Bananarchy

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 10:31 PM) Well we had a pretty busy offseason last season. How did that work out. We need to build this the right way. Wasting draft picks and playing the reload game every year is going to hamstring this organization into a perennial 75-83 win organization. I'm not sure how many more playoff wins the Royals, Astros, and Cubs need before this board and the Sox organization figure out the formula.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 08:27 PM) I'll agree with Tex. This idea of "die-hard" fans looking down their noses at or not embracing the importance of the casual/bandwagon fans is something the White Sox simply can't afford to overlook. Sure, there's the tried and true 80/20 rule....that 80% of the revenues (in terms of season tickets/attendance) comes from the same 20% of your fan base. Definitely, the White Sox have their work cut out for them retaining those season ticket holders (especially the ones who dropped out and then bought back in this past off-season) but also doing whatever they can to get fans out to sample the product with the likelihood of basically every Cubs' game next year being a sellout before the season even starts. That means there will be a lot of casual fans who are shut out of the Cubs' ticket market (availability/expense) and the White Sox will have an opportunity to take advantage if they play their cards right in terms of marketing approach. God knows how many casual/bandwagon fans were driven away by WSI back in the day. Even here at SoxTalk, we can be pretty tough on newcomers/younger fans...with the internet, sometimes we just don't realize how discouraging it is when you're trying to support your favorite team or simply expressing an interest or asking a question and you get attacked for it. Granted, MOST message boards posters have pretty thick skins, but certainly not all (especially younger fans/teenagers). Great post, but it's too bad this board ridicules people for supporting the Cubs for whatever reason. In reality, we're better off encouraging baseball discussion instead of calling people "f***ing idiots" for being happy for the Cubs. For example: QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 9, 2015 -> 10:56 PM) I'm going to come out and say it, but if you claim to be a true Sox fan and are cheering for the Cubs this postseason then you are a f***ing idiot. Our beloved franchise has always been the ugly step-child of the Chicago sports scene and a Cubs World Series victory would make us even more irreverent. Go ahead and come up with some lame excuse on why it's ok to cheer for them, but you are literally rooting against the well-being of your own franchise. There is no good that comes to the Sox from the Cubs winning the World Series, none whatsoever. It's absolutely disgusting how many "Sox fans" I know are jumping on this bandwagon and it's even worse how many members on this site, a forum that is home to some of the most die-hard Sox fans in the world, are pro-Cubs right now. Not only is the post complete garbage (There is enough support from both sides of town to support two successful teams), it's not a good look for the White Sox fanbase and it's not a good look for this board. A number of us love the game and love the White Sox and don't need to justify who we support and what we watch otherwise. I'm here to discuss the White Sox (no matter how abysmal they look) and the rest of baseball with people from similar upbringings and interests. We should not ever question the White Sox fandom of a person because we are not to judge.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) I'm not rooting for the Cubs, but man the hate in the air in this thread is thick, I can barely see. It got better a little further in, honestly. Overall, it's electric baseball, regardless.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 07:12 PM) What's Matt Harvey's availability, assuming the Mets win tonight? I would assume he's fine. He's an idiot, but he's fine. I just don't like innings limits.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 07:08 PM) Anything that gets kids to sit still for 30 minutes is golden The thing is, it has the Pixar-type quality where it's really geared for adults even though it's clearly a bunch of puppets.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 07:06 PM) that may be the worst 100 win team I've ever seen. Probably not that close either Agreed. That was just an awful display.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 07:06 PM) Is that Muppets show really good? It's not bad. If you like the Muppets, it's good. I'm just happy they're back in the public eye since like 2011

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 07:04 PM) The bears are bigger then the cubs regardless. Radio was dominated about bears winning yesterday rather then the cubs. Football is king. I would argue Bears followed by Blackhawks/Cubs

Seeing as the lovable heartbreakers won and at least dispatched of the dreadful Cardinals, I'm hoping for real baseball on my television next round.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) Breaking news on abc Oh. Thank God I live in Austin. Breaking news: Longhorn Mascot has Leukemia

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:57 PM) Ugh Muppets gonna be delayed SHOOT. I'm taping it. When are they putting it on?

Nicely done. Now that stupid song.

I can't imagine being a fan at Wrigley for the opponent in this situation.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:50 PM) We can't afford any more trades that don't work. Every trade has to be in our benefit if we're expecting to compete anytime soon. Or we just need to be bad long enough and draft well. Unfortunately we don't do that for position players.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:47 PM) Unfortunately, this is probably the first of many Cubs playoff celebrations we'll see in the next five seasons or so. Take the fans out of it, and the Cubs have done it the right way so far.

QUOTE (Soxfan90 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:46 PM) Yeah, the reality of the situation is the Cubs are damn good. If they get past the Cards I think they will go to the World Series this year. Will they win it, though? We shall see. I'd take the Astros, Royals, or Jays over the Cubs.

QUOTE (Soxfan90 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:45 PM) 3 outs away until the Cards season is over, thank God. Tired of hearing about them. Honestly, this is such a huge positive.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:43 PM) They faded so hard down the stretch. They should be better next year. This is a case where I think a managerial change is critical

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:41 PM) For our organization, he was a Top 10. They probably thought they knew better than everyone else. He was 3 or 2 in the Detroit organization, but that probably should have been our first clue.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:38 PM) If I'm Hahn I'm on the phone with St Louis as soon as possible, this is an embarrassing series lost for the Cardinals. I feel ashamed watching St Louis, I couldnt imagine how their management feels. How is their minor league system? They could use Q They always have some prospect with a cliche name who will drive in 80 runs and walk a bunch of times

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) Cubs have not impressed me that much so far. Bullpen is s***. Bring on the mets. What's wrong with Matt Harvey, by the way?

Kris Bryant just gets it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:27 PM) Was he really that highly touted? By White Sox standards, absolutely.

The Cardinals don't even look like they're trying.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 06:24 PM) Who needs Schwarber when the Sox have Avi Garcia? The Garcia thing is just such a disappointment. Finally get a touted guy and he has no power.