias and Bellenger +++ or an Astros package with Bregman ++++ or Springer +++++. I bet the Red Sox change their tune and come in with an offer last minute when they see we aren't balking. Edit: is your source someone who is also employed part time as a circus act?