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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 11, 2011 -> 09:08 AM) I understand, but I at least like to have some shred of reality to it. If a thread is started due to a rumor picked up by an actual journalist, then it doesn't seem so futile. Do they still exist in Chicago and how many are still in captivity?

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 12, 2011 -> 03:26 PM) Is there something wrong with a beer? As long as you don't have more than one or two and aren't drunk then who cares? Mantle admitted to being drunk during games. How eras change. He used "unhancers" and today they use enhancers.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Oct 12, 2011 -> 01:19 PM) This thread makes absolutely zero sense. I think what he really meant to say was "This organization operates as under achievers and that's what they do best".

I wonder if prospects would be a good thing. I'd prefer to have a guy who is already playing.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 11:07 PM) Fair enough...just thought he was being a bit too cynical before the guy's even gone through a spring training (another weakness for the Guillen regime, which was fundamentals/execution/bunting/throwing to the correct bases, etc., it seemed Ozzie never cared at all about winning or losing in ST and it seemed over time to have an effect on how we started in April). I guess he'll (Robin) have to earn our faith over time. Some will take it on faith, and some will be doubting Thomases. Neither stance is empirically right or wrong, obviously. At this point, I give him (Ventura) credit for being loyal to JR and the Sox family and stepping into the breach. You know he'll do the job to the best of his ability, and always remain dignified and professional. And there will always be a second-guessing crowd you will use it as one more nail in KW's (and by extension, JR's) coffin. I wouldn't paint that all on Ozzie. That's an organization, scouting thing. I consider it a KW trademark.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 11:13 PM) Personally, I've liked the teams he's assembled over the last couple years. On paper we should have been bettter. We weren't. That's life. That's baseball. I don't think he's the best GM around, bit I think he understands how to build a competitive mid market team. You have to take some risks. You're right. 2005 didn't grant Williams a lifetime contract. I am bothered by this attitude that he's baseball retarded despite building a World Championship team though. They've been paper tigers since the century. Since Kenny wanted to be demoted, maybe he will quit in a few years. I have hopes Al Davis gives him a call.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 08:19 PM) http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7...-thinking-brawl The inevitable Nolan Ryan article with Ventura being named Sox manager... That will never go away. I still laugh at it. That should be the 2011 Sox poster. Getting b**** slapped.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 11:08 PM) Go Umpires! Both these teams can go to hell. I'm still laughing at this. Great post.

What a choke job. Their offense turned out a very "Walkeresque" performance.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 09:11 PM) Rios and Peavy were definitely risks, but I don't have much of a problem with his other major moves. Who could've predicted that Adam Dunn would post a .569 OPS this year? Most of his other acquisitions (Garcia, Dye, Contreras, AJ, Danks, Floyd, Jenks, Thome) worked out really well. If anything, his aggressiveness was a plus. The one very legit criticism is the farm system under Kenny. THAT'S what's going to harm his legacy. That may be Reinsdorf's doing as well.

QUOTE (SI1020 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 02:42 PM) Hey you may be right about him being thin skinned, but I don't believe he comes close to Ozzie in that department. Or vindictiveness. Have you ever listened to Coop on the SCORE? He was like this even in 2005.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) Is there anything of substance to the 150+ posts I missed? If so, I'll go back and read it. But if it's just quibbling back and forth about Cowley, I'm not interested. It would be nice if we let it all would go away. There's a new manager. How much attention can Cowley get on old news.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 09:48 AM) This. Imagine how the team could have performed this year if everyone was on the same page. Sounds like the players need an excuse for their under achievement. I don't buy into the soap opera having an effect on the players. Its their job to concentrate on baseball.

Now that this is done. I'm interested in who the hitting coach will be.

The organization needed to hire a white guy since they the last 2 were minorities.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 11:18 AM) I think Cooper is a great pitching coach but I absolutely hate his personality based off interviews ive heard him in and would not enjoy having him as manager one bit. Not to say he is the devil cowley says in his column just my opinion over the years about Cooper. He's a whiney wuss.

I don't know why people freak out over this. Imagine if you could see the lists from every team, some names you would find it surprising.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 03:06 PM) Man I really cant believe that people are negative on this move. Most people have assumed that Robin would be a hot coaching option as soon as he decided that he wanted to coach. The fact that the Sox were actually able to convince him to coach is pretty impressive. Im not sure what experience has to do with coaching baseball. This isnt football where you call plays, its baseball and Im pretty sure that I could program a computer to make better decisions than Ozzie. "IF A stats against LHP > B stats against LHP replace B with A." Robin is exactly the opposite of Ozzie, which is exactly what this team needs. This is one of the few hires that Id actually be interested in. It really isnt difficult to be a baseball manager, and its almost impossible to be worse than Ozzie "I make the line ups" Guillen. "Hello." "Hi Robin this is Kenny. How ya doin?" "I'm just chillin' watchin' some TV." "Great, great. Listen.....you wanna manage the White Sox?" "mmmm, I guess so."

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 02:45 PM) wtf W.......... T......... F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 03:39 PM) I think he just finished his last swing at a slow curve ball. *crickets* *off in the distance, a dog barks* We should bump this once in awhile for fun.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 12:58 PM) Apparently, the Red Sox are looking at bringing in a younger manager instead of a big name one. They are going to be going head to head for Dave Martinez and Sandy Alomar Jr with us. Hopefully Kenny doesn't mess around and is interviewing these guys as we speak. I could see Martinez going to Boston and that's who I really want. Any rumors they might go through their organization?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 09:37 AM) You know guys, if we moved CQ, Thornton, and at least one of Danks/Floyd, we might end up with close to a league-average farm system by spring training, what with Martinez/Marinez already here for filler. This would be at least a little exciting. It's hard to say without knowing the quality of instruction in the farm system.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 04:14 PM) Does 2005 feel like an eternity ago to anyone else? Nope. It's still fresh every post season. They kicked ass. This season it was like watching a different organization.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 07:41 AM) No sweeps in the Division Series this year. First time since 2003. 2004-2010: 28 series. 14 sweeps. That's what happens when the Twins don't make the post season.

I wish Kenny would hurry up and hire a new manager so we can put all of this behind us.