Chicago White Sox

Can someone summarize the report?

No offense, but no, we know Jerry won’t commit massive dollars to big time free agents. The year Machado & Harper were free agents, Hahn was slyly suggesting he wanted to sign two whales. For all his warts, Rick desperately wanted to buck the “Jerry won’t sign stars” trend. Unfortunately Jerry is a risk adverse b**** and would rather burn fucktons of cash on mediocre free agents who will likely to flop than take a calculated risk on a large, long-term deal.

Who are you referring to?

Wanting the Sox to target a very ordinary player with two years of control while coming off the worst season in baseball history is quite the take.

Make it stop 😰

You rarely optimize value by combining assets. And Robert is an obvious hold at this point given his bad 2024.

Every time I gain the slightest bit of optimism about Getz, Harold pops in with this godforsaken idea that Chris must be pondering.

He should certainly have a role in the process. Just don’t think he should be driving pitching roster decisions.

I would 100% bring back Soroka as a reliever if the price was right.

Another interesting quote suggests we were pretty close to a deal last deadline

Might as well kick one off: https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-seeking-position-players-in-garrett-crochet-trade-talks

This is exactly the type of move I’d like to see for 1B.

Who would be in the rotation alongside these veterans? At some point we have to give the young pitchers a shot to develop. Cannon looks like a solid backend SP pitcher already. Martin pitched pretty well in his 10 starts. Burke flashed in a small sample size. And Thorpe has nothing left to prove in the minors and should be a valuable SP next year if healthy. Beyond those four, you have 25 year olds in Bush & Nastrini who are running out of time to prove themselves. Let one of them (or someone like Adams) get some run time before Schultz and perhaps Iriarte are pushing for spots later in the season. This team is going to be extremely bad next year and IMO we should be more focused on using our playing time to develop young talent from the few areas of strength than to hope we hit the jackpot on some C tier free agents.

He’s getting up there in age. Honestly, they should probably move him to a bullpen role because he’s running out of time as a SP.

What we thinking the rotation will look like next year? Crochet is 100% getting traded so I think we can safely exclude him from the list. To me, the top four guys below should be pretty much be given rotation spots short of massively bad camps. And from there, I’d probably have an open competition for the #5 role between everyone else. My thoughts are Iriarte & Schultz should probably get time in AAA no matter what, but they will threaten for spots at some point during the season. Flexen can be kept around as a mop up guy, but ultimately we have enough young arms to avoid wasting $5M on a C tier SP. I’d rather invest in some protection for Robert or the bullpen. Davis Martin Drew Thorpe Jonathan Cannon Sean Burke Ky Bush* Nick Nastrini Mason Adams Jake Eder* Jairo Iriarte Noah Schultz*

We’ve got a massive uphill battle ahead of us no matter what. That being said, making blatantly dumb decisions along the way will certainly set us back. This particular hire appears to be a sound one on paper. It doesn’t make us a good team overnight, but to your point hopefully it’s a step in the right direction.

Hire is meaningless? Every single move matters at this point if we ever hope to get back to even mediocrity. This is a very nice move on paper and Sox fans should be excited accordingly.

Super pumped by this move. On paper, he’s about as interesting as they come for a first time manager hire. I do hope he keeps Sizemore as part of his staff.

Worst offense in baseball history isn’t a Santander away from being .500. I do hope they add some sort of veteran bat on a short-term deal, but I wouldn’t go 3+ years for someone like Santander at his likely cost.

I don’t believe Getz to be anti-analytics. He’s clearly trying to execute change in that department to a level that hasn’t been tried before. The bigger concern is does he know what success looks like and will he be capable of replicating it. And that’s why an outside hire would have made much more sense for us. The racial stuff is just silly. Last I checked Maldonado wasn’t white and he was the single biggest leader they brought it. And at the trade deadline, five of the six players acquired were of Hispanic descent. Obviously Jerry is an old school baseball guy, but the Sox have historically been a power oriented club since the mid 90’s and even this recent core was mostly built around power. A bunch of dumpster dives in a lost season doesn’t change that fact. And to be clear, I’m not suggesting Getz appropriately values power (the Fletcher trade still has me concerned in that regard), but I don’t think his goal is to build Jerry’s dream of a bunch of fundamentally sound slap hitters.

That is also true. Agents basically have free access to his Twitter account, so all should be skeptical this happens until it finally does. But would be much more exciting than a Nevin hire on paper at least.

To me, this is the most exciting hire out there. If Chris can bring him on then would be reason for a little optimism.

I feel bad for anyone who would pay money to specifically watch Andrew Vaughn play baseball.

And who else is left of known candidates?