Chicago White Sox

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Exactly. What are we ultimately going to be pay in free agency for a guy to provide us with #5 stater innings in a lost season? $5M to $6M minimum if not more? Gonzales wouldn’t be substantially more than that. And White’s salary write-off is like $7M per year. That’s like going with Sosa or Popeye over 1.25 Leury Garcia’s for reserve infielder role.

He might outlive us all.

For Yu-Min Lin and a lottery ticket?

Kelenic is the main course here. The Braves are effectively buying him from the Mariner’s to help their payroll situation. You just rarely see trades like this and it’s rarer to have the team buying the player to be one with a super high payroll already. If clubs are willing to make trades like this, the Sox should be all over it because we need some warm bodies as placeholders and desperately need more young talent in the org.

This is a salary dump. But for a like us that needs innings and has nothing better to use the rotation spot, he could have been a good use of bad money for us assuming we got something else.

Oh you meant Alex Colome, was really hard to follow there.

To think we couldn’t take on this level of salary is absolutely laughable. I’m not even a huge Kelenic fan, but he’s the exact type of talent you take a gamble on if you’re the White Sox though. We need SP innings so Gonzalez could fill a spot for a few months and you simply just release White and eat his contact.

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I don’t buy they prefer Norby over Ortiz unless it’s a pure age. A RH bat first 2B just doesn’t seem like what Getz is prioritizing.

I’d be very disappointed with Norby as the 2nd piece in a trade. I love Kjerstad but think another team would be able to beat that offer.

Agreed. I just think I see a path of we luck into a competent pitching staff with the mix of minor leaguers we have and a few free agents. I don’t think we can luck into useful positional guys unfortunately.

They also don’t have enough positional prospects that we can hope will be first division regulars. We’re literally talking about Montgomery, Ramos, & Quero. After that you’re looking at Gonzalez, a bunch of high variance guys (Popeye, Veras, etc), and couple younger prospects a few years out (Burrowes, Wilkow, etc).

Why does he have to make a trade during the Winter Meetings? As much as I’d love to see a deal take place this week, that doesn’t mean he won’t be able to make an impactful deal after the meetings. In fact, if we’re being realistic, we shouldn’t a deal until after Yamamoto, Snell, & Montgomery sign. I’m not sure I follow your logic here.

You literally just convinced yourself there is no market for Cease but a crap Braves offer and that Getz has gotten every single major MLB insider (including Rosenthal who doesn’t get used very often) to claim the market for Cease is intense because they all gain from this non-exclusive info for…reasons.

You’re really hoping we get s%*# for him

Was basically thinking the same thing, which wouldn’t actually be a bad package from a pure value standpoint. Just not an exciting one and I’d personally rather get a potentially more impactful positional guy to headline.

Out of curiosity, what would you need from the Braves to make such a trade?

Which Acuna are you referring to?

A Braves trade would be very unexciting and I’d question the logic of acquiring 8 or 9 players from one org in a single off-season. Are you hearing anything about what we may be planning to do? Seems like Eloy is as a good as gone. Could that happen this week in Nashville?

Hey James, unrelated question, but do we still have money left for this signing period? I just the Orioles signed an 18 OF from Cubs for $450k. If so, not sure we wouldn’t have been in on that.

Go sign Austin Hedges and simply accept the fact that offense will suck a fat one next year.

So is it fair to say you don’t have a great read on the market or are you saying the market is considerably worse than it was at the deadline?

Funny you don’t bring up Heyman & Rosenthal claiming we should receive a “monster” package.

You have to remember that Balta will use anything possible to support his negative takes, including made up trade proposals from a former incompetent GM who is widely panned by the broader baseball community.