Chicago White Sox

Weird how they are doing these moves in such small waves.

Someone needs to trade for Lee.

If he does (which is possible), then he’s going to make the OD roster (and should), but I haven’t seen that reported anywhere so assuming he doesn’t have such a clause for the time being.

Here are my 20 bold predictions: Sox improve by 19 games yet again with and flirt with a playoff spot The positional group finishes the season well above league average in fWAR The pitching staff is still below league average but well above expectations Will Venable wins Manager of the Year in a landslide victory McDougal is up by May 1st and puts up a 2+ win season Hagen Smith is up by Jun 1st and puts up a 1.5+ win season Thorpe is back by Jul 1st and puts up 1+ wins across the 2H Kay, Fedde, & Martin all traded, DFA’d or moved to bullpen by Jul 1st Burke reclaims his 2024 form and leads the pitching staff in fWAR at 3.5 Berroa back by Jun 1st and immediately becomes a dominant bullpen piece Antonacci is up by May 1st and puts up a 2+ win season Teel leads the positional group with an fWAR of ~4 Murakami strikes out like crazy but hits 35 HRs and wins AL ROY Meidroth achieves his Steamer projections of 2.6 fWAR and a 108 wRC+ Acuna demonstrates elite CF defense and surprises with the bat (~90 wRC+) Baldwin secures an everyday role by producing a 115 wRC+ for the season Colson struggles immensely to start the year before a solid 2H rebound Periera goes from platoon bat to everyday OF after mid season Hayes injury Benintendi & Sosa are both traded or DFA’d before the end of the season Kelenic fails to make the OD roster, flounders in AAA, & retires from baseball TLDR - The Sox are going to surprise and have a very nice fucking season!

Yes, I will probably s%*# on the org if they put him on the OD roster unnecessarily, but I definitely hope he works out if/when he makes the team. Honestly, I think a good bold prediction would be that Kelenic is called up May 1st after killing it in Charlotte for a few weeks and his roster spot is opened up by DFA’ing Benintendi.

Because of one bad spring training start?

Why would I complain about Kelenic being awesome?

Why is this something? We‘re talking 23 ABs for Chase and 15 for Tristan. There is literally nothing of significance that could be gained from such a small stat line.

Exactly, I’m all for question moves the front office made and no one has to like Sandlin specifically, but this entire argument about “not willing to eat money with Robert” is semantics when we are money by taking on Hicks.

They didn’t include money in a Robert trade because the rich ass Mets weren’t willing to offer us something of value for it. Should we have eaten a portion of the contract and still got the two pieces we did? The humorous part here is we took those savings and immediately redeployed them, including us buying a pitching prospect by taking a bad contract. Whether you think that was a good use of our limited resources, the reality is we took on money to get a prospect (and one that we like). which is what you guys are claiming we were unwilling to do with Robert.

Um yeah, they turned around immediately redeployed the money they saved by dealing Robert. They could have ate part of Robert’s salary, but preferred to use their general budget to go buy Sandlin and the other free agents they ended up signing. If you’re angry about our the budget Getz has been given (which is totally fair), that’s very much a different claim than saying we were unwilling to eat part of Robert’s contract.

I think he meant will get assigned to full season ball at all not High A vs. Low A

Why do we think they weren’t willing to include money in a Robert trade when they turned around and took on money to get Sandlin?

Probably the one that just pitched for us given it’s a gamethread

Same here. I feel much better about the trade after seeing his velocity.

I’m not sure what you’re struggling with…I just said that Getz deserves some scorn for DFA’ing Romy in the post you quoted.

And Romy Gonzalez wasn’t even traded to the Red Sox. He was DFA’d, which I believe Getz deserves some scorn for, but not because the Red Sox got the better of him. I agree the Booser trade sucked but also not material enough to justify such a stance.

The best part is there is room for both of them. In the near-term, one will be the 2B and the other our primary backup infielder. Maybe that changes when Roch, Bonemer, and others come up, but even then both Chase & Sam can be key role players off the bench. The Dodgers always have a couple depth pieces like them.

You understand we took on $17M to acquire Sandlin right? He’s our 10th ranked prospect right now per multiple publications. And it’s the type of deal that Getz and none of predecessors ever made, so not sure what you are talking about there.

Why are we asking this question halfway through Spring Training? For years Sox fans have been begging the front office to buy prospects by taking on bad money and when we finally do so people forgot how it’s supposed to work and then jump to conclusions (bad ones no less) on the prospect. Anything we get from Hicks is pure upside…Sandlin is who will make or break the deal and we certainly need a lot more time to make any call there.

This is good to see.

Perhaps the most obvious OD starter choice ever, but still fun to watch them tell him. He’s going to be amped the f*** up going against the Brewers.

I think his pure stuff is plenty fine for a SP and he definitely has the repertoire to back it. But he has to get back to his 2024 form for that to happen as his pure stuff regressed quite a bit last year.

Shane Smith and maybe Sean Burke are the only two guys I expect to still be in the rotation by year-end. Otherwise, there is a long list of names who should eventually uproot or force a trade of Fedde, Kay, & Martin.

I don’t see Fedde as someone that the front office brought in with high hopes of rehabbing and eventually trading for something of real value. He’s a dirt cheap placeholder to buy a few weeks or months until the bigger name prospects or the TJS guys are ready for a rotation spot. Obviously they worked with him before and may feel there is a non zero chance to get him back on track, but that’s factored into his $1.5M. My point is once a better, younger option is ready, I don’t see us hesitating cutting bait on Fedde or moving him to long relief. I pray he’s out of the rotation well before July or a lot of things have likely gone wrong IMO.