Thad Bosley

The next time you go to call anyone else an “angry” anything, take a long look in the mirror first, and then check your own “limited playbook”. Those in glass houses...

That was my only point in response to the original post I responded to - that WINNING White Sox baseball was better than just the game of baseball itself, or certainly the brand we’ve seen this past decade.

Yes, I’m miserable because I prefer winning baseball over non-winning baseball. I’ll probably burn in hell for harboring such ideals. You’re not exactly a bed of rose petals yourself with all of your angry retorts to posters who don’t share your exact point of view on all matters White Sox.

Baseball games are infinitely more fun and Guaranteed Rate Field is a far greater place to spend a summer...blah blah blah...when the Sox are winning 90+ games vs. losing 90+ games. When the team is in a pennant race vs. all of their summer contests being meaningless. When scoreboard watching is more interesting than Sox Math. So on and so forth!

Been there, done that. As in 2005, when we ”caught lightning in a bottle for a year”. It was a lovely experience FOR A YEAR, but 14 years later, and only ONE PLAYOFF WIN since, this team needs to stay the course and build towards a team capable of sustainable winning. Betts of course can help achieve that, but only if he’s here for longer than one year. If that possibility is remote, than the Sox need to take a hard pass in trying to acquire him - especially at the elite prospect cost it would take.

It was a “one off joke”, because that’s not what I typically post here - jokes. Admittedly, many of my posts during my “tenure here” - all ten years of it - have been reacting to the facts surrounding the owner’s current and ongoing record and results on-and-off the field. Even you must admit, said results haven’t been particularly good this past decade. Nevertheless, I’m sorry if my reactions over these past ten years have sounded a bit repetitive, but that’s only because the of the repetitive nature of the results. As soon as those results take a turn for the positive, as will my commentary here. All I want is White Sox winning. It’s as simple as that.

And I can confirm that you overreacted in a bizarre fashion to a very lighthearted joke.

Who’s taking what to a “bizarre level” now?

I have no recollection of ever posting a joke about Jerry Reinsdorf!!!!!

If Betts could get us to the *Promised Land* next year - SECOND PLACE - then by golly, pull out all the stops to get him!!

Rightly or wrongly, Samson’s revelation called into public view Reinsdorf’s commitment to winning, enough that Reinsdorf felt the need to publicly respond to the claim. You combine the unavoidable negative stigma of Samson’s statement with the lingering skepticism of the fan base from what looked like a questionable commitment to winning after the last offseason, and I think we should have an owner and front office at least a tad more inclined to make sure this offseason’s results are far more successful than last year’s.

Thank you, Mr. Samson, for letting loose on that podcast with that little exchange you had with Mr. Reinsdorf several years ago. Whatever the context was with what Reinsdorf purportedly said isn’t important. What is important for Sox fans is the timing of the revelation, right before this very important, upcoming offseason. The fact Reinsdorf felt compelled to put out a public statement in response to all of this should go a long way towards the owner and front office ensuring this offseason doesn’t end up as disappointing as the last one. Things just got more interesting!

Oh, you absolutely went on a “tirade”, if only because you’ve set the definition of a tirade as an opinion shared by someone that doesn’t match your point of view. Talk abour “growing up to do”...

On the contrary. This isn’t the “White Sox Employees Tribute to the Boss” website. It’s a message board (and a good one at that) for White Sox “fans” to comment and debate all things White Sox, which includes matters related to the owner. If you want to go on a tirade about how it matters how he treats his employees, which has nothing to do with the average White Sox fan experience, then it is you who needs to go talk to somebody else.

Pffftttt...”character of the team’s owner”. Oh, Reinsdorf is a character, alright. He showed wondrous character in threatening to move our Sox to Florida unless the state of Illinois agreed to his blackmailing. billionaire-making demands. He’s one helluva stand-up guy for the average White Sox fan.

And a fan who doesn’t work for the man cares about this...why?

Optimism about what lies ahead, and skepticism and negativity about how this front office will see this thing through, are all legitimate emotions at this point in time.

Then you are completely unfamiliar with, or choose to totally ignore, the FO’s long-running record of futility. Why is it so difficult for you to reconcile fan sentiment where it stands today with all of the incompetence demonstrated the past two decades by this FO, the same FO who would have been relieved of their duties a long time ago by anyone of the other 29 clubs. The negativity you see today is a cumulative effect of all of the losing witnessed by our fan base as a result of this front office. The only thing to make that negativity dissipate is to FINALLY start winning again. It’s not enough in the least bit to be content just because the team is in the stage in the rebuild where the FO said it would be right now. That’s just a stage in a rebuild - it’s NOT winning White Sox baseball. Not yet, anyway. Plenty to be optimistic about, no doubt, but still plenty to be skeptical and even negative about; again, anchoring to the FO’s record. It’s up to the FO to change the fan base’s perception of them.

Reinsdorf would certainly be a perfect go-to guy for advice on how to build a 4th place team, after what we’ve witnessed during this past dreadful decade.

Just not happening whilst R-Dorf is still running things. We are getting Kenny & Hahnny the rest of the way while he’s still in charge!

Trading assets that have taken three years to acquire and develop through this rebuild business for a premium player who is very likely to enter free agency would only make the 2021 season resemble the 2019 season. In other words, it would likely return the team to rebuilding mode. Any takers on that scenario?

I agree - as of now, it wouldn’t be retired. But I was referring to Abreu if, in fact, he plays however many seasons he has left in a White Sox uniform. Because if he does remain a White Sox for the remainder of his career, and barring injury, he’ll end up #3 all time in home runs for the White Sox, #5 in RBIs, #5 in doubles, and top ten in hits and runs scored. Reinsdorf retired Baines’ number in 1989 for much less than that.

Not to mention, but you build future trade value with Zach if he becomes passable at first base.

How many games at DH for Jose in this scenario? Seems like we'd be running him out to first base 150+ times.

I suspect the Sox will decide on keeping their young, cost-controlled, batting champion shortstop for a little while.