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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:52 PM) sounds like its inconclusive if its even him? http://militarytimes.com/blogs/battle-ratt...-troops-or-not/ Nope, he apologized. It's too late though, and we aren't buying it. I mean, the guy says he "let his words get the best of him". Really? Producing a song takes a long time, I would presume. He put the lyrics on paper, he sang them time and time again, they were surely reviewed by agents and producers and all kinds of things. This wasn't just some spontaneous outburst that looked really embarassing after the fact. This had far more time for review than some retarded meltdown like that of, say, Michael Richards or such.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:41 PM) OMG! A local school administrator did something silly involving the American Flag! All Liberals clearly support treason. That's pretty hyperbolic on your part. And think what you want, but I don't want that sort of dweeb having any sort of influence on my children.

Anyone hear about this Soulja Boi controversy? I'm not even mad about this. I thought he was an annoying, tacky rapper and I really find his act of career suicide to be refreshing. f*** the troops? Uh, ok, that'll be the end of you! If you have doubts, just check out his facebook page. Dude's getting reamed. Sucker.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:30 PM) FWIW Cinco de Mayo is primarily celebrated in the US and I think one province in Mexico. Which makes the whole thing even more idiotic.

Here's another one that got a bunch of attention. What a p**** that Ed Parraz is. Only after all of this idiocy did he decide that maybe they should focus on dealing with the Mexicans who were getting pissed off about Cody's flag? What a wimp.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) As far as him not responding, I'm doubtful that this will go anywhere outside of the ultra-conservative blogosphere, so why bother getting dragged into it? There's no way an administrator at a small lib arts college who suggested adding international flags is going to receive anything but hyperbolic reactions from that arena. I like the ultra-conservative blogosphere. How about this oldie? California high school sends students home on Cinco de Mayo for wearing American flag t-shirts that were "incendiary". The American flag, incendiary? For real? And they were apparently told that they could wear the shirts on other days but not on that day, since that day is for the Mexicans. It might be their day, but it's our damn house!

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) The quote is not a direct quote of what he said And we don't have a direct quote because he didn't bother to respond. So, bummer, I guess.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:00 PM) ok? Do you at least recognize that those were not direct quotes from Dr. Pastoor? Uh, yeah, sure. At the same time, Pastoor did not respond to requests for comment (at least not that I've seen). So we can't really have his side of the story. Might be interesting to hear, actually.

Like all things between you and me, we're never going to agree. I've said my piece and continue to hold those views, so I'm done.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 02:43 PM) It's not appeasement...there's no threat. People who died would be better represented by their own flag rather than pretending they're American. It's called being thoughtful. Difficult concept. Once again, in that particular quote, he comes off like a scared administrator trying to suck up to foreign students by making sure no offensive display of patriotism could take place. He's not talking about the individual flags, he's worrying what the Muslims might think of a crapload of American flags being displayed on campus. That's appeasement, not thoughtfulness.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 02:41 PM) The university wants to attract foreign students? I dunno. And that seems pretty pathetic. Shunning patriots to appeal to foreigners. Cowardly. It's mostly that quote that gets to me. It would have been totally different if he had simply suggested putting up Israeli flags for dead Israelis and so forth. I probably never would have mentioned this. But then he tries to go on this PC kick, getting all worried about what the foreigners might think. That's really stupid. I'm not really sure how close the event came to being canceled. I think it's ridiculous that they would even threaten that at all, but different articles say different things so I'm not sure what really happened. But that doesn't excuse the attempt at political correctness found in that quote which is something I despise.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) Appeasement of what? I think you're misunderstanding his view here. It's not that people would be offended by the presence of the American flag. It's going to be all over the place this weekend and probably a few weeks afterwards. There were numerous other events planned on campus without issue that will presumably feature a lot of pro-America patriotism. His point is that if you're going to commemorate the individual victims of 9/11, don't ignore who these people actually were. Representing them with an American flag just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. He's not even talking about individual victims in that point. He's talking about what Chinese and Muslim students would think of a display of American flags. And frankly, I just don't see why we're supposed to give a s*** about that.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 02:26 PM) And they murdered 247 non-Americans whose lives are worth no less than the Americans killed. No one was saying don't commemorate Americans or put out the American flag, just that if you're going to put out flags for every individual, at least get their nationality right. Then we should put out 2,730 flags. Let the Israelis and the Brits fly their flags for their victims on their turf. Regardless, this wasn't an attack on either of those countries or any country other than America. So I don't know why we need to go about acting like this was an attack on the world because some other nationalities perished. We were attacked and all we need is American flags.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 02:20 PM) He wasn't appeasing anyone and there's absolutely zero "expense" to Americans. Snowe is being a drama queen. Admin: Hey, since a bunch of those victims were from different countries, it would be a good idea to have them represented by their own flag, rather than American flags, which is inaccurate. Consider how they might feel. We can supply the flags. Snowe: OMG LIBERAL POLITICALLY CORRECT FASCISTS OPPRESSING ME That is appeasement. Why exactly are we obligated to care how those people feel about American flags? They're visitors here. They can suck it up or leave. Pastoor is just trying to kiss ass. As if being nice to them and bowing to all of their perceived sensitivities will make them like us more or something. You call it what you want. I'll call it appeasement.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 02:05 PM) The dismissal of the lives of non-Americans as "collateral" is pretty insulting, too. Call it what you want. But al-Qaeda didn't set out that day saying, "hey, we're gonna go murder a Bermudan today!" They set out to murder Americans. And that's what they did. So screw Robert Pastoor and screw these Obama officials who are putting out crap about 9/11 not being just about us. It was about us.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) You'd probably think it odd if your death was commemorated by the flag of that other country, wouldn't you? RIP God Loves the Infantry I don't know why on Earth they'd put my name next to that flag, but hey, it's their country. So I don't really care. My American family and friends would commemorate my life and death according to my wishes, with American flags, so that'd be satisfactory. He's a coward for trying so pathetically hard to appease foreign visitors at the expense of patriotic Americans. His comment that I've already harped on a few times shows that he's just worried about offending a few people who are different.

Also, multiculturalism is stupid.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) Your article says there were no such complaints. A single administrator, the VP of Student Life, was asking them to add the foreign flags. There was no threat of the event being canceled at all. Sarah Snow sounds like a giant drama queen. http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/content....d.html?nav=5002 That's the thing. There don't seem to be complaints from the foreigners. Every time there's an incident like this, it doesn't seem like the foreigners complain. It just seems like wimpy, leftist administrators conjure up such fears in order to justify their anti-American manuevers. They insist on appeasing all these foreign groups, but don't realize that the foreigners usually have more sense than they do and appear to realize that Americans can behave as patriotically as they'd like. The fact that the Saudis and Chinese in this case aren't complaining does not excuse the cowardice of Robert Pastoor. Gutless individuals like him do not deserve to be in education.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 01:27 PM) If the flags are meant to represent the individual victims, wouldn't it make sense to represent them with a flag of their own nationality? I mean, just from a respect for the actual victims perspective that seems like it should be non-controversial to me. If you were killed in the 7-7-05 attacks in London, wouldn't you rather be remembered with an American flag instead of the union jack? To your first question, no. A Bermudan and a Salvadorean may have died on 9/11, but this wasn't an attack on them. They were just collateral. This was an attack on America. And as a result, I would expect people to commemorate the day with American flags. Besides, Ms. Snowe didn't say anything about individual victims. If I die in a terrorist attack on civilians of another country, I hope they'd repatriate my remains and bury me with full military honors. But I wouldn't expect citizens of that country to go and wave an American flag along with a bunch of their own flags later on down the road just because I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was an attack on their country and their people, and they can commemorate the anniversary with solemn dedications to their nation. Additionally, while they did sort of insist that the flags of each country that suffered casualties be displayed, Robert Pastoor did at one point drop that infuriating line about respecting the feelings of Muslim and Chinese students. And I absolutely resent this politically correct idea that the American flag should be taboo lest we offend some of our guests. If you come to America to further your education, you don't get to be offended by us loving our country. If you do that, I don't want you here.

Marietta College in Ohio threatens to ban 9/11 commemoration unless the flags of other nations are included. Student Life director Robert Pastoor says we must consider the feelings of Chinese and Muslim students towards such displays. This is sickening. I don't care if foreigners want to come and study at our universities. I don't blame them, we have some of the greatest universities on Earth. But they don't get to come here and then complain when we practice our customs as usual and show love for our country. If they don't like that, they can go right the f*** home. I love the American flag with all my heart. But I'm not gonna go to Saudi Arabia or China and complain when their flags are shown instead of ours. That'd be idiotic. When in Rome, do as the Romans. When in America, do as the Americans. Why some people have a hard time understanding this is beyond me. Especially these idiots who go around charading as educators. And Robert Pastoor is so damn concerned with the feelings of the Chinese and Muslims here, but where is his concern for the feelings of patriotic Americans who might be studying on his campus? This kind of s*** is becoming so widespread these days. Why can't people like that realize that the freedom of speech (which certain Americans like Ms. Snowe are trying to practice) trumps the right of other people to not be offended? I don't recall that latter right being in the Constitution. I won't go into the politics I'm certain Mr. Pastoor is influenced by, since a bunch of people will just throw hissy fits about it. But it should be pretty obvious.

I hate Thome so much.

De Aza is my favorite White Sock this season, and that's including Paul Konerko.

I'll still watch because I've been waiting for this all afternoon, but no Dayan really pisses me off. I can't wait for Ozzie to head to the unemployment line, that moron. At least I get to watch Flowers and De Aza. Oh, and Peavy. I hope there's very little that we have left to see of this jerk.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 6, 2011 -> 04:23 PM) But when it is Democrats involved, it is always the intention that matters, the nuance, the background. They were trying to get rid of that pesky second amendment by ginning up stats to help their case, so if they broke a few laws, got a few people killed along the way, well, it was for the greater good. They meant well. Same goes for civility. , but then professional crook, Maxine Waters, told the Tea Party to go to Hell, and professional dips***, Joe Biden, called the Tea Party terrorists and told union members that they are the only ones keeping the barbarians at the gates. And then there was Jimmy Hoffa ordering his goon subordinates to take those Tea Party "sons-of-b****es" out. Obama, of course, was proud of him. "Civility" is just a bulls*** catchphrase that leftist morons use to censor the opposition. It doesn't apply to them nor was it ever intended to. The only people who need to behave in a civil manner are us evil, racist rightwingers. Also, on a personal note, I love when idiots like Jimmy Hoffa talk about war, or some goof like Ted Rall goes and tells Dylan Ratigan that it's time for a violent revolution against the right in this country. These clowns are barking up the wrong f***ing tree.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Sep 3, 2011 -> 07:54 PM) The silence from the port side with respect to the fast and furious boondoggle is deafening. The media is silent as are all the Obama apologists. f***ing hilarious. Get a federal killed and nothing happens. Oh wait that's right, you get a promotion to Washington so they shut you up. Unbelievable. I love hope and change. The only that thing that changed was the color of the President. People need to start going to prison for this one.