Chicago White Sox

It’s just wild that Getz went out at the deadline and acquired an expensive player who has made our team materially worse. That is legit hard to do.

Garret Guest was the other finalist for the job when Shirley got promoted, so I could see it being him. Just not sure if he can handle that level of responsibility given the he commits to pushing Jeep Wranglers and hyping up Kelenic on Soxtalk.

Heard of Mike Shirley? We literally talk about him all the time…

Based on tonight’s appearance, Castillo is just about fixed as Getz indicated.

Wow wow wow Man has s%*# hit the fan since the trade deadline

The lack of business acumen here is truly astounding. The simple reality is a better stadium will draw bigger crowds allowing for bigger payrolls and a more competitive team. A new stadium should also provide a better fan experience than the one we get today. Not sure why we should all settle for a “perfectly fine” stadium when our future owner is willing develop a better one on his own dime. The bulk of your concerns really make no sense and it feels like you are just trying to be contrarian for the sake of argument.

I think it’s very clear that Getz both panicked at the deadline and backed himself into a corner by prioritizing control. I’m sure anyone worth a damn, even rentals, had outrageous asking prices to start and Getz didn’t want to give up those guys. Unfortunately, negotiations almost always start off with highly unrealistic demands and the deadline is no different. Had he been willing to wait it out more, he probably could have gotten a better SP at a lower cost for Boston Smith. Instead, he likely jumped on what he thought was the more affordable option at the time, well before the actual deadline. Anyone with the slightest ounce of objectivity could tell that trade was an L from the get go from a cost-benefit perspective. And to no one’s surprise, fixing players mid season is hard and Castillo has been a disaster. At this moment, making no trade would have been better than the “innings” Castillo is giving us. Getz deserves to be ridiculed for this trade because on paper it was really bad and even worse in reality. The Doyle trade was also super bizarre and even a bit cocky I’d say. Don’t get me wrong, the dude has some serious tools, but has been a disaster the past two years and was going to be a massive project with the bat. To think they could fix him down the stretch reeks of arrogance and it’s not like the cost was just money. Mason Adams was a top 15ish org prospect and is a better a major league pitcher right now than Luis Castillo. To weaken our biggest area of need (SP depth) to add a project 4th OF when you had a young controllable OF who was crushing LHP when healthy just never made an ounce of sense to me. Yes, Periera is made of glass and maybe they didn’t like his CF defense, but that is such a niche need and a questionable way of addressing it. Ultimately from these two moves, Getz weakened the current team’s rotation and lineup against LHP to improve the OF defense when Peters is sitting. And to make that trade-off, they took on considerable money for next year. I ripped both trades the second they happened and it has nothing to do with hindsight. I also applauded the Brazoban & Bart trades and continue to do so despite the results not being there. There is good process and there is bad process and it’s clear as day that Getz had a bad plan at the deadline, executed said plan poorly, and it’s proven costly right now. I can support not trading your key prospects when you’re competing a year earlier than expected, but there were better trades to be made with guys like Boston Smith, Mason Adams, and others in that tier. I’m not sure how anyone could be arguing otherwise here.

What a surprise that the 38 year old Pham is already injured.

This is legit the single dumbest post I have ever read in my 25+ years on this website. Nowhere in your incoherent rambling did you ever utter something that could be considered rational thought. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.

Yup, and Ishbia is going to finance the bulk of it himself. The Sox aren’t staying at the current location, so while I feel bad for Bridgeport residents, this day was always coming. At least now, the new stadium will remain in Chicago, at a better location to attract casuals & out of towners, and will be an absolute stunner.

How about you go f*** off bro. This would be an incredible outcome for Sox fans and the city of Chicago and yet you continue to make ridiculously stupid statements like”Ishbia doesn’t know where Sox fans live” in a desperate attempt to discredit his vision.

lol…a bit premature to view Smith as 1/100th of the player of Tatis

Just an absolutely stupid trade. I have lost some faith in Chris Getz after this move.

Getz already confirmed that they have talked extension and that Murakami’s camp has expressed some interest. I think this happens before the end of next offseason.

I think many things are consequential when the season could come down to a single game being the difference between making & missing the playoffs. I’d prefer someone who wasn’t 20% below league average against LHP last year and may ultimately not be an upgrade over what we currently have. Is it our biggest problem at the moment? Obviously not, but it’s a bit more frustrating because we had other better solutions in house throughout the season.

The role makes sense. He’s been below average against LHP the last two years though, so just questioning the fit.

So the extra two men to start September will be McDougal & Pham. Tommy will require some 40 man roster move to add him. Junior Perez seems most likely to get DFAed to add him. Probably why they traded for Cave. At some point, Teel will be added to the 26 man roster. With the addition of Pham, it seems like they will only go with two catchers. Romo should have options and sending him down would allow you to hold onto to more depth, but it just feels like the Sox will end up keeping him over Rogers. This would also open up a 40 man spot. On the pitching side, Martin should be back very soon. The most obvious offsetting move is sending Tyler Davis back down to AAA moving Urquidy to the bullpen. And not too far behind Martin is Chris Murphy, who was very good with the Sox prior to his injury. Schweitzer, Urquidy, & Richards are the three most likely to be replaced and in that order. I guess McDougal is also an option to be sent down here as he might just be a placeholder until the injured pitchers come back. Not sure the status of Brazoban and if/when he’ll be back, but that feels like a late September addition base case scenario. McDougal almost certainly goes if/when he comes back. That leaves Thorpe and Sandlin as other guys who should probably factor into the mix somehow. At minimum, Drew will need to end his rehab assignment at some point. My guess is Rogers gets DFAed eventually to open up that spot. I also think Sandlin would be an improvement over several guys right now, including Urqudiy.

McDougal’s line in Charlotte since being sent back down: 4.2 IP | 3 K | 6 BB | 10 H | 11 R | 7 R | 3 HR | 13.50 ERA | 14.44 FIP Definitely the guy who should get the call to solve our pitching woes!

I don’t get this move at all. Pham hasn’t been above average against LHP since 2023 and is now 38 years old. He is also a below average defensive OF and has lost a lot of his speed. What does he bring to the table exactly? More importantly, whose roster spot is he taking? It’s pretty wild that we gave away Hill, Periera, & Hays for nothing and now are rolling the dice an old, likely broken player. And yes, broken could also probably describe Hays and maybe even Periera to some extent, although Everson at least killed LHP when healthy.

He’s not on the 40 man roster I assume? If so, I’m guessing the Sox DFA Perez to make room for Thorpe and this gives some minor league OF insurance.

Thorpe or Sandlin. We need someone to step up and give us quality starts and I think that will be one of them.

JFC that is embarrassing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that Getz had a great offseason and put this team in a position to compete faster than anyone expected, while also acknowledging that some of his deadline moves were questionable or even bad. Mason Adams may not have a high ceiling, but he was a consensus org top 20 prospect. I don’t get this need to belittle him to defend Getz. Doyle has been terrible for two seasons and is the definition of a project. It’s very fair to question why we felt now was the right time to acquire and try to fix him. The same applies for Castillo. Value wise it looked an L on day one because the Mariners were desperate to move his salary. It’s still too early to fully judge the trade, but right now it looks very bad for us. Hopefully that change, but again, as Getz himself stated it’s hard to fix guys mid season. Giving up Boston Smtih for that luxury remains baffling to me. I’m a Getz supporter in general, but candidly I didn’t love our deadline.

Can’t stop scoring runs. Might need 12 tonight to win.

Imagine if you take his one good start out