Flash Tizzle

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 02:26 PM) Would tavares be a good fantsy player No, now never ask again.

Good lord, Buehrle.

Let's put out a hypothetical situation -- if someone were to pay an individual with the MLB TV premium service $70 or so to share their username/password, would someone be willing to take the offer? PM me with the answer to this scenario.

Actually, I said anything besides those positions (2B,SS,3B) because I'm not flexible I'll be willing to go any OF position -- doesn't seem to be many people up for that.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 01:32 AM) Flash I'm a little suprised you rate Fabio Castro so highly. Can you give me some thoughts on why that's the case, and why you prefer him over Gavin Floyd? Even though his minor league statistics are hardly eye-popping, I'd prefer him over Floyd for several reasons: lefthanded arm with good fastball, absence of injuries, deceptive delivery. Southpaws are obviously a preference within the division considering the various lefthanded power hitters. What you have with Floyd is someone drafted high who gradually lost his fastball and his confidence. With Castro, perhaps you have a top flight starter. If not, you have one hell of a reliever.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 01:11 AM) Maybe in 2009 or 10. Santana will be gone around 2009 so Liriano will fit in just right. To address your other point about Andrew Miller, Adam Miller, or Garza not proving anything yet in the majors, you're correct. However, just look at their most recent work (aside from Andrew) compared to Gonzalez and Danks. I'm too lazy to physically copy/paste, so here are the links: http://thebaseballcube.com/players/D/John-Danks.shtml http://thebaseballcube.com/players/G/Giovany-Gonzalez.shtml to http://thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Adam-Miller-2.shtml http://thebaseballcube.com/players/G/Matt-Garza.shtml --and Andrew Miller wasn't promoted to the Tigers one year out of college because he was terrible. His pure stuff speaks for itself. Yeah, and I know Danks has shown the ability to adapt -- as well as pitch well in a hitters league -- but they're the only statistics available. Even if were to reasonably expect an improvement in Charlotte, would they compare to numbers produced by Adam Miller or Garza? This is why I continually mention, often under criticism, the White Sox need a legitimate front line starter to emerge within the next few years if we want any hope of competing. This division is literally stacked which pitching talent. Whether I'm proven wrong and Danks or Gonzalez develop into aces I don't know. It just needs to be done, impossible or not.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 12:54 AM) Because those 3 guys I put in bold are so proven. And Liriano might never be the same again. Which is why I said believe. And you know damn well Liriano will return and dominate.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 11:32 PM) I think Williams is a decent GM, but from my persepctive he performed poorly this offseason. The OF is a disaster and the team traded two starting pitchers and is weaker than 2006. In retrospect, I wish Buehrle had been dealt instead of Garcia, and I wish McCarthy were still on the team. I know KW is trying to make sure the Sox don't have to bid for FA pitching, but that seems quixotic to me. Pitching prospects so rarely pan out, I don't think you can escape the need for FA pitching. Even Beane signed a FA pitcher last season. I guess I've transitioned to the "win now" philosophy. Personally, I don't object to either trading Garcia or McCarthy -- I just wish the packages we received would have been better. If Floyd were replaced by Fabio Castro and Massett/Rasner for Hurley I would have been estatic. With said players, we would have had in our possession two more top of the rotation options available to compete in forthcoming seasons. Even if one suggests obtaining Castro wasn't feasible (which I doubt), McCarthy shouldn't have been delt unless a return package had significantly more upside. I just don't like the idea of Danks being considered a lateral move by many around here. Massett obviously may turn into a reliable bullpen arm, but for McCarthy -- I'd rather have more starting pitching. This trade, whether people are willing to admit it, may ultimately bury Williams in the forthcoming seasons if the results heavily favor Texas. Considering how trading McCarthy wasn't necessary, and Williams relied upon his scouts and personal observations to select a package of Danks/Massett/Rasner, the success of this trade should be vital in determining his future with this organization. That's about the definition of a franchise changing move. You have to ask yourself this, as well -- if we're not intent on persuing FA pitchers, does a future rotation of Danks/Gonzalez/Broadway/Haegar/Floyd/Sisco/whomever compete with those within our division? How will a future 1-2 punch of Danks/Gonzalez match up against Sabathia/miller, Miller/Verlander or Liriano/Garza? As of now, I don't believe very well.

In DeLuca's article it was mentioned that McCarthy constantly experienced negativity between himself and the coaching staff. Maybe this was what he meant. Maybe not. If there was something out of the professional realm, it'll come out eventually. I just feel Williams would be foolish to initiate a trade because of this, which only brings more attention to the issue. Also featured in DeLuca's article was a quote where Williams said, "you don't have the information I have," in response to dealing McCarthy. He'd be an idiot to say something like that if McCarthy had ammunition to blow him away.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 10:14 PM) It probably is a preposterous rumor, but McCarthy's recent comments on his relationship with KW did sort of imply that this rumor could actually be true. It did? I've known about this rumor before, and after reading the Sun-Times article by Chris DeLuca (which you're probably referencing) I didnt' come away with anything. If it were true, it would have been leaked by now. Whether by an anonymous source within the White Sox or Texas Rangers.

QUOTE(fathom @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 09:38 PM) If we're going to be anywhere near as bad as this projection believes, I hope we struggle early, which will force KW to get something in return for Buehrle at the deadline. I know this won't surprise many people, but I agree with you. I believe the worst possible position we can be in around the ASB is ~10 games back of the division and ~7 behind the wild card. You figure at such a point, several starters and perhaps positional players are struggling. The argument will be, for keeping the team entact, "they can always rebound, as past seasons have proven (cite numbers);" or "here's another white flag trade!" If they're obviously mediocre in the 1st half, and all we have is optimism, then we're better off trading Buehrle. If we can't get a good deal in return (which I question with Williams), then merely keep him and receive the draft pick.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 09:24 PM) I'd like to buy some smack from whoever came up with that projection. I'm not confident about our chances of reaches the playoffs, but suggesting we're the second worst team in the American league -- even behind Seattle and Baltimore -- is a little bit ridiculous.

I don't know why Santo=dorf didn't post anything about it here, but Baseball Prospectus released their projected standings for 2007: Yankees 93-69 Red Sox 93-69 Blue Jays 80-82 Devil Rays 77-85 Orioles 74-88 Twins 91-71 Indians 89-73 Tigers 85-77 White Sox 72-90 Royals 67-95 Angels 87-75 Athletics 81-81 Rangers 80-82 Mariners 73-89 NL East Philadelphia 87-75 New York 85-77 Atlanta 81-81 Florida 79-83 Washington 66-96 Central Chicago 85-77 Milwaukee 84-78 St.Louis 81-81 Houston 79-83 Pittsburgh 77-85 Cincinnati 71-91 West Arizona 88-74 San Diego 86-76 Los Angeles 80-82 Colorado 80-82 San Francisco 78-84 Doesn't have much to do with this thread, but might as well stick it here since most members are viewing this topic. Looks like we're expected to post the fourth worst record in the majors next season. OMG, we'll finally get a Top 10 pick in the amateur draft according to BP!!!!11 Although we all know once the Sox get a Top 5 pick, whenever that day arrives, the draft will be universally panned as one of the worst in recent memory.

Fathom jokingly mentioned it, but does anyone believe that Cooper speeding up Floyd's tempo may have led him to twist his ankle? I don't know for sure, obviously, but if it is that's something Floyd better work around.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 06:24 PM) Does anyone think KW has put his neck on the line with a Gavin Floyd? Its almost universally thought in baseball that this guy really can't be considered a top prospect, and KW sees him almost as elite. The future success or failure of Gavin Floyd won't impact Williams' future. People already have a built in excuse if he fails of, "oh, well, you couldn't have expected much in return for Garcia, anways." Despite the fact Ken Rosenthal printed quotes from Philadelphia executives who were surprised our asking price was so low..... Anyways -- What I feel is Floyd/Gonzalez are no worse than the two compensation draft picks we'd receive for Garcia. Atleast under the current condiditons of the CBA. What should weigh heavily in determining Williams' future, as well as the scouts advising him, is how the McCarthy deal shapes out. Couple the result of the aforementioned trade with our record these upcoming seasons, and you will probably have a good idea of where Williams stands. Until clear conclusions are drawn, this season -- complete failure or not -- should not influence in his job security. It may tighten the proverbial noose, but not completely kill him.

QUOTE(fathom @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 08:39 AM) but I wouldn't be surprised if Masset makes a strong run. He has the power arm which is going to impress our organization. There's so much about him I don't know. Did he develop a good fastball/slider upon filling out his frame? Or was it similar to other failed starters who put everything they have into a pitch when working in a relief role? How good is his stuff, really? If he's capable of sustaining a good fastball for 6/7 innings, and what we're hearing about him is true, it'd definiely be an interesting decision for management. Obviously, he couldn't be pushed right into the 5th starters role; but perhaps for the future. Maybe he's our version of Jeremy Bonderman....

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 08:38 AM) Actually I thought it was supposed to be the other way around. I know people believe that, but what you typically see in Spring Training is pitchers working themselves up to the season. Maybe trying out a certain pitch or featuring a large percentage of fastballs. Those fighting for a job, such as Floyd/Haeger/etc. are the one's who need to get on it quickly.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 08:32 AM) Nope. Floyd sprained his ankle in the first inning, after walking Sweeney and giving up an rbi double to PK. So all-in-all, a pretty good start. Coop must not have sprinkled his magic fairy dust on him yet. Looking at the Reifert blog, our hitters were kicking the crap out of the pitching. Which is probably what you would expect this early in Spring training.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 08:27 AM) i hope it wasnt gavin floyd he hit it off of. I heard on the Score earlier Floyd twisted his ankle on the mound, but was still scheduled to pitch Friday. Who knows whether he's the one who surrendered a bomb to Fields.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 25, 2007 -> 11:18 PM) I agree. I just saw it and thought it was good, but not quite the classic. Exactly how I feel. It was good, but as bmags and I went back and forth about, there were several items within the film I disliked.

QUOTE(CrimsonWeltall @ Feb 25, 2007 -> 11:13 PM) jack handing out an award that he's partially nominated for? departed is gonna win He's been presenting the best picture winner for quite some time. I honestly expected Letters from Iwo Jima to iwn.

WOW! Holy s***, didn't see that coming.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Feb 25, 2007 -> 11:05 PM) Wow...no award for O'Toole! Just kill him now. Atleast you know the other actors (especially DiCaprio) have the ability to be nominated again. HERE WE GO -- BEST DIRECTOR!

You could cut steel with the Reese Witherspoon's jaw.

HA, nice job Dreamgirls. Three nominations out of five for the best-stong category...and you lose.