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No draft pick is a plus. But he certainly has his negatives. I'd be fine with a 5 year $100+

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 11:32 AM) I'd be hesitant to trade with Atlanta. They've been getting everybody in every trade. Hart joined that org and quickly improved it across the board in several trades. It seems like they might have even taken Friedman for one at the deadline. I love what he's doing there. I do agree with the ATL hesitancy.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) Why do you keep suggesting signing players with Qualifying Offers attached? You are going to be disappointed... I'm not going to be disappointed because I'm just throwing ideas out. This team at the same time needs to get a lot better and not just three wins better.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 10:27 AM) I'd love Andrelton Simmons, but the Braves are asking for one of Matz, deGrom, Thor, and Harvey. I'd figure the Braves would at least ask for Rodon and Anderson and that is way to steep of a price. Or starting with Quintana.

I'm not sure how much value EJ has. Quintana has a ton. I could see a Q trade for some pieces and signing a guy like Zimmerman to smack behind Sale. Not likely but I could see a scenario like that. I'd hate to see Q traded. It's just hard to imagine keeping him and still adding an impact bat without signing one. I also think Desmond could be a perfect rebuild value option. Would allow us the time for Anderson without rushing.

Here's a little tidbit on us. All of it we already know. http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/jason-h...meetings-111115 LOTS TO DO ON THE SOUTH SIDE The White Sox continually draw trade interest in their starting pitchers, and some even prefer lefty Jose Quintana to Chris Sale, given the lower acquisition cost and more traditional body type and delivery, sources say. Quintana, 26, is a bargain at $18.15 million over the next three seasons, and his contract also includes $10.5 million options for both 2019 and ’20. The White Sox would need to be overwhelmed to move him, but considering their needs at multiple positions, they cannot rule it out. Third base, second, shortstop, catcher and the corner-outfield spots all are potential areas of upgrade for the White Sox — and yes, that means first baseman Jose Abreu and center fielder Adam Eaton are the only regulars with whom the Sox seem comfortable. The White Sox’s former shortstop, free agent Alexei Ramirez, attended the GM meetings on Wednesday, presumably to meet with clubs. Ramirez, according to one source, badly wants to rejoin the Sox, who declined his $10 million option. GM Rick Hahn has said he will not close the door on Ramirez’s possible return.

I am curious if we'll make a run at a guy like Zimmerman or Maeda. We were talking to shark about a big contract so I'm wondering if they'll make a play for one of the starters. Price and Grienke will be way too much. I wonder about Zimmerman and Maeda who'll be posted later this month.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 02:02 AM) When you're going to be a free agent but traded during the season the team acquiring the player midseason is not eligible to receive a pick like Cespedes, Zobrist and Cueto . To be entitled to compensation, a team must have a departing free agent on its roster for the entirety of the season. Ok I remember that now. Makes sense, thus why our return value had to be greater than the comp pick for Shark.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 01:02 AM) Cespedes doesn't require a pick. No? Why not?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 11:28 PM) I'd be stunned if they gave up a top 30 pick. I'll say Alexei returns for 2 years $13 million. There's only a few I'd give it up for. Heyward, Upton, Cespedes....maybe and a small maybe with Wieters.

I'm making this now for my personal record. Just curious on one free agent or trade target you think we'll get. My one prediction is 3B David Freese 3 years $30 million

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 07:58 PM) CSN reporter just said that Hoyer and Epstein are probably going to sit down around Thanksgiving and devise a plan for the off season, and that they were doing a lot of information gathering right now. Sound familiar? This is what teams do and what these meetings are for. Feeling everyone out right now. Preparing for the winter meetings in what 5 weeks?

Bruce's tweets are just awful...like his reporting.

With our Cuban ties it's no wonder. I'd imagine they'd be televised.

QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 12:05 PM) Sure seems like Levine spinning what Hahn said to fit his agenda for the story. Agreed. This team does need a lot of work though that's why I expect an aggressive off-season.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 11:44 AM) I totally get your reasoning here. You outline why I reneged on what I was offering initially. I literally threw that together in a waiting room with only 3G as service when I was bored. Then you got SouthSideSale and Chilihead freaking out about a mistake that I already acknowledged. My post created two pages of discussion though... I said it was good except the contract. I read your whole post it was a great idea with all of the trades. I wasn't freaking out lol just had a couple small issues. That's also why it was a good post because it created two pages of discussion (aside from my nonsense which I acknowledged).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 11:57 AM) He looked awful vs. the White Sox last season. Now tosses his wife around. Not worth the trouble. Grabbed her by the throat to be specific. No thanks

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 11:41 AM) Read the last two pages of this thread. You don't know what insists means. It's weak that you're trying to make it personal. Sorry your ideas are far-fetched, over-repeated and irrelevant to reality. I'm not making it personal because I don't even know you Not all of my ideas are far-fetched. That's the only one. Go look at my mock offseason. It's not crazy. A few aggressive moves made. I don't have us signing $100 million free agents.

I get told let it go with Arenado but rabbit insists on giving $16 million to a guy who has pitched 4 meaningless September games last season. Like the above poster said, 4 games 6 years. Lol

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 10:36 AM) There's an argument to be made that it can affect a guys swing for a couple months afterwards, sure. But to think that there is any long term affect is stupid. Ortiz, Prince, Cano, Cespedes, Cespedes...the last 5 winners before Frazier. Would you pass on any of those guys? I didn't mean for good just second halves. I should of specified my bad.

Doesn't the home run derby tend to mess up guys in the second half? Edit

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 12:04 AM) Quintana was pretty good, apparently. Also, Kevin Kiermaier and Hanley Ramirez... jfc Lol and there's a thread on a Hanely trade

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 11:56 PM) I have no problem with anyone saying they're not buying Rich Hill at that price. I just think it's lazy when someone just says "he blows." Honestly, I didn't even realize his health issues were that serious so I'll take what I said down a notch. Regardless, I think he's a worthy gamble. This guy will be getting guys out next year. If not in the rotation, get him in the pen. Big upside as a starter or reliever. He's worth the gamble but not at 2 years $16 million

Can't hurt but he can't stick with anyone. He's floating from AAA team to AAA team.

Thanks Minnesota! Assholes. Sale needs to pitch better against them